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#1 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:29 AM

I am only going to autobuy in magic until I get frozen. What follows is my log:

Settings:
pre-haggle + OCR < 0.75
Refresh rate: 2-4 seconds
Attic: 0.5 - 1

Some may view these settings as "Suicide" especially in a high profile shop such as magic.

May 14th:
6 hours overnight: 2 unbuyables only. Profit: 1m
Running again now
4 Unbuyables so far. Profit: 600k
Missed Royal Boy Kyrii Morphing Potion: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 3920441 NP)
Changed buy times to <0.75[

Total profit so far: 1.6m
Total buys: 6
Of which were attic: 3
Profit from attic: 400k
Profit from magic: 1.2m

Edit: Frozen
Buys with 1.5 = 6
Buys with <0.75 = 0
Buys with <0.1 = 0

Edited by Metigue, 14 May 2012 - 11:05 AM.


#2 Keil

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:31 AM

If you're going to suicide, expecting to be frozen definitely, suicide HARD.

Those times, in my opinion, are borderline professional legit player times.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:32 AM

Yeah, put them as low as possible, and wait until the next HPD. :)

#4 Nymh

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:35 AM

I agree with Keil

Prehaggle + OCR should be sub 1000ms IMO if you're doing this expecting to be frozen anyway.

#5 kevin11022

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:37 AM

May I ask you if you can post the buy time after buying them?
Cause pre-haggle + OCR depend on one's connection speed
, buy time will be more helpful than pre-haggle + OCR.

#6 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:38 AM

I want to dispel the theory that you can't autobuy in magic with fastish times, this is less actual suicide and more (Hopefully) Attempted but failed suicide ;)

May I ask you if you can post the buy time after buying them?
Cause pre-haggle + OCR depend on one's connection speed
, buy time will be more helpful than pre-haggle + OCR.


My buytimes vary massively depending on what I'm doing at the time, so it wouldn't really help, It's generally from 0.8 - 3 seconds

Edited by Metigue, 14 May 2012 - 07:41 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:35 AM

800ms doesn't even constitute suicide in my opinion. I had buy times from 700-1000ms and lasted two weeks...

#8 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:38 AM

800ms doesn't even constitute suicide in my opinion. I had buy times from 700-1000ms and lasted two weeks...


my attic buy times are closer to 300ms.

Edited by Metigue, 14 May 2012 - 08:39 AM.


#9 trizzle

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:41 AM

Haha you guys are lucky, with my internet I probably couldn't even suicide if I wanted to :p

#10 Yung

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:00 AM

I like that there is this much testing being done though, it will help us better determine what sets off flags.

#11 Cythose

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:03 AM

This is hardly a suicide run, I do this on a daily basis :<

#12 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:06 AM

Ok, in the true nature of suicide I have HALFED my times. (I was missing so many items)
my total time is now <0.75

This is hardly a suicide run, I do this on a daily basis :<

You will be frozen (Unless you're doing certain Private methods)

Edited by Metigue, 14 May 2012 - 09:09 AM.


#13 Cythose

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:10 AM

Not exactly I been AB'ing for about 10m-30m a day for the past 2 months. Only been chained once...

#14 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:12 AM

Not exactly I been AB'ing for about 10m-30m a day for the past 2 months. Only been chained once...


Then you're using some private methods ( Which I am aware of, but I'm not doing on this account, which is why it's suicide ;) )

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:14 AM

Haha you guys are lucky, with my internet I probably couldn't even suicide if I wanted to :p


lol same here, I even tried it at uni, did fuck all.

Anyway I agree, if you're expecting to be frozen, go lower.

#16 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:16 AM

lol same here, I even tried it at uni, did fuck all.

Anyway I agree, if you're expecting to be frozen, go lower.


If I miss 5 more potions in a row I'm going to lower to 0.1 max ocr + prehaggle time.

#17 Cythose

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:16 AM

Nah I just lowered my settings really low to see how easily I can get banned. It never happened so I just continued :<

#18 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:18 AM

Nah I just lowered my settings really low to see how easily I can get banned. It never happened so I just continued :<

You may have stumbled upon a well guarded secret, alternatively you could have just avoided their flags due to either luck or displaying a natural improvement curve.

#19 Cythose

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:21 AM

Got a question though :c would sucide running on a weekend differ from a weekday? From what I been told TnT doesn't exactly work on weekends :/

#20 trizzle

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:24 AM

Got a question though :c would sucide running on a weekend differ from a weekday? From what I been told TnT doesn't exactly work on weekends :/

That's what I've always wondered.

Then again I was frozen on a weekend for score sending so maybe some people stay in or they have freeze bots? -_- Dumb tnt, I miss partykrawk the pirate krawk :'(

#21 Metigue

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:09 AM

Wtf, I lowered my settings to <0.01 and I haven't been able to buy anything.. All sold out. :|

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:13 AM

competeting against other autobuyers? Idk I had to switch my shit lower just to ab in books cause everything is getting sold out and my buy times are usually 1310ms

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:23 AM

Wtf, I lowered my settings to <0.01 and I haven't been able to buy anything.. All sold out. :|


Not to brag but between Laura and me it's really hard to get anything in the attic that's above 5m. She's insanely good and competing with her for the past month has driven me to go above and beyond to find methods to compete. When I said 700-1000ms I meant in main shop. My attic buy times at university were EXTREMELY fast. Now that I'm home it's required a bit more tweaking but I've still gotten RDE,BDE, ZDAP(s), and a few stamps. AA is not a fun place to compete. Laura isn't even in AA for the next 15 days.

Edit: Person above me main shop is trickier. The refresh rate plays in as well as buy times. Just because you buy at 1000ms doesn't mean my refresh 1 second before you can't let me buy the item. If I refresh at T = 0.0 and have a buy time of 1500ms and you refresh at T = 800ms with buy time 1000ms I'll still get the item.

Edited by Shrouded, 14 May 2012 - 10:25 AM.


#24 trizzle

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:26 AM

Not to brag but between Laura and me it's really hard to get anything in the attic that's above 5m. She's insanely good and competing with her for the past month has driven me to go above and beyond to find methods to compete. When I said 700-1000ms I meant in main shop. My attic buy times at university were EXTREMELY fast. Now that I'm home it's required a bit more tweaking but I've still gotten RDE,BDE, ZDAP(s), and a few stamps. AA is not a fun place to compete. Laura isn't even in AA for the next 15 days.

Edit: Person above me main shop is trickier. The refresh rate plays in as well as buy times. Just because you buy at 1000ms doesn't mean my refresh 1 second before you can't let me buy the item. If I refresh at T = 0.0 and have a buy time of 1500ms and you refresh at T = 800ms with buy time 1000ms I'll still get the item.


Wow you guys are good! Wherabouts do you and Laura live? (I mean in regards to the neopets servers) :)

#25 Nymh

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 10:26 AM

Laura isn't even in AA for the next 15 days.


Sharing her secrets, huh?

*quietly logs into VPS*


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