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#51 redlion

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

View Postsoul__stealer, on 19 January 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

Just found this brilliant comment posted anonymously by someone on one of the news articles regarding the topic.
Great quote. The difference of course is that xeroxing a book only enables a (relatively) few folks in your immediate area to get around buying the book, whereas digital downloading is available anywhere, anytime, given an internet connection.

Not the best of analogies, but still worth considering. Piracy is nothing new :)

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    #52 soul__stealer

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    Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:53 PM

    View Postredlion, on 19 January 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

    Great quote. The difference of course is that xeroxing a book only enables a (relatively) few folks in your immediate area to get around buying the book, whereas digital downloading is available anywhere, anytime, given an internet connection.

    Not the best of analogies, but still worth considering. Piracy is nothing new :)
    Sure. Just like with torrents, it just means there have to be more nodes :p

    Person A buys book; copies and shares with b, c, d and e

    Each of those also copy the book and so on. It will still go around just like torrents, just the delivery method is slower. I see a lot of reference material in workplaces that has been copied multiple times for training and handed out time and time again... hell... I'm willing to bet an entire years salary that this also happens within the organisations that are fighting piracy.

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    #53 redlion

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:10 AM

    View Postsoul__stealer, on 19 January 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

    Sure. Just like with torrents, it just means there have to be more nodes :p

    Person A buys book; copies and shares with b, c, d and e

    Each of those also copy the book and so on. It will still go around just like torrents, just the delivery method is slower. I see a lot of reference material in workplaces that has been copied multiple times for training and handed out time and time again... hell... I'm willing to bet an entire years salary that this also happens within the organisations that are fighting piracy.
    Yes, but (correct me if I'm mistaken) isn't it entirely legal to photocopy for educational purposes? The RIAA isn't educational, but copying a textbook to use in classes surely is.

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    #54 soul__stealer

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:28 AM

    View Postredlion, on 20 January 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

    Yes, but (correct me if I'm mistaken) isn't it entirely legal to photocopy for educational purposes? The RIAA isn't educational, but copying a textbook to use in classes surely is.
    I'm not sure. I think copying books for students vs copying books for staff training would fall under 2 different forms of education, the latter being copyright and illegal... although I'm sure that they would somehow argue otherwise. Training of staff is an expense which would be tax deductable, which means reference material would also be tax deductable. Personally I don't see how they can say one form of copyright is legal and then another form of copyright is illegal. Sure, educational facilities such as schools and libraries should be permitted to copy material for educational purposes, as they are the ones ensuring our children learn for the future, however businesses shouldn't get away with the same.

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    #55 rhexis07

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:32 AM

    View Postredlion, on 20 January 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

    Yes, but (correct me if I'm mistaken) isn't it entirely legal to photocopy for educational purposes? The RIAA isn't educational, but copying a textbook to use in classes surely is.

    I believe you can photocopy parts of textbooks, just not the entire textbook.

    #56 Lychee

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:45 AM

    View Postrhexis07, on 20 January 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

    I believe you can photocopy parts of textbooks, just not the entire textbook.

    That's right. I can't remember if the exact figure is 5% or 10%, but a safe guideline is usually given as one chapter or article from a book.



    #57 jcrboy

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 01:35 AM

    View PostXexist, on 19 January 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

    I feel like I just lost a family member :(

    *mourns*

    View PostPilot, on 19 January 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

    lol Megaupload

    Mediafire Master Race here.

    Psht. That is all.

    View PostToxicS, on 19 January 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

    Jcrboy had like 500+ dollars he could have redeemed. He is going to be so pissed when he finds out.

    I assumed mega would always be there for me... *cries*

    ...and I needed that $500........ *cries harder*

    View PostWaser Lave, on 19 January 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

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    #58 GeorgeBright

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 04:56 AM

    I'm happy about this.

    #59 Waser Lave

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:04 AM

    View Postredlion, on 20 January 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

    Yes, but (correct me if I'm mistaken) isn't it entirely legal to photocopy for educational purposes? The RIAA isn't educational, but copying a textbook to use in classes surely is.

    At my university the rules were:

    • A chapter of a book, or 5% of a book, whichever is the longer
    • One complete article from a single issue of a journal
    • A maximum of ten pages of a poem, short story, or other short literary work, taken from a volume of short stories or poems
    • Up to 10% (maximum 20 pages) of a pamphlet, report or pamphlet
    • One separate illustration, diagram, photograph or map up to A4 size. However, if the illustrations form an integral part of an article or chapter, they may be included as part of that extract

    Either way you're probably not going to get sent to prison for breaking the rules.

