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#1 artificial

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:49 PM

Why was he banned? Because staff disliked him? How petty is that.

Personally I found his posts refreshing, and were a decent change from the usual robotic dribble most other members churn out. If this is a new banning criteria shouldn't scrubs like iargue have been banned long ago?

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:50 PM

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:24 AM

Don't ruin this moment for me!
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:08 AM

He was an arrogant ass whom I'm sure broke the rules many times.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:10 AM

He was an arrogant ass whom I'm sure broke the rules many times.


Well as long as you're sure.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:13 AM

He was only here to troll and cause problems and according to the rules "trolling is not welcome at Neocodex".

It was a similar situation to that of Nunc and Maharanya (I think that's how it's spelled). They were also trolls who were given more than enough chances to change their behaviour but they continued to break the rules and were subsequently banned for it.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:32 AM

Cyo was best troll. We won't remember this person in 6/7 weeks time

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:09 AM

Good riddance

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:41 AM

Cyo was best troll. We won't remember this person in 6/7 weeks time


Cyo was a troll? *gasp*
But he's so awesome........ this can't be.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:03 AM

Did you see him with his pipe? So classy!

#11 Galadriel

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:45 AM

He was an arrogant ass whom I'm sure broke the rules many times.


The same can be said for certain members of staff. For example: Waser sharing Khaligula's personal information. This is obviously intimidation and if someone can get warned for saying "you dumb fuck", SURELY this deserves a warn too?

Don't be silly, of course it doesn't. Why doesn't it? Because a member of staff did it. In every instance of his apparent trolling, there was at least one staff member out of line, turning the situation into what it became.

Pity that the staff has become of a circle jerk of arrogant asses.

Wank wank.

Edited by cronus, 04 October 2012 - 03:52 AM.


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:54 AM

The same can be said for certain members of staff. For example: Waser sharing Khaligula's personal information. This is obviously intimidation and if someone can get warned for saying "you dumb fuck", SURELY this deserves a warn too?

Don't be silly, of course it doesn't. Why doesn't it? Because a member of staff did it. In every instance of his apparent trolling, there was at least one staff member out of line, turning the situation into what it became.

Pity that the staff has become of a circle jerk of arrogant asses.

Wank wank.


Nice to know what you really think mate....

#13 Galadriel

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:55 AM

Nice to know what you really think mate....


I should have placed more emphasis on "certain members of staff". :p

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:57 AM

Did you see him with his pipe? So classy!


Of course, I was the one who screen capped it lul ;)

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:03 AM

I should have placed more emphasis on "certain members of staff". :p


You should also note that staff is not immune to being warned for actions they may undertake either. Look at Nymh and Waser previously, both of whom have had warns whilst being on staff. Just because nothing has been done about it this time (so far) doesn't mean that any staff member is 'favoured' by the admins. I was not present earlier when all of this was happening so I cannot comment further about any actions the staff members involved have taken.

To be honest, I had no dealings with Khaligula as I chose not to bother reading through the mindless tripe he was posting. But that's me, not everyone else.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:06 AM

The same can be said for certain members of staff. For example: Waser sharing Khaligula's personal information. This is obviously intimidation and if someone can get warned for saying "you dumb fuck", SURELY this deserves a warn too?

Don't be silly, of course it doesn't. Why doesn't it? Because a member of staff did it. In every instance of his apparent trolling, there was at least one staff member out of line, turning the situation into what it became.

Pity that the staff has become of a circle jerk of arrogant asses.

Wank wank.


You are such a complainer. The problem was dealt with. The staff members have been reprimanded appropriately, and the offending information has been removed.

Everyone is human. Being staff does not remove the fact that we are going to be assholes sometimes too. That doesn't mean we sit around jerking each other off all the time. As you have no idea what goes on in the reports, PMs and IRC among ourselves I think you're not an accurate judge of what we do behind the scenes or how we deal with staff issues.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:12 AM

Well as long as you're sure.


I didn't ban him, did I?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:13 AM

You are such a complainer. The problem was dealt with. The staff members have been reprimanded appropriately, and the offending information has been removed.

Everyone is human. Being staff does not remove the fact that we are going to be assholes sometimes too. That doesn't mean we sit around jerking each other off all the time. As you have no idea what goes on in the reports, PMs and IRC among ourselves I think you're not an accurate judge of what we do behind the scenes or how we deal with staff issues.


So posting someone's personal information warrants a scolding whilst mild cases of flaming such as "go fuck yourself" result in a 10% warn? That is both laughable and pathetic. Sure everyone is human, staff make mistakes too. I get that, but if it is against the rules, they should be dealt with accordingly- in the same way other members are dealth with.

The fact that you distinguish "staff issues" from member issues in general proves my point that staff and general members are clearly not dealt with in the same way.

Edited by cronus, 04 October 2012 - 04:14 AM.


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:17 AM

So posting someone's personal information warrants a scolding whilst mild cases of flaming such as "go fuck yourself" result in a 10% warn? That is both laughable and pathetic. Sure everyone is human, staff make mistakes too. I get that, but if it is against the rules, they should be dealt with accordingly- in the same way other members are dealth with.

