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S/S2 Addendum: Scot's Guide To Autobuying

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#26 koobe

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 05:58 PM

wow~~~That surprises me!!! may i ask you more question? i want to know how long do u AB every day??? when it's midnight in Neopet, does it often restock in shops???
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I generally AB while I sleep using the scheduler and thats always changing, so lets say like 5 hours. Beginning around 7am NST. The spooky shop is filled with heaps of junk so it does take some time for a good item to appear.

#27 Trixic

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 02:24 AM

Thanks for this useful guide, Scot. + rep

Question: How dangerous is stamps?

#28 koobe

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 04:37 AM

Question: How dangerous is stamps?


Dangerous considering the profit you can make if you AB a good one. I wouldn't risk it on a account you don't want to lose.

#29 policepro

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 06:14 AM

well i ran the Ab for many hours with lists
and always got nothing
but i always entered the "normal shops"
how come? maybe it depends on luck......


I have the same problem. I never got anything good with a list but I have got a nice amount of items using the random shop feature.

I think it might be luck, but I'm not sure.

#30 sealonfire

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 08:08 AM

well i ran the Ab for many hours with lists
and always got nothing
but i always entered the "normal shops"
how come? maybe it depends on luck......



It depends on which shop you AB with. Some shops restock slower than others.

If you're losing out to other people though, it may be a problem of latency. In that case, set your profit margin lower (like 2500) so that you'll get something every restock.

#31 zandra

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 11:07 AM

i am using ocr+prehaggle at 0.6 but my buytimes are always 2xxx ms. will lowering the ocr+prehaggle lower the buytimes?

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 11:12 AM

i am using ocr+prehaggle at 0.6 but my buytimes are always 2xxx ms. will lowering the ocr+prehaggle lower the buytimes?


yes

#33 rizler

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 11:37 AM

very nice the buy times section and how to choose what shop to AB in during different times of days helped the most ^_^
as always i find all charts confusing xD

#34 zandra

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 12:01 AM

yes


just dont feel very safe if i lower it. which factor will affect icing more. ocr+prehaggle delay or the buytime itself?

#35 sealonfire

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 08:30 AM

<br />i am using ocr+prehaggle at 0.6 but my buytimes are always 2xxx ms. will lowering the ocr+prehaggle lower the buytimes?<br />

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I think the problem lies with your latency more? My ocr + prehaggle is slightly higher than yours and my buytimes are 18XX-20XX ms. And my ping is usually ~200. IMO adjusting ocr + prehaggle won't affect much for your case.

#36 Scot

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 08:57 AM

just dont feel very safe if i lower it. which factor will affect icing more. ocr+prehaggle delay or the buytime itself?


Well then you have to live with what you have because you can't expect to get different results by doing the same thing over and over.

I mean it doesn't have to be a dramatic gradual change. -50 ms a week until you are down to 1500ms would be a more subtle approach.

#37 holaCarlos

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:38 AM

So, what do you recommend when it comes to the Haggle algorithm settings?
I see you've put it as "Smart" and 0.1% in your screenshot, but will changing that make any drastic differences?

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:42 AM

So, what do you recommend when it comes to the Haggle algorithm settings?
I see you've put it as "Smart" and 0.1% in your screenshot, but will changing that make any drastic differences?


What reason would you have to change it to anything else?

#39 holaCarlos

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 10:47 AM

What reason would you have to change it to anything else?

Because the default settings were 'Fixed' at '5.2'.

#40 Scot

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 11:00 AM

Because the default settings were 'Fixed' at '5.2'.


So you change it to "smart", 0.1. The reason why has already been explained in detail on the first page.

#41 holaCarlos

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 11:01 AM

So you change it to "smart", 0.1. The reason why has already been explained in detail on the first page.

Aha, sorry I missed that. Thanks!

#42 Docshroomed

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:59 PM

Well done, thanks!

#43 gfgrice

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 02:26 AM

Just saw the chart of restock frequence vs profit.

How safe is it to AB in #58? Never tried it before

#44 necospes

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 03:56 PM

Very nice guide! What do you think about Igloo and the Attic?

#45 kittycat

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:29 PM

Just saw the chart of restock frequence vs profit.

How safe is it to AB in #58? Never tried it before


It's not.

#46 crtitcmeerca

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 08:44 PM

And thank you for the chart as well, it really helps to have a clear understanding of the shop restocks. Thank you thank you thank you!!

#47 moopie

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 05:28 PM

Thank you very much for this guide. +rep

#48 TOOOSHITA

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 07:52 PM

ook, so I literally copied that screenshot you took of the wait times, etc. and it's been a good hour n a half n Ive gotten nothing D: Anything I could be doing wrong? Im doing the plushie shop, by the way, and I already tried the fresh foods shop.

#49 koobe

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 08:23 PM

ook, so I literally copied that screenshot you took of the wait times, etc. and it's been a good hour n a half n Ive gotten nothing D: Anything I could be doing wrong? Im doing the plushie shop, by the way, and I already tried the fresh foods shop.


Try buying something worthless first using the manual list option. This way you can get an idea of your buytimes, then reduce your settings so you can achieve Scot's times.

#50 TOOOSHITA

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 10:10 AM

Try buying something worthless first using the manual list option. This way you can get an idea of your buytimes, then reduce your settings so you can achieve Scot's times.


ahh ok, thanks :D



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