24 replies to this topic

[Adina]

Everyone says ABing in the magic shop is very dangerous. Thing is, I would assume there are legit restockers who get the morphing potions and such as well, so why would it raise red flags? I was thinking about doing it, but I'm rather nervous.

Any opinions? [:

[Goose]

They freeze legit rs'ers sometimes too.

[Russell]

It's only 'dangerous' because people put their buy times down really low just to get the MPs, then get frozen because of it. I also heard something about TNT 'watches' Magic more than any other shop because it has the most ABers in there - dunno about that however.

[Adina]

Does anyone know any safe ways to restock? Preferably tried methods. I mean in terms of times, and for what period of time to restock there a day.



This will sound pretty lame, but I feel bad for the legit people that work so hard for their shit, only to get frozen because of people like us.

[Drakonid]

I do magic all the time, have reasonable settings(aka, don't be a retard) and you'll be fine.

[Adina]

Drakonid, on 19 January 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I do magic all the time, have reasonable settings(aka, don't be a retard) and you'll be fine.

My settings are slightly risky. Maybe 3-5s is what I regularly use in specific shops and the most I get is RS banned for 12 hours.

[Scot]

Adina, on 19 January 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

This will sound pretty lame, but I feel bad for the legit people that work so hard for their shit, only to get frozen because of people like us.

True but they also overvalue their shit, they nickel and dime you every chance they get, they drive up prices of something that would otherwise be cheap. I derive a great sense of satisfaction from setting my prices at half the tp price.

And welcome back Adina.

[Drakonid]

That's fine, maybe raise your max a bit...

[Scot]

Everyone reading this should aim for sub-1300 buy times

[Adina]

Scot, on 19 January 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

True but they also overvalue their shit, they nickel and dime you every chance they get, they drive up prices of something that would otherwise be cheap. I derive a great sense of satisfaction from setting my prices at half the tp price.

And welcome back Adina.

Thank you scot.

Drakonid, on 19 January 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

That's fine, maybe raise your max a bit...

Gah, I don't know if I'm willing to take the risk, but thanks.

Edited by Adina, 19 January 2012 - 08:58 PM.

[Drakonid]

How is raising your times a risk?

[nymh]

Scot, on 19 January 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

True but they also overvalue their shit, they nickel and dime you every chance they get, they drive up prices of something that would otherwise be cheap. I derive a great sense of satisfaction from setting my prices at half the tp price.

And welcome back Adina.

They also go to less-moderated item databases and artificially inflate the prices of the items they are trading so it looks like their price is better than it actually is.

[Adina]

Drakonid, on 19 January 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

How is raising your times a risk?

I meant taking the risk of ABing there.

[Ziz]

Goose, on 19 January 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

They freeze legit rs'ers sometimes too.

I restocked there for years.
Never got frozen for it, nor any of my friends who also restocked there.
Somehow, they can tell the difference between a restocker and an aber in that shop.

[Yung]

Ziz, on 19 January 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

I restocked there for years.
Never got frozen for it, nor any of my friends who also restocked there.
Somehow, they can tell the difference between a restocker and an aber in that shop.

I find that hard to believe as there are many of us here that AB there and have never been frozen for that. If that were true it would be site wide and not just there. I have never been frozen for auto-buying. I have been frozen but never for that reason.

[Adina]

Yung, on 19 January 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

I find that hard to believe as there are many of us here that AB there and have never been frozen for that. If that were true it would be site wide and not just there. I have never been frozen for auto-buying. I have been frozen but never for that reason.

Are you still auto buying in the magic shop?

[Bx2]

Just from what I've heard, the Magic Shop seems to be the most highly watched area on Neopets.
I, personally, would be worried about the dangers of being frozen.

[zagakev]

So far with 7-12 seconds its been safe at magic for me.

[Rainie]

zagakev, on 22 January 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

So far with 7-12 seconds its been safe at magic for me.

If you mean those are your refresh times, that doesn't really impact your freeze risk unless you refresh every 0.1 seconds or something o3o
(&If you meant buy times, then it'd be impossible for you to get any items ~)

[Fireworks]

I think abing in magic is quite safe, until you manage to actually buy high profit potions. I've been abing in there safely but after getting a couple of buys and some pretty good ones, I got frozen so...~

[Kraftwerk]

I've always asked myself how does TNT when you were using and AB and weren't? I mean if you use humanly possible times...

[Adina]

Rainie, on 22 January 2012 - 09:53 AM, said:

If you mean those are your refresh times, that doesn't really impact your freeze risk unless you refresh every 0.1 seconds or something o3o
(&If you meant buy times, then it'd be impossible for you to get any items ~)

You never know. If legit people can get frozen, so can ABers. I, like many others, don't have a clue as to how TNT decides who to freeze in terms of the magic shop.

[nymh]

Adina, on 22 January 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

You never know. If legit people can get frozen, so can ABers. I, like many others, don't have a clue as to how TNT decides who to freeze in terms of the magic shop.

I have a theory that it has to do with butthurt legit (or illegit for that matter) RS'ers reporting people they see trading MP's that they missed. Don't know if there is any merit behind this, however.

Edited by nymh, 22 January 2012 - 07:36 PM.

[Adina]

nymh, on 22 January 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

I have a theory that it has to do with butthurt legit (or illegit for that matter) RS'ers reporting people they see trading MP's that they missed. Don't know if there is any merit behind this, however.

That's possible. A lot of people say don't put UB's on the TP immediately after you RS them. It's dangerous.

[Mewant]

This is all good info for a person that is just starting to AB, Thanx