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[ToxicS]

Sign the petition here http://www.change.or...ons/oppose-acta

Obama has already signed it. If you support Obama think again.

Edited by ToxicS, 23 January 2012 - 01:54 PM.

[Marshall]

Ugh, I've seen this popping up all over the place since SOPA got shelved. It's insane.

[supertrap]

Im horrified.

[Frank274]

America. Fuck our politicians (even though I want to be one).

If they weren't such greedy little bastards we wouldn't have this problem. God, sometimes I really hate my government.

[Sage]

Didn't waste a fucking moment, did they?

[Applepi]

Frank274, on 22 January 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

America. Fuck our politicians (even though I want to be one).

If they weren't such greedy little bastards we wouldn't have this problem. God, sometimes I really hate my government.

i agree. it seems kinda funny to me that when there are FAR greater issues that need attention, the us gov't is focused on social issues and how to deal with this so called "internet problem"...how about dealing with the "unemployment problem" or the "deficit problem"?

[Turnip]

Frank274, on 22 January 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

America. Fuck our politicians (even though I want to be one).

Well, you should definitely become one!! America needs some decent politicians who aren't old, silly men~

[Frank274]

Applepi, on 22 January 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

i agree. it seems kinda funny to me that when there are FAR greater issues that need attention, the us gov't is focused on social issues and how to deal with this so called "internet problem"...how about dealing with the "unemployment problem" or the "deficit problem"?

Maybe this internet problem is their way to fix our deficit problem? If everyone has to pay to get the EXACT same info, wouldn't there just be a load of money floating around?

Turnip, on 22 January 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Well, you should definitely become one!! America needs some decent politicians who aren't old, silly men~

I'm thinking about it, honestly. I have to do 4 years in the Navy first, and that time doesn't start until 2013, so I won't be able to enter any political field until at least 2017. By then we will all be fucked to no end. -sigh- Let me just wave my American flag and pretend that I have faith that our elected "leaders" will figure something out.

Honestly though, I hate how in America we preach about "freedom of speech" and countries that don't allow freedoms are "evil." They are taking away OUR freedoms by censoring the internet, but it's okay because "we're America. We do whatever we want."

Fuck it. I hope this years elections show that we (everyone else) won't sit by at let Congress run shit they want to. Dusty old farts need to be removed from office.

[Applepi]

Frank274, on 22 January 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Maybe this internet problem is their way to fix our deficit problem? If everyone has to pay to get the EXACT same info, wouldn't there just be a load of money floating around?

i really hope you're being sarcastic here. If this is what they think will fix the problem...we may have WAY bigger issues to deal with than the deficit

[becaroo]

<insert prof. farnsworth meme here>

Politicians make me /facepalm so frequently...

[ToxicS]

Guess what. The worst thing is, Obama has already signed it and forced it to be private!!

Both the Bush administration and the Obama administration had rejected requests to make the text of ACTA public, with the White House saying that disclosure would cause "damage to the national security."[88] In 2009, Knowledge Ecology International filed a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request in the United States, but their entire request was denied. The Office of the United States Trade Representative's Freedom of Information office stated the request was withheld for being material "properly classified in the interest of national security."[89] US Senators Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Sherrod Brown (D-OH) penned a letter on 23 November 2009, asking the United States Trade Representative to make the text of the ACTA public.[90]

Source: http://en.wikipedia....Trade_Agreement

[Abradix]

[Inver]

... Ugh. This is ridiculous. Just like when they were trying to get us to stop burning CDs. Innovate or GTFO, businesses.

[Makinami]

It's like they're hoping that the internet will be distracted by the "win" over SOPA and PIPA.

I bet you that SOPA and PIPA were meant to be sneaky distractions >>

[Inver]

Makinami, on 25 January 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

It's like they're hoping that the internet will be distracted by the "win" over SOPA and PIPA.

I bet you that SOPA and PIPA were meant to be sneaky distractions >>

But it was apparently signed months ago.

More info here: http://www.techdirt....ification.shtml

[Origins]

Bound to happen.

[themetagame]

ToxicS, on 22 January 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Sign the petition here http://www.change.or...ons/oppose-acta

Obama has already signed it. If you support Obama think again.

Yes, ACTA is the work of all the evil in the world.

But unfortunately the alternative to Obama wears even darker horns, so Obama remains the country's only chance. I'm hoping to hear Obama score another double majority so that we might (FINALLY) get to see real reform; I've remained in Canada my entire childhood and education because of the healthcare (I just got free stitches last week simply by showing I.D.; mind you we still live in a "big brother" system, so my trip to the hospital and all of those details are 'fair game' to any Thought Police who may want to know) - but now I'm seriously considering a new life in New York or Michigan (with dual citizenship I could easily border hop for benefits anyway)

Another standpoint: ACTA IS HORRIBLE, but do really you think Obama's supreme court would convict anyone under the age of 30 (for anything less than hundreds of thousands of dollars)? Especially should another double majority occur? Posting something like a recipe - out of book - onto your blog amounts to *maybe* $12k worth of 'intellectual property damage' -- If someone with a law background can give a better estimate of some of the 'common situations' we've heard of (like music on a YouTube video), I'd love to hear it, because I don't think that most ACTA cases would amount to much more than Small Claims Court amounts (in Canada Small Claims can be up to $50k for corporate entities).

Edited by themetagame, 30 January 2012 - 10:30 PM.

[willy101]

time to move to a different country