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[ShadowLink64]

For those of you who frequently visit Neocodex, but aren't particularly interested in the products and services that we offer, what are your reasons?

[Scot]

Came here for some booty

[Kyle]

I COME for the porn, but I stay for the atmosphere

[Dazz]

The drama yo

[Yung]

You get to the point you try and quit yet you come back every damn day to "see what's happening."

[trizzle]

The company

[Josh]

Neocodex helped me learn a lot when I was younger, so I try to give back That and I like the community, some pretty good memories here.

[tri]

I cam for the programs because they were free to use not initially to chat and help but then I decided to chat and liked it. =) I also think Codex is more friendlier then other Neopets cheating sites. Also like the design of the forum which makes it easier to navigate.

Edited by Tristen, 08 October 2012 - 01:40 PM.

[Keil]

1. The NeoCash Cards offered on in the store and from the Trading Post here.
2. A good laugh from reading the strayed arguments and people.
3. NeoCodex is a better community than any Neopets guild

[Yung]

3. NeoCodex is a better community than any Neopets guild

That's prophetic right there.

[ShadowLink64]

This.

I came initially for the programs, then stayed because I liked it, then I found myself really disliking the way some people act around here and I began to notice the little cliques which really just turned it around for me.
Now I try and stay away, but it's become a habit. I keep saying I'll take a break/hiatus from Codex but I need to find a new habit first that doesn't involve me getting irritated each time I come on over.

This is interesting. I now want to steer the conversation to the below point:

Hydrogen, Pyro699 and I were talking just now about how we don't like the forum as it exists right now. We believe that the forum's main purpose should provide a support role to the products and services that we offer. Instead, we spend a good chunk of time dealing with some people's dramatic behaviour and encouraging a community that is rather dysfunctional in our eyes. A good portion of these people don't even have any interest in what we do here -- only to cause trouble, or "stir the shit".

Why should we bother with this anymore? After all, we know from our work a couple years ago that if we make quality products, people will come. We would have something that they cannot get anywhere else. No giveaways or community events are going to coerce as many people to come as having quality products will.

[Waser Lave]

Hydrogen, Pyro699 and I were talking just now about how we don't like the forum as it exists right now. We believe that the forum's main purpose should provide a support role to the products and services that we offer.

That's not a community.

[Adam]

I suppose I come around mostly for nostalgia. I've known quite a few of the folks on the forum for many years and it's nice to reminisce about the good ole' day. Another thing I find interesting is seeing those people who were around the age of 15 when we came onto the scene, being 'grown up' now and have a husband/wife with kids. I've known a few of the people on here for about 7 years now, maybe longer due to my membership on 3vo predating my membership here.

[ShadowLink64]

That's not a community.

Very good.

[Josh]

This is interesting. I now want to steer the conversation to the below point:

Hydrogen, Pyro699 and I were talking just now about how we don't like the forum as it exists right now. We believe that the forum's main purpose should provide a support role to the products and services that we offer. Instead, we spend a good chunk of time dealing with some people's dramatic behaviour and encouraging a community that is rather dysfunctional in our eyes. A good portion of these people don't even have any interest in what we do here -- only to cause trouble, or "stir the shit".

Why should we bother with this anymore? After all, we know from our work a couple years ago that if we make quality products, people will come. We would have something that they cannot get anywhere else. No giveaways or community events are going to coerce as many people to come as having quality products will.

This is something I've pondered for awhile as well. The origin of Neocodex was essentially a cheating community. In fact, for the longest time it was a private cheating community, and it was almost an honor to have an invite here. Neocodex didn't sell products at that time, however as you stated the main pull for the community was people seeking programs. At that time Neocodex was completely community supported, since most of the programs came from programmers like myself, Mumei, Raredaredevil, etc.

So, for the longest time, I'd say at least four years, Neocodex was a community driven Neopets cheating community. Then, with the introduction of subscriptions, and mainly Abrosia, there was obviously a shift in the focus of Neocodex. Now, rather than being purely community supported and focused, it now became product focused. However, not even a shift like that can remove 4 years of community experience.

For me, it boils down to the roots of Neocodex and how the staff feel about it. Why should you maintain the community here? Because the community provided a lot for Neocodex over it's life, and in some sense Neocodex owe's it to the members to at least attempt to maintain it. However, on the business side of things, it makes perfect sense to scrap half the forum and just focus on customer satisfaction and program research and development. I think it just comes down to how the staff feels. Do you really want the community anymore, or would you rather pursue the business side of things?

