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[Jun]

Ok, until now, i was feeling safe because i was using an elite proxy to stay safe, protecting my main. I was using several sites and all of them told my ip is the proxy im using. But today, i found out http://www.stayinvisible.com/, and what? It sees my original ip! I feel completly stupid now, TNT will see my main ip as well for sure. I didn't quite understand but i think it may be zombie cookies or something. Now aht should i do? Please someone save my ass -.-"

Ok some additional info:

According to http://checker.samair.ru/:

IP detected: x1.xx.xxx.xxx
Country: Click here to find out what country your proxy belongs to
Resume: You are using high-anonymous (elite) proxy (if you are using proxy).

According to http://www.whatismyip.com/:

Your IP Address Is: x1.xx.xxx.xxx No Proxy Detected
Read more: http://www.whatismyi.../#ixzz1kuiNSw4A

This is the proxy i use, and both sites tell me my ip is the proxy i use so i dont see a problem here, but..

According to http://www.stayinvisible.com/:


LOCATION & LANGUAGE
IP Address x1.xx.xxx.xxx
Additional IP x2.xx.xxx.xxx




WTF?

Edited by Junjun, 30 January 2012 - 04:05 AM.

[Russell]

Go with the majority of sites, chances are this one is very high-tech/much more than TNT will understand.

[Jun]

Russ, on 29 January 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Go with the majority of sites, chances are this one is very high-tech/much more than TNT will understand.

I hope so but still, this is not enough to make me feel completly safe. If anyone wants a spoiler what that site tells me, ill PM him. I need a serious help here.. Im not sure how that site sees my original ip..

[ImmaBoss]

Try the site hidemyass. Its a fairly good proxy site and it says Im using the proxy that I put when i go to that site

Edited by ImmaBoss, 29 January 2012 - 08:33 PM.

[Jun]

ImmaBoss, on 29 January 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Try the site hidemyass. Its a fairly good proxy site and it says Im using the proxy that I put when i go to that site

This is not helping, read what im typing first please. I already use an elite proxy from that site, the problem is when i test my ip on http://www.stayinvisible.com/, it sees my original ip as well. Non of the other sites have seen but this one!

EDIT: Anyone using proxies can check this page and see if it tells you your original ip as well? Im pretty sure im using an elite proxy. Not before i first logged to my ccheating account, but still i deleted all of my cookies and cache several times. Anyway, this may be the problem because i once, at the beginning, logged to neopets with the cheating account before i delete my cookies and cache. (I was still using an elite proxy though)

Edited by Junjun, 30 January 2012 - 04:06 AM.

[ImmaBoss]

Junjun, on 29 January 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

You are no use, read what im typing first.. I already use an elite proxy from that site, the problem is when i test my ip on http://www.stayinvisible.com/, it sees my original ip as well. Non of the other sites have seen but this one!

If you are using firefox with foxyproxy, all you need to do is select your default proxy and delete it from the list. You can add it again later if you need to. It sees your default as an additional ip

[Jun]

ImmaBoss, on 29 January 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

If you are using firefox with foxyproxy, all you need to do is select your default proxy and delete it from the list. You can add it again later if you need to. It sees your default as an additional ip

Man, i don't need basic proxy help here. I have an advanced problem, i'm not trying to learn proxies.. Just read my first post and you will see what i mean.

Edited by Junjun, 30 January 2012 - 04:07 AM.

[ImmaBoss]

Sorry for trying to help gl figuring out a solution to your problem

Edited by ImmaBoss, 29 January 2012 - 08:44 PM.

[Jun]

ImmaBoss, on 29 January 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Sorry for trying to help gl with your problem

Thanks, i see you are trying but im kinda sure you don't have an idea about what my problem is, still thanks..

[ImmaBoss]

This sight might help. Scroll down to the last paragraph. If it dosen't, I'll find another for you. http://www.helium.co...-to-delete-them

I take that back. Heres a 3 step guide to get rid of them http://www.whatsthel...-cookie-zombie/

[Jun]

ImmaBoss, on 29 January 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

This sight might help. Scroll down to the last paragraph. If it dosen't, I'll find another for you. http://www.helium.co...-to-delete-them

I take that back. Heres a 3 step guide to get rid of them http://www.whatsthel...-cookie-zombie/

For some reason, addon link is broken on this page, or it just wont let me load it.

[likerobots]

repost for future ref.

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TBH i don't think it matters that much. i have one main autobuying shell that i use transparent / anonymous free proxies on. i've SSed on it, trasnferred np/items between my main for ~8 months, and i'm alright.

and stop stressing, man, if you're going to ask for help, give boss some credit, he's trying at least.

[Russell]

likerobots, on 29 January 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

and stop stressing, man, if you're going to ask for help, give boss some credit, he's trying at least.

I can't even tell them apart...

[Strategist]

Yeah, don't stress so much about it man. I've run two abing accounts on the same IP for a couple years now. Still untouched. You're over-analysing the situation here.

[Jun]

I know Boss is trying, and i really appreciate it, thanks Boss

Also thanks guys for throwing cold water on me, but still, at least for future, id want to know how to hide my ip from that site as well. Any of you tried the site and checked if it sees your original ip as well?

