You don't believe in altruism.
I wouldn't bother.
Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:26 AM
You don't believe in altruism.
Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:27 AM
Does that mean I have an ulterior motive in hugging people?You don't believe in altruism.
Posted 01 September 2012 - 01:11 PM
Femininity would be defined by passivity, succorance, sensitivity, empathy, naivette, weakness, "being emotional", being "intuitive", submissiveness, compassion, and gentleness.
Edited by ae19, 01 September 2012 - 01:13 PM.
Posted 01 September 2012 - 01:45 PM
Feminist here.
Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:26 PM
Well, I don't know if the topic's owner meant that, but I think that neither women nor men are born with any trait. Oh, but... They may feel what's going on outside the uterus, mainly to the mother. Still, it doesn't mean that the baby will have his personality all formed in the uterus. And not even outside it. The baby can be influenced by a good portion of things, so that different babies have different reactions to the same situation. And there's no proof that women are born different from men regarding their gender, as if there is no proof regarding the Horoscope.So if femininity is unnatural, are you arguing that women are, by nature, active, cold, lacking in empathy, wise, strong, unemotional, disintuitive, dominant, lacking in compassion, and rough? Are these the "normal" traits that patriarchy has conditioned us out of?
Is it natural or unnatural for a man to possess these (feminine) traits?
Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:25 PM
Posted 26 September 2012 - 04:24 PM
Can you prove women are born like that?Femininity is a social construct made within patriarchal society that is both unnatural (women aren't born like that) and socially dysfunctional (it serves us for nothing).
Can you prove that it's a social construct? Can you prove it's unnatural? Can you prove women aren't born like that?
It isn't encouraged, it's kind of forced.Being "feminine" shouldn't be encouraged and women's adherence to the behaviour associated with such a dreadful concept is part of why we have yet to reach gender equality.
Why shouldn't they be? Can you explain this? Also, please explain why it is a dreadful concept.
Because there's nothing wrong with it if you really enjoy it... But there are people that don't really do.I like being feminine. I'm an independent woman. But I often wear heels, makeup, use a and cigarette holder while wearing bright red lipstick. I see nothing wrong with it. Women as well as men should definitely take pride in their appearance. Gender identity is not linear, it is fluid. Do some research.
Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:10 PM
It isn't encouraged, it's kind of forced.
And why they shouldn't be? Because it means a woman must be permissive, can't get what she really wants because of someone else's wishes, can't be strong because they would threaten others.
Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:16 PM
Amen brother.You assume that everybody still has this backwards way of thinking.
Move past it already. You cling to an outdated definition of femininity.
Being feminine no longer holds a subjugated connotation.
Most men would rather have a strong partner by their side then someone that will whatever they order them to.
I want someone strong enough for me to rely on. Everyone does.
Edited by Mew, 26 September 2012 - 05:16 PM.
Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:27 PM
Believe me, it's not that outdated. I've heard of tons and tons of examples of women who had to deal with people who thought this way, even though they didn't realize it. I'm not saying everybody does. But I think that, at least, many people doesn't assume it or realize it. How many times have I heard that a woman that was being harassed and didn't correspond to it nicely like a submissive little girl was called a cold bitch? Uh, I dunno, maybe many?You assume that everybody still has this backwards way of thinking.
Move past it already. You cling to an outdated definition of femininity.
Being feminine no longer holds a subjugated connotation.
Most men would rather have a strong partner by their side then someone that will whatever they order them to.
I want someone strong enough for me to rely on. Everyone does.
Edited by Kashi, 26 September 2012 - 05:28 PM.
Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:38 PM
Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:41 PM
You kind of agreed with me.Believe me, it's not that outdated.
I'd much rather be a "cold bitch" then have some creepy person hit on me or feel me up.How many times have I heard that a woman that was being harassed and didn't correspond to it nicely like a submissive little girl was called a cold bitch? Uh, I dunno, maybe many?
Edited by Ivysaur, 26 September 2012 - 05:41 PM.
Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:48 PM
This. Guys always consider me aloof and frigid. It's friggin' annoying. And when they don't get anything from you they say you're a lesbian >__>I'd much rather be a "cold bitch" then have some creepy person hit on me or feel me up.
Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:15 AM
This. Guys always consider me aloof and frigid. It's friggin' annoying. And when they don't get anything from you they say you're a lesbian >__>
wow, whoops sorry for generalisation... but the guys i know always say that.
Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:46 PM
Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:59 PM
this kind of behaviour exhibited by men - attempts at classifying and telling women what they are/should be - is the APEX of patriarchal oppression. you posting this thread has proved how inherently sexist you are.
(i know i'm feeding the troll and that he can't even see this but ugh)
Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:37 PM
Edited by MoshZombie, 07 October 2012 - 10:39 PM.
Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:28 PM
Edited by Shirwinator, 28 October 2012 - 09:30 PM.
Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:03 PM
After establishing that femininity is a social construct (it is), it's unintelligent to say someone is using an outdated definition of femininity on the internet: a form that has a collective of members from a plethora of varied cultural backgroundsMove past it already. You cling to an outdated definition of femininity.
Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:57 PM
Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:06 PM
Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:08 PM
After establishing that femininity is a social construct (it is), it's unintelligent to say someone is using an outdated definition of femininity on the internet: a form that has a collective of members from a plethora of varied cultural backgrounds
Edited by Ivysaur, 28 December 2012 - 03:50 PM.
Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:41 AM
If there are people out there that are unable to stand up for themselves (especially if they are in the right and don't have to fear repercussions) then that is their fault.
It is not a "female" thing. It is a fact of life.
If you are weak, you will be taken advantage of. You cannot expect special treatment on the grounds that you are a woman.
Grow a pair of steel ovaries.
...seriously, some threads and topics should die.
Posted 28 December 2012 - 10:35 AM
Holy fuck. This is the worst shit I've ever heard from you. I don't think it's very nice to tell victims of rape and sexual harassment that it's their own fault for being weak.
Edited by Ivysaur, 28 December 2012 - 10:36 AM.
Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:08 AM
I was referring to women that don't stand up for themselves because it isn't considered a "feminine" thing to do.
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