[Dazz]

Hydrogen, Pyro699 and I were talking just now about how we don't like the forum as it exists right now. We believe that the forum's main purpose should provide a support role to the products and services that we offer. Instead, we spend a good chunk of time dealing with some people's dramatic behaviour and encouraging a community that is rather dysfunctional in our eyes. A good portion of these people don't even have any interest in what we do here -- only to cause trouble, or "stir the shit".

Why should we bother with this anymore? After all, we know from our work a couple years ago that if we make quality products, people will come. We would have something that they cannot get anywhere else. No giveaways or community events are going to coerce as many people to come as having quality products will.

You're never going to get a perfect community, we all have different personalities and such and tbh i like that we're a rather dysfunctional community. The forums would be shit boring otherwise, that's why the mods are there to deal with the members so you guys can focus on the important shit.
Why should you bother anymore? I've been coming here almost every day for the past 6 or so years, why should i bother anymore? I quit neopets about 5 years ago, the only reason i still come here is for the community/the random ass shit that goes on.

[Waser Lave]

Very good.

Can you imagine how dull it would actually be?

[Kyle]

For me, it boils down to the roots of Neocodex and how the staff feel about it. Why should you maintain the community here? Because the community provided a lot for Neocodex over it's life, and in some sense Neocodex owe's it to the members to at least attempt to maintain it. However, on the business side of things, it makes perfect sense to scrap half the forum and just focus on customer satisfaction and program research and development. I think it just comes down to how the staff feels. Do you really want the community anymore, or would you rather pursue the business side of things?

You're never going to get a perfect community, we all have different personalities and such and tbh i like that we're a rather dysfunctional community. The forums would be shit boring otherwise, that's why the mods are there to deal with the members so you guys can focus on the important shit.
Why should you bother anymore? I've been coming here almost every day for the past 6 or so years, why should i bother anymore? I quit neopets about 5 years ago, the only reason i still come here is for the community/the random ass shit that goes on.

Besides a select few, I think the community is a really nice place. This is the only forum I post on a regular basis, and it would really suck if it were scrapped because of a few people. It's a smaller community, but it has a very solid base.

[Nymh]

Instead, we spend a good chunk of time dealing with some people's dramatic behaviour and encouraging a community that is rather dysfunctional in our eyes.

Every community is dysfunctional. If you and Pyro don't want to deal with the drama, promote someone to deal with that shit or delegate it and do something else with your time.

To answer your original question, I come here for the conversation, the atmosphere, and to talk to my friends. Also, because it's my job (a job which I love).

[NapisaurusRex]

I frequent other forums, from 'mommy boards' to Pokemon, but this is the only one I actively participate in. I just like it. I don't have a lot of friends in the real world and I like hearing thoughts and ideas about a wide variety of things from a bunch of different people with different backgrounds. (So I guess I get intrinsic satisfaction from a sense of belonging?) Also, I try to provide a very specific atmosphere at home for the girls and Neocodex is where I can talk about dildos and say shit that I wouldn't say out loud in my living room, while still maintaining reasonably intelligent conversation. Some of you are hilarious.

I quit using Abrosia, but it's honestly because my computer is old and so it's slow during the day and kills itself at night. (my laptop, not the programs.) Just not convenient. More of a personal problem than anything. I still read and lurk through the Neopets boards even though I don't really play a lot of Neopets.

[Drakonid]

lulz

[ShadowLink64]

Every community is dysfunctional. If you and Pyro don't want to deal with the drama, promote someone to deal with that shit or delegate it and do something else with your time.

To answer your original question, I come here for the conversation, the atmosphere, and to talk to my friends. Also, because it's my job (a job which I love).

I don't need to be told that every community is dysfunctional.

It's not a matter of not wanting to deal with it. We want people to identify Neocodex as a software/services provider that has a community that supports this endeavour. Having people like Kami around who don't fit into this image at all only serves to degrade the image we want for our site. I can name many others whose purpose on this site is pretty questionable and that I don't particularly like to have around.

[Waser Lave]

Why not just have one forum set up for program support and a separate one for the community? Problem solved.