The fact that you distinguish "staff issues" from member issues in general, proves my point that staff and general members are clearly not dealt with in the same way.


Except that I didn't post or compile anybody's personal information nor was it my intention to intimidate him so you're mistaken on both of those claims. Of course, it wouldn't be quite so dramatic to stick with the actual truth so I don't blame you for trying to jump on a bandwagon (again). ;)

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:17 AM

So posting someone's personal information warrants a scolding whilst mild cases of flaming such as "go fuck yourself" result in a 10% warn? That is both laughable and pathetic. Sure everyone is human, staff make mistakes too. I get that, but if it is against the rules, they should be dealt with accordingly- in the same way other members are dealth with.

The fact that you distinguish "staff issues" from member issues in general proves my point that staff and general members are clearly not dealt with in the same way.


Distinguishing them for what they are, "staff issues," does not necessitate that they are treated differently. The issue was discussed, the offending material was removed, and he was reprimanded. We give members verbal warns all the time for things big and small. Not every offense gets a formal warn.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:21 AM

Except that I didn't post or compile anybody's personal information nor was it my intention to intimidate him so you're mistaken on both of those claims. Of course, it wouldn't be quite so dramatic to stick with the actual truth so I don't blame you for trying to jump on a bandwagon (again). ;)


You posted a link to his personal information, stating that it contained his information. If you didn't mean to intimidate him, what was your intention?

Distinguishing them for what they are, "staff issues," does not necessitate that they are treated differently. The issue was discussed, the offending material was removed, and he was reprimanded. We give members verbal warns all the time for things big and small. Not every offense gets a formal warn.


Ok, thank you for clearing that up. When will the rules be adapted to reflect this?

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:29 AM

You posted a link to his personal information, stating that it contained his information. If you didn't mean to intimidate him, what was your intention?


I was merely pointing out to him that he has a history of pissing people off so he couldn't be quite as perfect as he claimed to be. My intention was counterpointing, not intimidation. Also, that information is in the public domain and was found on the first page of results on google so I'm well within my right to post a link to it in a discussion with him.

It seems you're more interested in trying to simulate Artificial than you are with understanding context. :)

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:39 AM

I was merely pointing out to him that he has a history of pissing people off so he couldn't be quite as perfect as he claimed to be. My intention was counterpointing, not intimidation. Also, that information is in the public domain and was found on the first page of results on google so I'm well within my right to post a link to it in a discussion with him.

It seems you're more interested in trying to simulate Artificial than you are with understanding context. :)


Goes from "I didn't do it" to "that isn't why I did it"...OK. It was inappropriate and didn't serve any purpose as 'counterpointing'.

Well I guess I am done here. You lot enjoy your circle jerk.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:43 AM

Ok, thank you for clearing that up. When will the rules be adapted to reflect this?


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Section 4 - Intellectual Property and Leaking
4.1 - Do not label others' work as your own. If you submit a program, source code snippet, graphic/image, or tutorial that wasn't made by you, you will acknowledge the author with proper recognition. You also must have the authors' permission to post the item on our board.
  • 4.1.1 - For all offenses, removal of the infringing content and a 10% warn will incur if proper recognition is not provided.
4.2 - NeoCodex does not tolerate people who leak advanced/retired member information. Any information gained is meant for private and personal use. Do not share, distribute, and/or give any information, programs, tutorials, or 'private' material. Information is to stay in its corresponding area.
  • 4.2.1 - For mild offenses, such as leaking MP/Lenny answers, or voting decisions of small importance, the offending person will be given a 10% warn, and be put on probation, or lose their position/privilege if appropriate. Any re-offense in a two month period will instantly result in them losing their position or privilege and another 10% warn.
  • 4.2.2 - For severe offenses, such as leaking critical source code, 'trade secrets', voting decisions of signficant importance, etc.., the offending person will lose their position/privilege, and a 30% warn given.
Section 5 - Flaming and Harassment
5.1 - Do not be cruel, hateful or hurtful to other members. Do not harass other members. Harassment includes, but is not limited to, any type of sexual, mental, forceful, and/or physical harassment.
  • 5.1.1 - Mild cases (ie. "GTFO", "go fuck yourself", etc..): Offensive material will be removed and 10% will be issued.
  • 5.1.2 - Severe or recurring cases of flaming and/or harassment will result in the material being removed and 20% warn issued.
5.2 - Neocodex do not tolerate any type of discrimination. This includes, but is not limited to, any form of racism, sexism, and/or stereotyping of any group.
  • 5.2.1 - Light forms of discrimination (ie. "Americans are stupid.") will be dealt with by having the post removed and a verbal warn issued via. PM. Any repeat offenses will result in 10% warn.
  • 5.2.2 - More severe forms of discrimination will be dealt with by removing the offending material and a warn of at least 10% issued.
5.3 - Public complaints about members will not be tolerated. It is expected that any problems with specific members or staff will be reported to a superior of that member, such as a moderator or an administrator.
  • 5.3.1 - Disruptive and/or obnoxious dissent against a member, or against staff will be removed and a notification via. PM will be sent with information on how the complaint can be dealt with internally.
  • 5.3.2 - Repeated offences will result in a 10% warn and subsequent removal of the offending content.
5.4 - Trolling is not welcome at Neocodex.
  • 5.4.1 - Ubuntu Forums describes these folk quite nicely. Don't give them any attention, because they will eventually lead you to break some of the other rules listed here (especially ones in Section 5).
  • 5.4.2 - These people are known to slip on occasion, and break either 5.1, 5.2, or 5.3 eventually. If you really don't like them that much, put them on your ignored user list and wait for them to slip. Then, report them to staff. Harassment will definitely result in you being punished, not the troll.
  • 5.4.3 - Debate these very obnoxious people at your own risk; they are definitely known for their deliberate defiance of logic and reason.
5.5 - Providing intentionally false or misleading information about the services of Neocodex to other users is not allowed.
  • 5.5.1 - Neocodex members rely on community input regarding the use of services available on the site (such as how to effectively use the programs, and what users get as part of an advanced member subscription). It is important that users not provide false information to other members in a way that is somehow destructive or misleading.
  • 5.5.2 - Intentionally breaking this rule (ie. providing destructive advice on how to use programs, falsely stating the benefits of purchasing an advanced member subscription, etc.) will result in a minimum 30% warn, depending on the severity/impact of the offence.
* Notice the subtlety that sometimes exists between expressing a backed-up opinion, and discriminating/flaming. You can almost always form a post into something that is not offensive, but gets your point across. Use some tact, and you will lessen your chance of get punished. With that said, we understand that Section 5 of our rules is filled with subjective decisions. The moderators will likely follow past precedents as a guide, but help us out by not pushing the line.

