Edited by MichaelA, 18 June 2014 - 05:42 PM.
Why true anonymity on the internet is fake
#1
Posted 18 June 2014 - 05:19 PM
#2
Posted 18 June 2014 - 05:27 PM
Yep. Time to get the tinfoil hat going. Thankfully I don't do much the government would care about. I think.
#3
Posted 18 June 2014 - 05:32 PM
Even the NSA has trouble with people using the Tor network
Yes it makes them finding you more expensive but in the end if they are looking for you the will find you
Moral of the story don't think that just because your using a vpn or proxy that you can go and try and ddos microsoft or google and they wont find you
Edited by MichaelA, 18 June 2014 - 05:33 PM.
#4
Posted 18 June 2014 - 05:57 PM
Hey it's not like any of this should be a surprise, or considered something that avoidance ever even had a chance with since it all began on Day 1; after all, the internet was largely (if not pretty fucking close to entirely) started by DARPA...sure, I'll Google that federal agency for you.
For damn sure, it wasn't invented by this dude though:
#5
Posted 18 June 2014 - 05:59 PM
Hey it's not like any of this should be a surprise, or considered something that avoidance ever even had a chance with since it all began on Day 1; after all, the internet was largely (if not pretty fucking close to entirely) started by DARPA...sure, I'll Google that federal agency for you.
For damn sure, it wasn't invented by this dude though:
ya lol but every once in a while you get those people who think they are invincible behind a vpn or proxy
#6
Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:04 PM
#7
Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:05 PM
ya lol but every once in a while you get those people who think they are invincible behind a vpn or proxy
That's an excellent point. Unfortunately, I replied off the cuff (perhaps because I'm a federal contractor and thus have a pretty large awareness of how electronic interactions of any sort are 10,000% scrutinized with ease and regularity), but in no way do I consider the topic unimportant! Quite the contrary, it's something everyone should know more about.
#8
Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:08 PM
That's an excellent point. Unfortunately, I replied off the cuff (perhaps because I'm a federal contractor and thus have a pretty large awareness of how electronic interactions of any sort are 10,000% scrutinized with ease and regularity), but in no way do I consider the topic unimportant! Quite the contrary, it's something everyone should know more about.
Exactly how i feel, i feel like people should understand they can never be 100% anonymous on the internet
#9
Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:25 PM
Well, Tails might be the answer to this "dilemma". The world's most secure operating system, it's unlikely that the NSA would be able to access a computer with Tails installed. http://www.theverge....you-ll-ever-own
"There’s a long list of computers that can’t run the OS, and it includes most of the computers made by Apple."
#10
Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:35 PM
"There’s a long list of computers that can’t run the OS, and it includes most of the computers made by Apple."
Okay?
#11
Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:00 PM
#12
Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:04 PM
Okay?
it also leads to a list of issues which could leak stop it from being anonymous
The real lesson here is not to use a credit card to buy hacking tools.
The truth
#13
Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:23 PM
Which is precisely why I do all of my terrorist organizing at the local Starbucks
I'll wait for the feds now
#14
Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:27 PM
Of course real hackers hack websites within an incognito window. No cookies or browsing history means no proof.
#17
Posted 18 June 2014 - 08:53 PM
It was a joke.
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#18
Posted 18 June 2014 - 10:31 PM
#19
Posted 18 June 2014 - 10:34 PM
You seriously think the Kremlin, China, the FBI/CIA/NSA and SIS/Mi5 cannot track you? They have billion/trillion dollar systems in tracking down the most wanted people and terrorists. Surprisingly they don't give a shit about your internet dating messages or cat pictures.
Thank you
#20
Posted 19 June 2014 - 05:40 AM
I second that thank you.
#21
Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:06 AM
So I should delete my CP?
#22
Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:21 AM
So I should delete my CP?
Just eat the cheese pizza... no need for deletion.
#23
Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:47 PM
There are a few things I wanted to say:
Using a public WiFi hotspot is a 100% surefire way to not get caught, so long as you take the appropriate precautions. The MAC address of your NIC is easily spoofed via software, meaning that you can conceal the true hardwire ID of your NIC.
Facebook don't give the NSA an SSL key so they can 'decrypt' your data -- your chat logs are stored in a plain text format in their databases. The only time the data is in an encrypted form is during the time it's travelling to and from the webserver. When you or the facebook servers recieve the information, it's in plain text. This is why you are able to see your chat history in your message windows.
For anyone who is not aware, there isn't a mandatory data retention law for ISP's in the US, meaning that no ISP has a legal requirement to log or store data about your internet usage.
Numerous VPN services exist that advertise storing no information about you at all, having all forms of logging disabled, and sharing a single IP address with many people. This is completely legal. These services exist in many countries, meaning that it's extremely easy for you to choose a service hosted in a country that either doesn't acknowledge the laws in your country, or wont respond to a petty 'warrant', should you be concerned. On the event that a warrant is presented and the company complies -- if they have no logs or data stored about you, the warrant achieves next to nothing.
At any case, I wouldn't advise of performing illegal tasks online, but for the purposes of online security, hiding your actions online and being 'anonymous' for petty purposes such as copyright piracy, as an example, a VPN is a sure way to protect yourself.
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