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#176 Lucario

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 06:30 AM

It's working very well, I got like 50k profit just from last 2 hours ! 

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#177 DarthGreed

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 06:50 AM

can anyone reupload those charts? or are they working but something with my adblocker or something. I've been in the book store for the last few months, but I want to move into other shops too.

 

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#178 SIGMA

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 06:16 AM

The charts aren't working for me either! :,(



#179 KaibaSama

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 12:40 PM

The charts aren't working for me either! :,(

I believe the only person who can fix them would be the OP, who has the pictures someone on their computer, or possibly a mod, who may be able to download the picture, re-upload it to an image hosting site and then edit the first post so the chart works again. The information contained in the guide is still useful though without the chart. I can try and summarize the chart though:

Stamps- high risk, high profit, easy to sell

Magic/BM/DM- high risk, high profit, easy to sell

Coins- slow restocks, med-high profit, easy to sell. 

Food- low profit, low risk, fast restocks, the higher end items can be a bit difficult to sell, but if it's a kad food it's easy to sell

Books- low profit, low risk, med-fast restocks, easy/hard to sell depending on the item

 

I can't remember what else was on the chart but that's the best I can give you, as I can't remember the restock rates for Stamps, Magic, BM, and DM. Shops that sell very high profit items constantly (like Magic and stamps) tend to be the high risk shops, while those that stock lower profit items most of the time (like foods or books) tend to be the low risk shops. It takes less time to earn high profits when ABing in a place like Magic/Stamps, but the risk is higher. It takes more time to earn high profits with foods, but the risk is much lower, and the restocks are fast, so that can help. 

 

I can try and ping @Scot to see if he still has the charts saved somewhere, but I'm not sure on the last time he was active here. 



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Posted 27 December 2015 - 05:20 PM

@DarthGreed @duckfeet3 @QueenLoki @ortin

 

Don't worry guys, I got this ^_^



#181 wlkwan

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 11:04 AM

is it worth to use  if i don't get a advance membership?


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#182 Kass

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 01:54 PM

is it worth to use  if i don't get a advance membership?

 

For sure! ABing nets me pretty much all of my np since I am lazy lol. Valorous' Valorsuite program is also worth checking out, because the buy times on there can be adjusted to your liking so that may be a good alternative since you do not have advanced.


Edited by Kass, 05 January 2016 - 01:54 PM.


#183 ntli

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 12:51 AM

why is it the first thing i've read was 'gay porn'

 

something's wrong with me



#184 musical

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 03:55 PM

do you guys use this program on your mains?

 

have any of you had any problems ? like getting frozen for instance...



#185 KaibaSama

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Posted 12 March 2016 - 05:02 PM

do you guys use this program on your mains?

 

have any of you had any problems ? like getting frozen for instance...

I use it on my main and haven't had any problems with it. Basically, don't be stupid with it. Don't leave it running for hours on end without a break. I'd say something about making sure the settings you're using aren't too fast, but you're a regular member and can't change the settings. The default settings have been tested many times, so no need to worry, those settings have been tested to be safe. 



#186 JaneTheDog

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Posted 15 March 2016 - 07:55 AM

Is the neocodex item database list still somewhat accurate or is it completely fucked?

Prices have been super weird since I restarted a couple of weeks back.



#187 marzipan11

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 07:15 AM

Yes, it lacks people to update prices for items, as the right of pricing seems to be hold to senior user who have 500+ posts in Neocodex forum. However, more and more senior user withdrew from Neopets, makes qualified pricer lesser.

 

Try to generate a item list from Jellyneo and use "Manual List" option to buy items you think is worth of. But I'm not sure if such function available to non-advance members.



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 08:08 AM

Yes, it lacks people to update prices for items, as the right of pricing seems to be hold to senior user who have 500+ posts in Neocodex forum. However, more and more senior user withdrew from Neopets, makes qualified pricer lesser.

 

Try to generate a item list from Jellyneo and use "Manual List" option to buy items you think is worth of. But I'm not sure if such function available to non-advance members.

Ony unbuyable items can be updated by users with 500 posts or more. Buyable items cannot be updated by anyone, even those with 500+ posts. Those are updated by Abrosia and neon-AP. Non advanced members can use manual lists, it's the only way they can chose their own shops as they can't use Abrosia's function for that. 



#189 marzipan11

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:03 PM

Ony unbuyable items can be updated by users with 500 posts or more. Buyable items cannot be updated by anyone, even those with 500+ posts. Those are updated by Abrosia and neon-AP. Non advanced members can use manual lists, it's the only way they can chose their own shops as they can't use Abrosia's function for that. 

