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#1 elkid27

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 07:15 PM

So after looking at how the training is set up I noticed that the Ninja training schools initial trainings for levels 250-300 drop down to 1 red codestone with a train time of 4 hours. Which compared to the main schools trainings for levels 80+ is quicker. So I thought maybe instead of doing 1 level, 2 strength, 2 defense, and 2 endurance that possibly leveling to 250 and then doing all of your strength, defense, and endurance trainings using the Ninja school could be quicker and cheaper. Attached is the spreadsheet I put together. I couldnt figure out how to embed it here in the thread and keep the format. So if a mod can feel free to add it.

 

 

 

So based off how this is set up, assuming you have an equal chance to have your training require any of the codestones I used the average codestone cost retrieved from the Neocodex Item Database. This assumes that each "level" costs 7 trains, 1 for the level, 2 for strength, 2 for defense, and 2 for endurance. We are assuming no training bonuses. Using the traditional method it turns out to cost you 46.8 million NP and 872 days of training time. Using my new proposed method of focusing entirely on level until you reach Ninja School then leveling all of the others (strength, defense, and endurance) up to that point it will cost you 29.1 million NP with 369.75 days of training time. So based off this it would seem that instead of the traditional leveling method most people use may be both more expensive and more time consuming to this proposed method. I welcome you to double check my math and plan. I threw this together fairly quickly so I may be missing something here.

 

tl:dr Instead of leveling level, 2 strength, 2 defense, 2 endurance, rinse repeat method leveling to 250 to unlock Ninja school and then leveling up strength, defense, and endurance to 500 each may in fact be both quicker and cheaper.

 

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#2 DonValentino

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 07:25 PM

This isn't new and lots of people do it already, but nice job anyway.



#3 Romy

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 08:56 PM

....all that work to discover something that people have been doing for ages.

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#4 Trey

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:45 PM

Hey, at least he proved it mathematically!



#5 Eefi

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

Red codestones rise in price again now because everyone does this xD



#6 Yung

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:13 AM

Red codestones rise in price again now because everyone does this xD

 

They've been holding fairly steady from what I've seen.



#7 DoNotAnnoyMe

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:24 AM

They've been holding fairly steady from what I've seen.

 

Just take a look at the price of Zed, it's fluctuating a lot lately.



#8 Trey

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:50 AM

I think the spike in red codestone prices is due more to hoarders and price manipulators. It takes time to reach level 250 and the demand for red codestones due to training won't increase so quickly in such a short time.



#9 Waser Lave

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 02:28 AM

Just take a look at the price of Zed, it's fluctuating a lot lately.

 

I like that before we started doing trend information in our database then people would find it difficult to notice price changes unless they were pretty big ones, now people notice even small changes. :p



#10 DoNotAnnoyMe

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 02:42 AM

I like that before we started doing trend information in our database then people would find it difficult to notice price changes unless they were pretty big ones, now people notice even small changes. :p

 

actually everyone using red codestones should have seen those changes lately. it fluctuated between ~15k and >50k, so that's pretty hefty ;)



#11 Yung

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 07:36 AM

actually everyone using red codestones should have seen those changes lately. it fluctuated between ~15k and >50k, so that's pretty hefty ;)

 

It's still much less than it was before this influx of codestones hit the market.

 

Remember when the Red Codestones were new to Neopets... O_o



#12 elkid27

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 06:20 PM

Ah well I did not know about this method beforehand. Luckily it didnt take very long at all to write up but you can repopulate the codestone prices as they change to give you new averages. Maybe somebody will find it useful




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