[Russell]

Just seen the OP:

whatismyip.com:

Your IP Address Is: 212.159.115.206
No Proxy Detected

stayinvisible.com:

LOCATION & LANGUAGE
IP Address 212.159.115.206 United Kingdom, London
PlusNet Technologies Ltd DNS Server 212.159.6.136 United Kingdom
PlusNet Technologies Ltd IP Time Zone GMT-0000 Europe/London Language English Accepted Charsets ISO-8859-1, utf-8



My real IP is 192.168.#.#, or something.
I don't have a proxy or VPS.
'How do I do it?' I hear you say!
I have no fricking idea.

Edited by Russ, 29 January 2012 - 09:10 PM.

[likerobots]

Russ, on 29 January 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

I can't even tell them apart...

HAHA yeah the darigan pets awkward.

@jun, when i tried the stayinvisible site, it also found my true IP address, whereas the first two ip tracking sites only found the proxy IP
i was using a free anonymous proxy




ETA: wait wat russ, are you saying the sites both found the wrong IP ...

Edited by likerobots, 29 January 2012 - 09:18 PM.

[ImmaBoss]

Yeesh, that site just detects everything :-/ Your original ip is coming up as additional IP, right?

[Jun]

ImmaBoss, on 29 January 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Yeesh, that site just detects everything :-/ Your original ip is coming up as additional IP, right?

Yep, and i personally think its because of the zombie cookies, i installed the addon you mentioned but don't know how to use it to delete the zombie cookies.

[Senrath]

Russ, on 29 January 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

My real IP is 192.168.#.#, or something.
I don't have a proxy or VPS.
'How do I do it?' I hear you say!
I have no fricking idea.

That's not your real IP. That's your private IP, which only matters for computers that are on the exact same network as you. Your real IP is in fact what those websites said.

Edited by Senrath, 29 January 2012 - 09:56 PM.

[likerobots]

ImmaBoss, on 29 January 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Yeesh, that site just detects everything :-/ Your original ip is coming up as additional IP, right?

yup, that's what it's got.
keep in mind that at the beginning it does this examination of your web settings.
i'm not completely sure if neo can track your web settings as well as that site.

[ImmaBoss]

Ok. I have figured it out. Even if you have a high elite proxy, stayinvisible can still detect it because of zombie cookies. If you go to the adobe website, or use this link, http://www.macromedi..._manager07.html, then you can delete your zombie cookies. go to the website storage settings panel, and unclick Allow third-party flash content to store data on your computer. Then click Website storage settings panel and delete all sites. Now you have deleted all of your zombie cookies. stayinvisible.com makes NEW zombie cookies everytime you visit the site, so even if you delete them and go back in, it will just make more. But neopets does not keep track of these zombie cookies so there are no more once you complete the steps above. I also went into firefox and clicked tools and then click options. Once you are there, go to privacy and under tracking, check tell websites I do not want to be tracked. And for history, click use custom settings and uncheck Accept cookies from sites. This is how I did it Hope I helped

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Should I make a guide on this?

Edited by ImmaBoss, 29 January 2012 - 10:14 PM.

[Jun]

ImmaBoss, on 29 January 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Ok. I have figured it out. Even if you have a high elite proxy, stayinvisible can still detect it because of zombie cookies. If you go to the adobe website, or use this link, http://www.macromedi..._manager07.html, then you can delete your zombie cookies. go to the website storage settings panel, and unclick Allow third-party flash content to store data on your computer. Then click Website storage settings panel and delete all sites. Now you have deleted all of your zombie cookies. stayinvisible.com makes NEW zombie cookies everytime you visit the site, so even if you delete them and go back in, it will just make more. But neopets does not keep track of these zombie cookies so there are no more once you complete the steps above. I also went into firefox and clicked tools and then click options. Once you are there, go to privacy and under tracking, check tell websites I do not want to be tracked. And for history, click use custom settings and uncheck Accept cookies from sites. This is how I did it Hope I helped

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Should I make a guide on this?

Like i guessed. Other problem is, after deleting zombie cookies, TNT can still see our old actions before we delete them, so they can make a contact between the main and the cheating account. Also i wanna try this asap but i cant, because suddenly my grandpa got very sick, going to hospital now. Ill try this when i have time (probably within a couple of hours) and share the results. If it works, we can create a guide as well. Thanks for your hard work, all of you, and specially Boss.

likerobots, on 29 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

i'm not completely sure if neo can track your web settings as well as that site.

If a simple site does, why can't Neo? The question is this: Does TNT really "bothers" with tracking that deep?

EDIT: Also, i found the section that you have to do an unclick at Global Storage Settings Panel, which is different than Storage Settings Panel. Those panels are 2 different panels.And after unclicking it, http://www.stayinvisible.com/ can still see my other ip, hopefully like you said, TNT won't be able to see. Still wondering why this site can't see everybody's original ip but mine.. Thanks for your help and time (:

EDIT 2: When i uncheck "Accept cookies from sites", and try to login to any site, it acts like i didnt login..

Edited by Junjun, 30 January 2012 - 04:26 AM.

[tehnicaorg]

Jun, stayinvisible get's you additional IP (real IP) with these tricks:
- using Flash (which does not go through the proxy set in Firefox/foxyProxy), I think it uses the one set in IE (also used by Chrome). Try NoScript (this would _by default_ block JavaScript too)
- using Java (not Javascript – haven't tested this though)
- using DNS requests (go to about:config in Firefox and set network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to True)

For anonymity you should probably use a firewall and block any other connection except the ones that go through you proxy server (this may imply that some programs won't be able to access internet, like Windows Update).