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[8143FF763271]

That'd make as much sense as an abolitionist slave owner.

[Sweeney]

Define housewife.
Define feminist.

[Waser Lave]

What about lesbian housewives?

[Rainie]

That's great to know.

[PuzzleWarrior]

You talk about stepford housewives?

[MysteryMunch]

LOL... no. Just no.

[Waser Lave]

He didn't do a very good job with this one.

[Mishatu]

I disagree with your definitions.

[Sweeney]

Especially since penis owners can also be feminists.

[Waser Lave]

Especially since penis owners can also be feminists.

Gay.

[Drakonid]

Penis owning feminists have no backbone.

[8143FF763271]

Housewife is someone that does mainly menial tasks at home while being financially supported by her husband.

Feminist is someone that rejects the gender based conventions and restriction of patriarchal society.

I guess he wasn't getting anywhere with trying to out debate someone with a penis, so he figured he'd try to irritate the women here.



Good luck, you're going to need it.

That's pretty sexist.

[Waser Lave]

Housewife is someone that does mainly menial tasks at home while being financially supported by her husband.

Why do they need a husband?

[Sweeney]

So why can't a woman choose to reject the gender-based conventions and restrictions of patriarchal society, and also enjoy being a housewife?

[Josh]

Your wrong.

[8143FF763271]

So why can't a woman choose to reject the gender-based conventions and restrictions of patriarchal society, and also enjoy being a housewife?

Because she's perpetuating those very conventions and restrictions through her life choices.

[Waser Lave]

*Awaits the long-winded ridiculous argument which will continue until everybody else gets bored*

Edit: It has begun.

Because she's perpetuating those very conventions and restrictions through her life choices.

You seem to have missed my questions out.

[8143FF763271]

The entirety of patriarchal society is based around the concept of a housewife. There's something intrinsically flawed between saying you're a feminist and accepting what patriarchy is, in essence, all about.

*Awaits the long-winded ridiculous argument which will continue until everybody else gets bored*

Edit: It has begun.



You seem to have missed my questions out.

laffs

[Sweeney]

Because she's perpetuating those very conventions and restrictions through her life choices.

Not if they're her fully informed choices. Which they are, in this hypothetical example.

So you're wrong.

[Drakonid]

Are you actually going to give up being a douchebag, or do we have to suffer your bullshit until you get bored?

You achieve absolutely nothing with this, you're better off just ignoring him.

[Waser Lave]

You achieve absolutely nothing with this, you're better off just ignoring him.

Done.

Posts by idiots here have become as regular as prune juice-obsessed irritable bowel syndrome sufferers.

[Drakonid]

Done.

Using the ignore feature is not the same as actually ignoring someone.

[Waser Lave]

Using the ignore feature is not the same as actually ignoring someone.

I bet kami could prove you wrong in fewer than 5000 individual posts.

[8143FF763271]

Not if they're her fully informed choices. Which they are, in this hypothetical example.

So you're wrong.

When you're a feminist, you're making a political stance. Not an individual one. Being a slave owner may be a fully informed choice that you benefit fully from, but don't pretend that you will be considered an ally of the abolitionist cause when you actively benefit from it and accept it in your life. You may like being a housewife and you may choose to do it, but it doesn't change what the institution of the housewife is, the conventions its based on, and the power dynamic that it perpetuates.

The gender expectations we have on women, their beauty standards, their sexual restrictions, our perception of their skills and abilities- they're all based on one thing, and it's the role of the house wife. Everything in patriarchal society can be traced back to the construction of the monogamous stay-at-home wife. Y'all can't call yourself feminists and play along with patriarchy at the same damn time.

[Drakonid]

Betting on yourself?