Thanks for the correction ;) Thinking of make a list of unbuyable item prices from TP&JN and provide to itemDB, sounds like a good way to upgrade my rank :rolleyes:



#190 panther1

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 04:29 PM

I've been buying at like 4200ms.   That's fast enough right?   Right?!?!?    I did actually get 16m for an item I ab'd in 4444ms super laggy garbage with a mishaggle error too i think.  



#191 mariaahry

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 01:34 AM

Great! :D thanks



#192 xdeathwolfx

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Posted 18 December 2016 - 05:05 PM

getting RS banned at 5-12, gonna up it to 6.5-12 see how i go



#193 aidenX

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:13 AM

 I can try and summarize the chart though:

Stamps- high risk, high profit, easy to sell

Magic/BM/DM- high risk, high profit, easy to sell

Coins- slow restocks, med-high profit, easy to sell. 

Food- low profit, low risk, fast restocks, the higher end items can be a bit difficult to sell, but if it's a kad food it's easy to sell

Books- low profit, low risk, med-fast restocks, easy/hard to sell depending on the item

 

Thank you for the easy list! Do you know how long is the interval for r95+ items to be restocked at neopian store? Is it once a month or less or maybe more? I'm interested in a few items but it seem even on the ItemDB they are updated very rarely and some of them has no "Last Restock" history.

 

getting RS banned at 5-12, gonna up it to 6.5-12 see how i go

 

Please update your result here for the rest of us :)



#194 KaibaSama

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:39 AM

Thank you for the easy list! Do you know how long is the interval for r95+ items to be restocked at neopian store? Is it once a month or less or maybe more? I'm interested in a few items but it seem even on the ItemDB they are updated very rarely and some of them has no "Last Restock" history.
 

 
Please update your result here for the rest of us :)


There really isn't a set interval for those kinds of items. It's possible they've restocked, but no one was running the AB in that store at the time, so we didn't catch it. Some items could be retired, so they don't stock anymore. Some items don't restock at all, because you can't get them from a store (so TP, auctions,etc are the few ways to get those),

#195 InsertUsername

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 01:50 PM

Why are the stamps/magic shop are riskier?

If you limit you profit margin to say like 200k/day, there shouldn't be a problem, is there?

 

What are unbuyable items? I guess they aren't retired items, because you just can't buy them. So is it an Items that is harder to sell than a HTS item?



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 03:23 PM

The items are much more expensive and sought after therefore legit players and TNT tend to scrutinize those items much more. They're not all harder to sell, just more highly watched and if you look like a shell for abing chances are you'll get nailed either by TNT or the legit restockers who can be report happy.

#197 owleyes

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 07:04 AM

Just wondering is someone could check my times as I am using it on my main and don't want to be too risky. I am buying in a variety of shops (stamps, food, books, magic)

 

Refresh 3-5

Pre Haggle 0.5-0.7

OCR 1-1.4

 

Overall buy times 2400-3300ms

 

I am just wondering if I can drop my OCR and Pre Haggle times at all?

 

Thank you



#198 KaibaSama

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 07:16 AM

Just wondering is someone could check my times as I am using it on my main and don't want to be too risky. I am buying in a variety of shops (stamps, food, books, magic)

 

Refresh 3-5

Pre Haggle 0.5-0.7

OCR 1-1.4

 

Overall buy times 2400-3300ms

 

I am just wondering if I can drop my OCR and Pre Haggle times at all?

 

Thank you

That's actually considered a bit slow. Times around 1500ms are considered to be a bit faster, but safer. You can lower your times a bit. Your OCR is pretty high. 



#199 owleyes

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 07:40 AM

@KyloRen

 

Thank you.

 

It is so confusing. I have looked lots of other forums etc and some say 1500ms times are very risky. Or is that dependent on the program being used?

 

I will try dropping my OCR. At one time I used .5-.8

 

Or is that too fast now? XD



#200 KaibaSama

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:06 AM

@KyloRen

 

Thank you.

 

It is so confusing. I have looked lots of other forums etc and some say 1500ms times are very risky. Or is that dependent on the program being used?

 

I will try dropping my OCR. At one time I used .5-.8

 

Or is that too fast now? XD

I'd say it's dependent on the program. Here we consider 1500ms+ to be the "safe zone" (well, as safe as cheating can be). As for your OCR, just keep watch on your buy times, if they're too fast, raise it. If they're too slow, lower it. 





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