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#51 Trichomes

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 09:41 AM

I feel this way as well. I would be down possibly for the graphic designers, but at the same time.... I dunno that I could commit, nor keep up with some of the talent here xD

 

Yup, we're in the same boat  :/



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 09:45 AM

I feel this way as well. I would be down possibly for the graphic designers, but at the same time.... I dunno that I could commit, nor keep up with some of the talent here xD

 

 

Yup, we're in the same boat  :/

 

How would y'all feel about committing to just one graphics thing?



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 09:48 AM

Hey, Dan.

Why don't you start an unofficial programming team?

 

I kinda did, what with @Eefi and I working together on the attic analysis project with the help of @WaserLave . That project has now made neocodex members over 300M, which is a pretty serious achievement I think. I also have some more ideas in the pipeline but it'd be great to get some more help. @Napiform @Rocket @Scot have all been serious players in feeding me game specifics in order to improve it, too, so there's a little analysis team there too.

 

Would you be interested in contributing to a programming team? ;) I'm definitely interested in hearing any responses @Nymh has received regarding interested programmers. 



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 10:22 AM

I kinda did, what with @Eefi and I working together on the attic analysis project with the help of @WaserLave . That project has now made neocodex members over 300M, which is a pretty serious achievement I think. I also have some more ideas in the pipeline but it'd be great to get some more help. @Napiform @Rocket @Scot have all been serious players in feeding me game specifics in order to improve it, too, so there's a little analysis team there too.
 
Would you be interested in contributing to a programming team? ;) I'm definitely interested in hearing any responses @Nymh has received regarding interested programmers.


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#55 Mishelle

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 11:07 AM

I feel like if people want to contribute they will. I tried inviting my friends here but they just didn't feel like sticking around because the place was so dead they forgot to log in or because they didn't feel welcome here. It sucks because for the most part this is a great community but what does it say about this place when multiple people have stated that they refrain from posting because they're too afraid to speak their minds?

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 03:42 PM

I understand the intention but I can't help but feel this is far too fragmented - a number of these roles are already filled without the need for a team badge, and I think we can probably merge some.

 

We could shrink the number of new teams down to 3 (from 6).

  • Content creators (regular contributors of guides, experts on various game subject matter, also encompassing the previous News Team role)
  • Graphic designers (aka graphics team)
  • Recruiting team (bringing new users to the forum)

... and keep the already established teams:

  • Programmers
  • Contest team 

 

I don't think we need to go into any finer detail, and we especially don't need a "newbie helper" or "greeters" team as these two roles are already filled. I don't remember the last time an intro thread went ignored, or a new member didn't get help when they needed it (usually from @Napiform -- which is a big reason she got the MOTM award). Other forums might need to force people to do these things, but our members are friendly enough to do it without being prompted. Instead of establishing a team, why don't we just have an award for greeting & helping out members new to the forum? 

 

The more teams we have the harder this is going to be to manage. I also feel "project managers" and "team leaders" can naturally emerge rather than being appointed from the very beginning. Let people earn the "team leader" role through putting in hard work and then proving they're up for the job.

 

Overall, I totally support a re-jigging of the groups and teams here at Codex and we've already proven we can do that with some success if you look at the Contest team and the hard work done over the last year. My only worry is that we won't have enough people with the relevant skill-sets to fill these roles, but I have no idea how many responses you've received thus far.

 

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As far as programming goes, as you already know, we are currently stricken by the current administration and there are ongoing recent discussions about this. I hope that if we can re-form some kind of team of like-minded people who are interested in contributing to some interesting projects and we may actually be able to innovate some. This is where a number of the issues we're seeing stems from, most else are just symptoms. 

 

Many of you might not play Neopets anymore, but please do not underestimate the effect new programs and tools could have on a new era of Neocodex. Don't forget, it's the reason you all joined in the first place!

 

I'd be alright shrinking the number of teams down to three.

 

An award sounds like a really good idea for forum greeters and perhaps even for newbie helpers.  It takes a special type of person to consistently answer questions about Ambrosia politely and without making the person asking feel like they are stupid, so I think that should definitely be recognized for those that go above and beyond to provide help to people.

 

I am good with the idea of team leaders emerging naturally, but I feel like we do need some people dedicated to project management in order to get the ball rolling on a number of different projects.  I feel like if we have a bunch of people committed to helping but no one directing them on what to work on, it's not really going to accomplish much.

 

I haven't had anyone apply as a programmer yet but I have had applications for every other position so far!  I'm heartened because it's not even been a day yet since this thread was posted, and I'm sure there will be more people expressing interest.



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 04:14 PM

I really wish I knew how to program! We need more programmers that have the time and motivation to program for codex, and while I do have the motivation, I don't have the skills or time :( This may change next school year as I will be taking a computer science course (JAVA, I think)

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 04:50 PM

@arcanum and @Trichomes... you shall be my muses.

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:34 PM

I will be sending my app once i get home.

 

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:39 PM

I'd be alright shrinking the number of teams down to three.

 

An award sounds like a really good idea for forum greeters and perhaps even for newbie helpers.  It takes a special type of person to consistently answer questions about Ambrosia politely and without making the person asking feel like they are stupid, so I think that should definitely be recognized for those that go above and beyond to provide help to people.

 

I am good with the idea of team leaders emerging naturally, but I feel like we do need some people dedicated to project management in order to get the ball rolling on a number of different projects.  I feel like if we have a bunch of people committed to helping but no one directing them on what to work on, it's not really going to accomplish much.

 

I haven't had anyone apply as a programmer yet but I have had applications for every other position so far!  I'm heartened because it's not even been a day yet since this thread was posted, and I'm sure there will be more people expressing interest.