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    #60 Sida

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:27 AM

    View PostWaser Lave, on 20 January 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

    At my university the rules were:

    • A chapter of a book, or 5% of a book, whichever is the longer
    • One complete article from a single issue of a journal
    • A maximum of ten pages of a poem, short story, or other short literary work, taken from a volume of short stories or poems
    • Up to 10% (maximum 20 pages) of a pamphlet, report or pamphlet
    • One separate illustration, diagram, photograph or map up to A4 size. However, if the illustrations form an integral part of an article or chapter, they may be included as part of that extract

    Either way you're probably not going to get sent to prison for breaking the rules.

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    #61 Waser Lave

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 06:16 AM

    View PostSida, on 20 January 2012 - 05:27 AM, said:

    Who the fuck would even consider working that out when copying something Posted Image

    I never did. :p

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    #62 iargue

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 01:24 PM

    View PostWharfRat, on 19 January 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

    Just bought a 4 year membership like 2 weeks ago... Damn. :(


    I think the is the largest issue with what is happening.

    Megaupload, even if its just on the service, is a fileshare/backup provider. Their legitimate face, which was used, is to store files for people to retrieve from anywhere, and have access to as a backup. People did use this service (I have on many accounts).

    Given that people did pay for this service, and they did use it, the government acted rashly, and probably illegally by shutting it down without any form of warning, or ability to recover lost files.

    Even if 90% of megaupload was used for the purpose of copyright infringement. That still leaves at least a million people who now have no access to files in which they where legally guaranteed access to. By taking down the site immediately, and not providing any warning, or way of accessing these files, they have violated the rights of everyone using it for a legitimate purpose.

    I, for one, am hoping to see a class action lawsuit against the government for removing those files without warning or ability to recover them.


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    #63 supertrap

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:01 PM

    They made the mistake of using Servers in virgina.

    Thats why the US can file the charges.

    btw, we can hitler it and blame all this on the jews in the entertainment industry.

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    #64 punkrockbigmouth

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:31 PM

    View Postsupertrap, on 20 January 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

    They made the mistake of using Servers in virgina.

    Thats why the US can file the charges.

    btw, we can hitler it and blame all this on the jews in the entertainment industry.

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    #65 redlion

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    Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:43 PM

    View Postpunkrockbigmouth, on 20 January 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

    Is that you, Mel Gibson?
    He's not drunk, probably not him.

    Then again, I'm drunk. Judgement probably impaired.

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    #66 punkrockbigmouth

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    Posted 21 January 2012 - 12:13 AM

    View Postredlion, on 20 January 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

    He's not drunk, probably not him.

    Then again, I'm drunk. Judgement probably impaired.

    Just as long as you don't refer to anyone as 'sugartits' I think you're fine.

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    #67 frostz

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    Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:16 AM

    Unfortunately they shut down megavideo, a sub-site of megaupload as well...

    Where am i going to watch my movies now....? I actually used Megavideo quite a lot and am not sure what to replace it with now that it is gone

    Edited by frostz, 21 January 2012 - 02:17 AM.


    #68 Sweeney

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    Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:41 AM

    View Postfrostz, on 21 January 2012 - 02:16 AM, said:

    Unfortunately they shut down megavideo, a sub-site of megaupload as well...

    Where am i going to watch my movies now....? I actually used Megavideo quite a lot and am not sure what to replace it with now that it is gone
    It was actually the same hosting system, not a sub-site. Obviously they'd go down together.


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    #69 Turnip

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    Posted 21 January 2012 - 05:02 AM

    Thank goodness all of the things I download get uploaded to Mediafire/other placesoh wait shit I just remembered, I still had to download a few things from MU :crybaby:
    H-hopefully they're in other places as well...

    But wow, that sucks D: I hope they come back sometime soon...

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    #70 Waser Lave

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    Posted 21 January 2012 - 05:20 AM

    I miss MegaUpload, I used to get 4-5MB/s download speeds from them*. :(

    * On completely legal downloads, honest guv'nor (just in case anybody is watching).

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    #71 iargue

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    Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:01 PM

    KimDotcom denied bail


    Maybe if he hadn't tried to barricade himself in a safe, he might have been able to escape.


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    #72 Waser Lave

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    Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:08 PM

    View Postiargue, on 22 January 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

    KimDotcom denied bail


    Maybe if he hadn't tried to barricade himself in a safe, he might have been able to escape.

    76 armed police + helicopters seems a bit excessive. :p I wonder how long it'll be until somebody plans to make a film about the whole Megaupload story.

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    #73 ToxicS

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    Posted 22 January 2012 - 02:00 PM



    It is quite possible this can happen.

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    Posted 24 January 2012 - 09:38 PM

    View PostGeorgeBright, on 20 January 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

    I'm happy about this.

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    Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:42 AM

    So many uploads to that site, now all dead. :(

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