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Is the world better with or without religion?

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#276 Mizk

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:04 AM

Religion divides more often than it unites, therefore I believe that a world without it would be better

Alternatively, everyone believing the same religion would accomplish the same thing, but then that would essentially be a world without religion as the "religion" in this case would more be a "fact"



#277 Galadriel

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:19 AM

Probably posted in this thread already, and if that is the case I am replacing my previous reply with:

 

The world isn't better or worse because of religion. I feel that religion is a way of interacting with the world around us- a lens which we look through. It is when people confuse religion with morals that things start to get messy. As far as I know, no religions preach violence or discrimination as their fundamental principles- religion is only coloured that way by humans who misunderstand the teachings because they are looking it at the wrong way.

 

It is people who fuck up things- not religion.



#278 wpsiatwin

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 06:08 AM

It is people who fuck up things- not religion.

 

 

Agreed. Its just like science, economics, gaming etc. 

 

And we see people from different gaming communities bashing each other. Communists bashing capitalists and vice versa. We, as a species, are mighty good at finding things to argue about, in essence our differences.

 

If we could learn to not give a shit about how other people are different from us, it wouldn't matter that they subscribe to a different brand of god. But because we can't, every difference between us creates a divide filled with resentment and conflict. 

 

So, to me, the question being asked is irrelevant. With or without religion, man will still fight amongst man. In the absence of a reason, man will invent one.



#279 jonis

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 04:25 AM

As long as religion is an individual belief I can definitely appreciate it. When it tries to tell non-believers what to do, well, then we could do without it.

 

But really, it's Impossible to answer. I can't say that North Korea has done much better without religion that we have with religion. And if people weren't fighting over religion we'd probably fight over something as trivial such as colour of clothes or something.

 

The world would probably be a much better place without man. But then we wouldn't be having this conversation. That, or we would all be some cool-looking animal instead like below.

 

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Edited by jonis, 25 June 2014 - 04:26 AM.


#280 Halcyon

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 04:10 PM

I'd really like to say without, but either way, the world will always try to find a way to screw itself. 



#281 Adam

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 04:12 PM

Revived --

Michigan House Passes Religious 'License To Discriminate' Bill

 

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act, akin to one that made nationwide headlines in Arizona but was vetoed, appears to merely force the government to step aside if a person's "deeply-held religious beliefs" mandate they act, or not act, in a certain manner.

Supporters of these bills claim they allow people of faith to exercise their religion without government interference, but in reality, they are trojan horses, allowing rampant discrimination under the guise of religious observance.

For example, under the Religious Freedom law, a pharmacist could refuse to fill a doctor's prescription for birth control, or HIV medication. An emergency room physician or EMT could refuse service to a gay person in need of immediate treatment. A school teacher could refuse to mentor the children of a same-sex couple, and a DMV clerk could refuse to give a driver's license to a person who is divorced. 

Sawce: http://www.thenewciv...scriminate_bill

 

Kind of stupid don'tcha think?



#282 Salade

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 04:32 AM

The basic idea of religion as a guide line how to treat your fellow humans is neat-o. What religious institutions made of those basic rules isn't very neat-o.

 

If you can practice your religion without harming others, if you can practice your lack of religion without harming others, it's all cool.



#283 vay

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 05:32 PM

Inconsequential. How easy it is to blame a belief system for the consequences of actions. Religion itself does not make the world better/worse, it is the actions that speak for themselves. I do believe religion is of certain importance, due to the fact that freedom in believing what you want is important and the positive values that many religions incorporate into the people that believe. Religion does not define world peace, wars, great events, bad events, etc. because it is the take that every individual has on his or her beliefs that changes the impact that is made on the world. Sure, religion is an influence on people's actions, but still, we humans have judgement too, a mind and values which dictate our actions, not religion. The world is at the mercy of the human free will more than religion. Religion itself is a concept detached from the person we really are, but again, it depends on the person to apply the values and beliefs of a religion into a positive/negative lifestyle. People can make anything of it.



#284 hamayun

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 02:12 AM

If here is no GoD!Then what is Magic who create this world what is tree fruit 🍉 vegetable and evil human animal human complex brain 😇😇

#285 Eagles

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 04:59 PM

with!!



#286 hamayun

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 01:40 AM

With?

#287 DogeWow

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 08:32 AM

For me. Better with religion.



#288 scornty

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 10:59 AM

If you define religion as 'unprovable set of beliefs about how the world works that people have', I think whether it should exist/not is a bad question. People will always their beliefs to some extent because they are very easily ignited. There was a study on how pigeons got superstitions from a machine that randomly gave out food. They would walk around/dance around the machine and when the machine hit a certain number it would drop food. So the pigeons made a connection that dancing in a certain way would make the machine drop food, even if it was a bad connection. If it's so easy for connections to be made then humans will find some way for it to continue to exist, or find a way to make a new set of superstitions that become a religion unless you change how brains work fundamentally.

 

Religion is a thing that brings people together, so people want it to exist too which helps. 



#289 Brandenburg75

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 01:50 PM

I think religion is definitely beneficial. Coming from a person who grew up in a theistic family who went to a lot of different churches at different times I can say there are a good number of truly awful people who would do terrible terrible things if the imaginary bearded father figure in the sky wasn't "watching" them sin.

 

Yes religion causes problems but as Karl Marx once said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" it help a certain set of people from breaking down as it numbs any number of harsh realities, as well as numbing truly awful people in to a fearful stupor. Good people don't require god in order to be good. Bad people don't require the devil to be bad. But some truly bad people are kept in check by the thought of a final judgement, these bad people are usually mentally unbalanced so actual reality means little to them. 

 

I also think religion is detrimental. People use religion to sway large numbers of ignorant people in to being their pawns. They use it to justify on the personal level decisions that should have nothing to do with religion, and in general grind human progress to a near standstill in some sectors. And worse the bad people from the previous statement use their thousand year old book to justify their own hate and to bolster their own feeling of superiority. In some parts of the world these really old books are even used to justify some truly horrendous things.

 

As for how the scale falls. Only time will tell.


Edited by Brandenburg75, 25 July 2018 - 01:52 PM.



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