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[Nubge]

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Discuss about it.


Please vote into the poll.

Do you agree with this sentence? Why?

Edited by Nubge, 29 November 2011 - 11:41 AM.

[Pikachuu]

No way! Blame the JUNKIE not the dealer.

[punkrockbigmouth]

Nubge, on 29 November 2011 - 11:28 AM, said:

Are you agree with his sentence? Why?

I don't agree with this sentence, because it should say, "Do you agree with this sentence?"

As for the Conrad Murray thing, he also loses his license. It was not his intention to kill Michael Jackson, but he did his fair share of harm. I don't know that four years is long enough, but I am happy he will not be able to medically care for anyone in the future. He embodies everything I hate about physicians- being careless, thoughtless enablers who serve their own greed above the welfare of their patient.

[Bone]

It's kind of funny how people only care about malpractice when it happens to a celebrity (or themselves).

[DanDoesWork]

I don't quite agree with 4 years. I wasn't following this case through 100% but it's gained extra attention of course because of the high profiles in it. But let me say this...did anybody force MJ to take these drugs? No. MJ most likely was told the possible negatives of taking such drugs also. As much as people want to blame someone I think the courts may have tried too hard on this one. I may be wrong though. They always need to point out that he has no remorse for this...well after months of trials in which he thought he didn't do anything wrong how could he? Why would someone lie about their honest feeling eh

If you're willing to put away a man for giving a drug that killed a person then why the HELL aren't they going after the cigarette, and alcohol companies? Can't they be charged with killing so many people every year due to their product? Lol I don't know. On top of everything he needs to pay restitution. Conrad most likely won't serve all 4 years.

[Rainie]

DanDoesWork, on 29 November 2011 - 01:54 PM, said:

...If you're willing to put away a man for giving a drug that killed a person then why the HELL aren't they going after the cigarette, and alcohol companies? Can't they be charged with killing so many people every year due to their product?...

On that note, it's most likely because cigarette & alcohol companies have a lot of money, and that money could be used to get a good lawyer/bribe/blackmail people/etc.
/Not that I don't support what you're saying though o: I've done a bunch of reports on smoking and I highly support banning it, just breathing in secondhand smoke will immediately effects heart and blood circulation (those who claim it immediately causes cardiovascular problems are inaccurate though)/

&&Back to the topic question cX~

DanDoesWork, on 29 November 2011 - 01:54 PM, said:

...did anybody force MJ to take these drugs? No. MJ most likely was told the possible negatives of taking such drugs also.

Although I do agree that Jackson should have known the effects of the drugs the whole time and willingly kept taking them,

punkrockbigmouth, on 29 November 2011 - 11:38 AM, said:

It was not his intention to kill Michael Jackson, but he did his fair share of harm. I don't know that four years is long enough, but I am happy he will not be able to medically care for anyone in the future. He embodies everything I hate about physicians- being careless, thoughtless enablers who serve their own greed above the welfare of their patient.

^
I feel like it's wrong to allow drugs such as those anyways :x

[DanDoesWork]

Rainie, on 29 November 2011 - 02:11 PM, said:

On that note, it's most likely because cigarette & alcohol companies have a lot of money, and that money could be used to get a good lawyer/bribe/blackmail people/etc.
/Not that I don't support what you're saying though o: I've done a bunch of reports on smoking and I highly support banning it, just breathing in secondhand smoke will immediately effects heart and blood circulation (those who claim it immediately causes cardiovascular problems are inaccurate though)/

&&Back to the topic question cX~

Yep no way to take down that large chain...plus the government needs it anyways. Just like they need big Pharma -__- Call me a hippie but if you're willing to sell drugs people that are known to kill people at such a staggering rate...then why is marijuana still not legal? pff on top of many other things keeping it behind bleh

Anyways though looks like Conrad is going to get his share of christmas surprises

[Nubge]

DanDoesWork, on 29 November 2011 - 02:25 PM, said:

Anyways though looks like Conrad is going to get his share of christmas surprises

Agree ^

hahaha

[nymh]

I am glad he lost his license. Being a physician does not mean that you can do no wrong, and it does not imply that the physician will only make decisions which are in the best interest of the patient. "Pain clinics" and "weight loss centers" are popping up all over the place, with doctors and nurse practitioners dealing out drugs to anyone willing to pay the price. We need to hold our medical professionals to a higher standard. Just because someone is rich and famous does NOT mean that they should be given whatever the hell they want. I am sure that MJ didn't walk in off the street asking for Propofol, indicating that the doctor must have gradually worked him up to that point. At some time (before the Propofol) he should have recognized that his patient was not just someone famous but a junkie which he was enabling, the situatuon spinning out of control.

My only disappointment is that it takes a celebrity dying for this kind of physician to lose the ability to practice medicine.

[lonewolf]

4 years does seem a bit harsh,,,but he wasnt trained properly and seemed a bit suspicious with all the hiding of the propolfol and everything

[Frizzle]

Wow, in most places, you get rewarded for killing peadophiles

[Therion]

Frizzle, on 02 December 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

Wow, in most places, you get rewarded for killing peadophiles

Let's try to keep from speculating on the victim's character, especially when most of it is just conjecture.

I felt the sentence was just, if a little light. The man clearly did not feel any remorse for assisting in the death, and that kind of person having been given the ability to administer easily lethal doses of drugs concerns me. I'm thankful his medical license was stripped.

Edited by Therion, 02 December 2011 - 09:26 PM.

[Frizzle]

Speculating? He paid off a child's family not to blab to the police. You only pay someone off because you're guilty.

[Andy]

The sentence seems fair to me, 4 years is a LONG time to spend in jail. The crimes which Mr. Murray were found guilty of warranted such a sentence. Doctors have a position of trust with their patients, Mr Murray should have never prescribed Jackson those drugs, to say he didn't know the risks would be poppycock, he's a doctor, it's what he's paid ALOT of money to know. And if he didn't know, he should have never prescribed it. Murray was so grossly incompetent and his patient paid for that with his life.

[Amagius]

Frizzle, on 03 December 2011 - 01:42 AM, said:

Speculating? He paid off a child's family not to blab to the police.

Speaking of speculation...

I don't think four years is just. He was Michael's friend and had agreed to the Hippocratic Oath. It was an accident and his sentence doesn't bring back Michael Jackson. You get four years for drunk driving and hitting someone or playfully aiming your Glock at someone's skull, not trying to serve someone's medical wishes or needs. He ignored the complex drug interactions and psychological intensity needed of Jackson's treatment.

As he likely won't be practicing anymore, 6 to 24 months maximum seems fair. It's idealistic, but maybe the last half of his incarceration could have been spent towards pharmacological research grants or medical regulatory procedures.

[Jake]

Bone, on 29 November 2011 - 01:44 PM, said:

It's kind of funny how people only care about malpractice when it happens to a celebrity (or themselves).

This. I love people raising awareness on certain cancers when they find out they have it. Personally I don't give a belch about MJ so that doctor should be released and kill more celebrities.

[toneey]

Yes. He performed CPR incorrectly which WOULD've saved MJ