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#51 Dan

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:54 AM

I don't think there are any mods that make it automatic. But doing so wouldn't be terribly hard. You'd just have an extra php file with the requirements in functions set to give the award to the logged in user, and require it in the header. It wouldn't need to make any calls to the database until it was actually assigning an award, so the additional server load ought to be teensy.

 

I follow you, but I think your plan would indeed have to assign the award - it might be a better idea to have some kind of scheduled batch script that bulk assigned awards nightly, to take away any potential effects on performance (as well as to keep our code clean).

 

In truth there are a load of different ways we could go about it if we wanted to write it ourselves.

 

Perhaps instead of worrying about it now we could implement that functionality after a trial period with one of these manual awarding systems. :)



#52 Waser Lave

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:55 AM

It's easy, we just give Joe responsibility for handing them out. :p



#53 Sweeney

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:59 AM

I follow you, but I think your plan would indeed have to assign the award - it might be a better idea to have some kind of scheduled batch script that bulk assigned awards nightly, to take away any potential effects on performance (as well as to keep our code clean).
 
In truth there are a load of different ways we could go about it if we wanted to write it ourselves.
 
Perhaps instead of worrying about it now we could implement that functionality after a trial period with one of these manual awarding systems. :)


A batch script might be even more intensive on the database, since it would have to use database calls to harvest its data. An include script wouldn't necessarily have to do that.

Assigning manual awards could simply be an additional mod duty, with users PMing an online staff member when they earn something.

#54 Dan

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:13 AM

A batch script might be even more intensive on the database, since it would have to use database calls to harvest its data. An include script wouldn't necessarily have to do that.

You're half right - that's why we having caching, and why any resource-heavy batch scripts are scheduled to run during the early hours of the morning.
 
As I said, there are a number of different possibilities on how to achieve this with minimal impact on server load, but maybe we should start off by getting the system installed first.
 

Assigning manual awards could simply be an additional mod duty, with users PMing an online staff member when they earn something.


Agreed that it could be an additional mod duty, but the idea of having to get users to PM staff members just to get their badge kinda sucks. It should be as seamless as possible, maybe even with a PM notification IMO.
 

It's easy, we just give Joe responsibility for handing them out. :p


This works too  :rofl:



#55 Sweeney

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:17 AM

You're half right - that's why we having caching, and why any resource-heavy batch scripts are scheduled to run during the early hours of the morning.
 
As I said, there are a number of different possibilities on how to achieve this with minimal impact on server load, but maybe we should start off by getting the system installed first.
 

Agreed that it could be an additional mod duty, but the idea of having to get users to PM staff members just to get their badge kinda sucks. It should be as seamless as possible, maybe even with a PM notification IMO.
 

This works too  :rofl:


Well, ideally mods would be on the lookout for awards that needed giving out, so that they would only get PMed if the odd person was passed over by mistake. Things like contest awards would be assigned manually anyway.

I'd be happy to take responsibility for it, if I was back on staff.

#56 Dance

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:19 AM

Would it be an option to shrink the neopet style awards to 25x25? They're too clunky at 50x50 but I still enjoy the avatar-esque look of them.



#57 Sweeney

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:20 AM

Would it be an option to shrink the neopet style awards to 25x25? They're too clunky at 50x50 but I still enjoy the avatar-esque look of them.


Uh, not really... You couldn't fit much of anything in a 25x25 box in that style.

#58 Dan

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:21 AM

Well, ideally mods would be on the lookout for awards that needed giving out, so that they would only get PMed if the odd person was passed over by mistake. Things like contest awards would be assigned manually anyway.

I'd be happy to take responsibility for it, if I was back on staff.

 

I guess it really depends on what kind of award criteria we're considering, really. It's pretty easy to track posts on a 100-post day, but if we're doing awards for other things such as referrals, donations, guides, programming bits and bobs, it might be a little more difficult to track.

 

What kind of things did you have in mind?



#59 Sweeney

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:23 AM

I guess it really depends on what kind of award criteria we're considering, really. It's pretty easy to track posts on a 100-post day, but if we're doing awards for other things such as referrals, donations, guides, programming bits and bobs, it might be a little more difficult to track.
 
What kind of things did you have in mind?


A big ol' mix of stuff. Whatever comes to mind, really :p

#60 Dan

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:30 AM

A big ol' mix of stuff. Whatever comes to mind, really :p

 

We could do something interesting with graphics / programming / contest contributions. I have some ideas:

 

  • 1/5/10/25/50 for Signatures / Avatars created (it would be great if we could get back into the whole sig-request stuff)
  • 1/5/10/25/50 for Contests run
  • Bronze/Silver/Gold for Beta testing contributions
  • Bronze/Silver/Gold for Programming contributions (including snippets)
  • 500k/1m/5m/10m/25m NP / Item value donated

Naturally there would need to be some kind of easier way to track this criteria, but I think these would be a good start considering the main facets of the site.



#61 Bone

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:50 AM

I'm inclined to think that extrinsic motivation leads to more superficial content, but I guess superficial content is better than no content.

#62 Dan

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:59 AM

I'm inclined to think that extrinsic motivation leads to more superficial content, but I guess superficial content is better than no content.

 

I don't think using goals (awards) as a way to stimulate activity and contributions is a bad thing.



#63 Bone

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:09 AM

I don't think using goals (awards) as a way to stimulate activity and contributions is a bad thing.


When Advanced needed 500 posts, there were definitely more BS post count motivated posts. I suppose post count is the only criterion for an award I think is problematic, I don't see anything wrong with rewarding other kinds of contributions.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:11 AM

When Advanced needed 500 posts, there were definitely more BS post count motivated posts. I suppose post count is the only criterion for an award I think is problematic, I don't see anything wrong with rewarding other kinds of contributions.

Unless it's a bit higher. Instead of awarding 100-500 posts, they could award 1000,2500,5000,10000 or whatever. 



#65 Dan

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:13 AM

As soon as awards are updated a guide definitely needs to be made outlining the various criteria for both any new awards and also the current/new rank system (unless this exists, but I don't think it does)



#66 Romy

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:17 AM

I feel like I've seen this idea elsewhere....



#67 Dan

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:18 AM

I feel like I've seen this idea elsewhere....

 

Being original is hard.



#68 Kate

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:19 AM

I feel like I've seen this idea elsewhere....

They probably saw it elsewhere too :p 
Lots of forums have award systems of some sort. 



#69 Emily

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:47 AM

I like both options, but I prefer the smaller ones. I think they would take up less space in the sidebar. Plus, I think if you won enough, there wouldn't be any space left, and you would have to choose which ones you want shown (I could be wrong about that). With the smaller ones, you can show more without it being as in your face. This is definitely a great idea though, and I hope it will encourage more activity.



#70 Pilot

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:31 PM

I dig the tiny icons  :wub:



#71 Elindoril

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:20 PM

My inner achievement whore says "yes please".

Just don't make me work hard. Working hard sucks.

#72 ortin

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 02:28 PM

An option to toggle the awards would be very very nice as many people have said. I totally dig the awards system though. Awards gives me additional motivation to keep being a part of the community :)

Edited by nitro, 13 February 2014 - 02:47 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 02:37 PM

i dont know



#74 Trichomes

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 02:41 PM

Gives me a motivation to keep being a part of the community :)

 

Alright, forget it. This was a terrible idea.



#75 ortin

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 02:47 PM

Alright, forget it. This was a terrible idea.

Ok fine that was very badly worded. Edited


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