Section 6 - Advertising
6.1 - There will be no advertisements for selling/buying in the status updates area of the board. This is to be kept for personal status updates not related to trades only. Keep the trading in the Trading Post.
  • 6.1.1 - Failure to follow this will result in the status update being removed and a PM notification sent. Re-offence will result in the ability for status updates to be taken away, and 10% warn.
6.2 - There is to be no explicit advertising of other sites unless explicit permission from the Administration is granted. Any form of advertisement must be approved by Staff.
  • 6.2.1 - Any advertisements not approved by staff will be removed, and a PM notice will be sent. Re-posting the advertisement without prior approval from staff will result in a 10% warn and re-removal.
Section 7 - Accounts
7.1 - Members agree not to, in any way, "share" their account with another member. Rankings do not matter; sharing of accounts is strictly non-permissible. Neocodex does not let you own more than one account due to security and organizational purposes (unless you have a valid excuse).
  • 7.1.1 - Duplicate accounts will likely be investigated by staff, and are subject to deletion. Being a previously banned member will earn you another ban.
  • 7.1.2 - Sharing of accounts for the purposes of sharing higher privileges (such as advanced member access) will be considered an offence of rule 4.2, and action 4.2.2 will be taken on the user. Please note that doing this is also a violation of the TOS that you agree to if purchasing a subscription, so therefore, no compensation will be issued for subscribers.
  • 7.1.3 - Creating duplicate accounts in a disruptive way, or a way that bypasses an account restriction (such as trading post privileges or a suspension) will earn you 30% warn per instance, and an extension of your suspension if applicable.
Section 8 - Warn Policy
8.1 - The maximum achievable warn is 100%, after which an automatic ban will be issued.
  • 8.1.1 - Reach 100% warn, and your account will be permanently banned for repeated misconduct.
8.2 - Warns will decay slowly over time.
  • 8.2.1 - For every 30 days that a warn is not incurred, 10% warn will be removed from the account automatically.
8.3 - The following suspension policy will apply to any warns applied to a user's account:

10% - [No Suspension]
20% - 12 hour
30% - 1 day (+12 hours if going from 20% to 30%)
40% - 2 day (+1 day if going from 30% to 40%)
50% - 4 day (+2 day if going from 40% to 50%)
60% - 8 day (+4 day if going from 50% to 60%)
70% - 12 day (+4 day if going from 60% to 70%)
80% - 14 day (+2 day if going from 70% to 80%)
90% - 21 day (+7 day if going from 80% to 90%)
100% - [Ban]



I think the rules make it pretty clear that issues are brought to the member personally first in most instances. In cases of repeat offenses, and/or when someone already has a warn under their belt for the same such violation, we tend to go straight for the warn.

Goes from "I didn't do it" to "that isn't why I did it"...OK. It was inappropriate and didn't serve any purpose as 'counterpointing'.

Well I guess I am done here. You lot enjoy your circle jerk.


He said that he didn't actually post his information; he posted a link to his information which was compiled by someone else, and the reason he did so was not the reason you cited. Why do you feel it's your responsibility to discepline our staff? Do you not think we do it ourselves?

#25 Galadriel

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:44 AM


I know I just said I was done, but this level of ignorance irks me to no end. How can someone be allowed to post someone's personal information, such as personal emails and phone numbers, without even receiving a 10% warn when someone someone receives that level warning for saying "go fuck yourself".

Common staff, stop acting like you actually believe that is justified. It makes you look spineless.


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