Also @Dan and @Nymh, something to keep in mind is that people (current Codex members) may appreciate the guidance and direction of knowing what to do and how to do it. There's currently a lot of stagnancy in many areas of the community and the OP is a clear outline of what needs to happen and is a push a lot of people needed. Other people (future members) may appreciate the lack of confusion when they first join about who they can ask for help and what is appropriate. It's easy for someone to drop in an intro thread and be like hey ask so and so but it's not easy for someone brand new to take the initiative to actually do it if they aren't 100% sure it's the right thing to do.

 

Sure, there's people who are gung-ho and helpful and ready to do things without prompting, but there's many, many more who have no idea what to do or how to do it, but would like to help.



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:58 PM

Also @Dan and @Nymh, something to keep in mind is that people (current Codex members) may appreciate the guidance and direction of knowing what to do and how to do it. There's currently a lot of stagnancy in many areas of the community and the OP is a clear outline of what needs to happen and is a push a lot of people needed. Other people (future members) may appreciate the lack of confusion when they first join about who they can ask for help and what is appropriate. It's easy for someone to drop in an intro thread and be like hey ask so and so but it's not easy for someone brand new to take the initiative to actually do it if they aren't 100% sure it's the right thing to do.

 

Sure, there's people who are gung-ho and helpful and ready to do things without prompting, but there's many, many more who have no idea what to do or how to do it, but would like to help.

 

Thank you, these were pretty much my thoughts.  I am ok with condensing everything down to a few teams if that's what The People want, but I still feel like we need to be giving guidance to push people in the right direction to fill all of those roles.



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 11:06 PM

If anybody wants to learn how to program we're always here to answer any specific questions or issues they have, we just won't be able to hold their hand and guide them through everything.



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 11:52 PM

I'm still willing to be part of some sort of programming team, official or not. What I'm lacking is more input what people would really like to have. And depending on the complexity of the projects, I'm looking to contribute but not maintaining it on my own. So a bit more coordination between the programmers would be nice. :>



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Posted 25 September 2014 - 11:59 PM

I'm still willing to be part of some sort of programming team, official or not. What I'm lacking is more input what people would really like to have. And depending on the complexity of the projects, I'm looking to contribute but not maintaining it on my own. So a bit more coordination between the programmers would be nice. :>

We're currently discussing a couple of options among the Admin team, stay tuned ;)



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Posted 26 September 2014 - 04:57 AM

If anybody wants to learn how to program we're always here to answer any specific questions or issues they have, we just won't be able to hold their hand and guide them through everything.

 

But I wanted you to hold my hand. :( I'm so lonely.
Just kidding. I love to be alone. Please don't touch me, anyone.



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Posted 26 September 2014 - 05:50 AM

@Napiform and I are working on Social Media, we've got a tumblr page set up and she has twitter and facebook. Stay tuned for more info!



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Posted 26 September 2014 - 06:42 AM

I'm still willing to be part of some sort of programming team, official or not. What I'm lacking is more input what people would really like to have. And depending on the complexity of the projects, I'm looking to contribute but not maintaining it on my own. So a bit more coordination between the programmers would be nice. :>

I'm willing to hep brainstorm and I'm also willing to help programmers out with any questions or finding things out about Neopets or FR, like I've done for @Dan and Valorous in the past.

 

@Napiform and I are working on Social Media, we've got a tumblr page set up and she has twitter and facebook. Stay tuned for more info!

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#68 Nymh

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 07:19 AM

Just kidding. I love to be alone. Please don't touch me, anyone.

 

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 07:20 AM

Just kidding. I love to be alone. Please don't touch me, anyone.

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 10:24 AM

I might be willing to pick programming back up. I'm pretty damn rusty since I haven't done anything major since the PHP ABer from 2007ish.

 

I'd have to refresh myself on python. Not to mention I'd have to find the time to do this in the first place considering I'm working ridiculous hours and finishing up my degree. Bleh.



#71 Nymh

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 04:51 PM

I'd have to refresh myself on python. Not to mention I'd have to find the time to do this in the first place considering I'm working ridiculous hours and finishing up my degree. Bleh.

 

Even if it's just an hour a week, every little bit helps :)


I'm still willing to be part of some sort of programming team, official or not. What I'm lacking is more input what people would really like to have. And depending on the complexity of the projects, I'm looking to contribute but not maintaining it on my own. So a bit more coordination between the programmers would be nice. :>

 

Awesome.  This is why I think we need project managers, or at the very least team leaders to direct people in what to do and have primary responsibility for overseeing the project and reporting the progress and needs of the people working on it to other teams and/or staff members.

 

Can I stick you on the programming team?



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Posted 26 September 2014 - 05:06 PM

I'm still willing to be part of some sort of programming team, official or not. What I'm lacking is more input what people would really like to have. And depending on the complexity of the projects, I'm looking to contribute but not maintaining it on my own. So a bit more coordination between the programmers would be nice. :>

I have a few suggestions: Fixing up Abrosia is one thing that people really want (and need). Particularly the Attic part and the shop pricing feature. Beyond that, you could also fix up the autoplayers in the program manager. Those programs shouldn't be too complicated and shouldn't take too long. Those are my ideas :)



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Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:15 PM

Can I stick you on the programming team?

Yes sure!

 

I have a few suggestions: Fixing up Abrosia is one thing that people really want (and need). Particularly the Attic part and the shop pricing feature. Beyond that, you could also fix up the autoplayers in the program manager. Those programs shouldn't be too complicated and shouldn't take too long. Those are my ideas :)

No one except programming staff has access to that code base =_="



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Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:18 PM

Yes sure!

 

No one except programming staff has access to that code base =_="

Well, staff should make you an official programmer :p



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Posted 27 September 2014 - 04:42 AM

Well, staff should make you an official programmer :p


The point in this is to do what we can without being on staff.



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