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#1 MetalVender

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:24 AM

Ok I checked with my bank and they said that if i use paypal to order something that the order will be a direct debit and that i will be able to take awhile to pay back the overdrawn balance...

SO what i did was ordered a phone of roughly 750 bucks and paypal payed it, my bank account on net bank said the payment went through, the website said that it was all succesfull and paypal said the payments were complete...

The Website mobicity.com also has shipped the phone and the tracking number says it is due to arrive on monday....

But now after a day i checked my netbank to find myself not in debt and that i was charged a 5 dollar unpaid payment fee... i checked with paypal and everything seems fine, i sent a ticket to mobicity and have yet to hear back but according to netbank (commonwealth) the payment was apparently bounced or something due to not enough funds... even tho it was meant to be a direct debit

SO I AM CONFUSED AND STRESSED AND SORRY FOR SPELLING AND STUFF!!!

So... i was told due to federal law (not sure wether this applies for me in australia) but apparently the package is mine...

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    #2 ToxicS

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:25 AM

    copying status update over (this is what thread op should have done) to prevent repeats

    Skrillex Today, 01:38 AM
    o: what in the hell phone cost you 760$?!

    Toxic-Snipe Today, 01:38 AM · Delete
    Stopped at " Ok So i Ordered a Phone of about 760 bucks"

    WHY??

    MetalVender Today, 01:40 AM
    Galaxy S 2

    fruityone Today, 01:58 AM
    Free phone? Congrats.

    MetalVender Today, 02:00 AM
    Dunno fruityone i just dunno have a feeling the whole thing has been cancelled so i have contacted paypal and also mobicity, have asked what the go is with paypal and also asked wether or not mobi city may still be able to send me the phone but charge my account by direct debit which should mean i can pay it off like i was originally told

    Toxic-Snipe 37 minutes ago · Delete
    Just say you never received it. Paying 760 dollars for a phone is criminal.

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    They shipped it without a total confirmation and you received it due to federal law the package is yours, but morality says fix it.

    MetalVender 6 minutes ago
    Wait... So... Because paypal paid them... And they shipped it... to me... and it should arrive on Monday... That.... Your saying.... Because my Bank is saying that the payment was returned to me... You are saying that basically i can keep it?

    #3 MetalVender

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:28 AM

    View PostToxic-Snipe, on 08 July 2011 - 02:25 AM, said:

    copying status update over (this is what thread op should have done) to prevent repeats

    Skrillex Today, 01:38 AM
    o: what in the hell phone cost you 760$?!

    Toxic-Snipe Today, 01:38 AM · Delete
    Stopped at " Ok So i Ordered a Phone of about 760 bucks"

    WHY??

    MetalVender Today, 01:40 AM
    Galaxy S 2

    fruityone Today, 01:58 AM
    Free phone? Congrats.

    MetalVender Today, 02:00 AM
    Dunno fruityone i just dunno have a feeling the whole thing has been cancelled so i have contacted paypal and also mobicity, have asked what the go is with paypal and also asked wether or not mobi city may still be able to send me the phone but charge my account by direct debit which should mean i can pay it off like i was originally told

    Toxic-Snipe 37 minutes ago · Delete
    Just say you never received it. Paying 760 dollars for a phone is criminal.

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    They shipped it without a total confirmation and you received it due to federal law the package is yours, but morality says fix it.

    MetalVender 6 minutes ago
    Wait... So... Because paypal paid them... And they shipped it... to me... and it should arrive on Monday... That.... Your saying.... Because my Bank is saying that the payment was returned to me... You are saying that basically i can keep it?

    oh did i break a rule?

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    #4 ToxicS

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:29 AM

    You didn't break a rule, but it's nice to not have redundancy

    #5 MetalVender

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:31 AM

    View PostToxic-Snipe, on 08 July 2011 - 02:29 AM, said:

    You didn't break a rule, but it's nice to not have redundancy

    Sorry, i just thought maybe a thread would be slightly better since the status update setup is running flash i think and many people may not be able to comment my aplogies!

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    #6 Elle

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:44 AM

    Its probably considered as like...stealing :/
    Isn't there some agreement on the site that says "you agree to pay such and such and amount for these goods" ?

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    #7 MetalVender

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:26 AM

    http://www.mobicity..../ts-and-cs.html ???????????

    So, any help with this scenario ?

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    #8 iargue

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:34 AM

    Here is were things stand legally.

    You are allowed the keep the phone, but if they request actual payment, you must pay them, or return the phone.

    Morally it is a completely different story, but that is something for you to decide on.

    View PostMetalVender, on 08 July 2011 - 02:31 AM, said:

    Sorry, i just thought maybe a thread would be slightly better since the status update setup is running flash i think and many people may not be able to comment my aplogies!


    It doesn't have anything to do with flash...


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    #9 MetalVender

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:39 AM

    View Postiargue, on 08 July 2011 - 03:34 AM, said:

    Here is were things stand legally.

    You are allowed the keep the phone, but if they request actual payment, you must pay them, or return the phone.

    Morally it is a completely different story, but that is something for you to decide on.




    It doesn't have anything to do with flash...

    Ok well do you think that mobicity would agree to just monthly bill me or something?

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    #10 ToxicS

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:47 AM

    View PostMetalVender, on 08 July 2011 - 03:39 AM, said:

    Ok well do you think that mobicity would agree to just monthly bill me or something?
    Just wait and see what happens.

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:48 AM

    View Postiargue, on 08 July 2011 - 03:34 AM, said:

    Here is were things stand legally.

    You are allowed the keep the phone, but if they request actual payment, you must pay them, or return the phone.

    Morally it is a completely different story, but that is something for you to decide on.




    It doesn't have anything to do with flash...

    This, but there are more stipulations iargue there is a decree on receiving stolen goods. This is what it would be "classified as"
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    #12 MetalVender

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:57 AM

    I am confused

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    #13 iargue

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 04:00 AM

    View PostMetalVender, on 08 July 2011 - 03:39 AM, said:

    Ok well do you think that mobicity would agree to just monthly bill me or something?


    They might have still received the payment from paypal and do not care at all.


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    #14 MetalVender

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 04:02 AM

    View Postiargue, on 08 July 2011 - 04:00 AM, said:

    They might have still received the payment from paypal and do not care at all.

    Ok... So... IF they still have payment from paypal... and my bank has not allowed the money to be payed to them... then.... how do i pay paypal back?

    Because the other day my netbank showed my overdrawn account and then today shows that its no longer overdrawn

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    #15 iargue

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 04:06 AM

    View PostMetalVender, on 08 July 2011 - 04:02 AM, said:

    Ok... So... IF they still have payment from paypal... and my bank has not allowed the money to be payed to them... then.... how do i pay paypal back?

    Because the other day my netbank showed my overdrawn account and then today shows that its no longer overdrawn


    That's honestly up to whoever tells you that you have no paid them and requested money. Paypal may have gotten money from your bank still, and is completely happy. You basically have no idea who was paid at this point, and should wait for someone to request payment.


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    #16 MetalVender

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 04:08 AM

    View Postiargue, on 08 July 2011 - 04:06 AM, said:

    That's honestly up to whoever tells you that you have no paid them and requested money. Paypal may have gotten money from your bank still, and is completely happy. You basically have no idea who was paid at this point, and should wait for someone to request payment.

    Ok then ill just have to wait and try not to stress about it but it sounds awesome that paypal and mobi could both have the money and i sorta wouldnt have paid for it i guess but anyway thanks for help

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