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6 Things I Don’t Understand About The Fat Acceptance Movement


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#76 Inky

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 11:19 AM

honestly when I was in school I was fat and hated every day of it, wasn't until i started high school until i started working out a lot and lost nearly 80 pounds. I do think that we need to have more options available for kids so they can live healthy lifestyles. 

 

Unfortunately, most obese children are not that way because of themselves, but because of their parents. They're fed junk and not taught healthy eating habits from a young age, and it can be really hard to change those habits even when you gain autonomy over your own food choices as you get older.



#77 Bear

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:28 PM

Deep down inside they all want to be skinny : )



#78 Jess

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:47 PM

Deep down inside they all want to be skinny : )

You're just full of opinions today, aren't you?



#79 Sweeney

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:05 PM

You're just full of opinions today, aren't you?


Nasty ones, mostly.

#80 Bear

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:31 PM

Nasty ones, mostly.

Which ones are nasty???



#81 Kaddict

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 05:55 PM

Which ones are nasty???

 He is probably alluding to your filth in the CTAM: Count to a million and be the first forum to do it thread you made today. Come on, try to keep it classy.



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Posted 09 June 2015 - 07:06 AM

 He is probably alluding to your filth in the CTAM: Count to a million and be the first forum to do it thread you made today. Come on, try to keep it classy.

He's too good to reply to me <3 No seriously which ones!



#83 kadoatie

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 03:17 AM

 

3. “Health at every size” seems physically impossible.

A big part of the Fat Acceptance Movement seems to be the idea of Health At Every Size

 

LOL it's hilarious that you linked to this website.  I took a nutrition class several years ago with Prof Linda Bacon and she was full of shit.  Her textbook for the class was filled with non-objective, verbose garbage that preached on and on about how obese people are naturally that way and we should accept it and not "punish people for the way they look".  She disliked anyone who tried to argue with her (a good professor would always be up for a challenge) and especially gave a nasty attitude to any students who were skinny.

 

As someone who loves science, I wanted more scientific research backing up her claims, not personal philosophies.

 

She was very hypocritical as well, she said fat people shouldn't try to lose weight and should focus on accepting themselves, while bragging about how she used to be fat while younger and managed to lose weight. No one cared about her personal life, but she sure loved interjecting her anecdotes into lectures.

 

"We've lost the war on obesity. Fighting fat hasn't made the fat go away. "

 

This quote pisses me off so much because my cousins children all have diabetes and HUGE weight issues.  They live in Los Angeles and their mother (my cousin) constantly goes through drive-thrus and feeds them shit daily.  Apparently parents feeding their kids healthier food is pointless because "we're already losing the war".


Edited by kadoatie, 11 June 2015 - 03:38 AM.


#84 Riku

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 08:19 AM

http://www.jabfm.org...9.abstract?etoc

 

Proof you can be healthy at any BMI as long as you meet proper nutrient quotas, do some light exercise, control drinking, and don't smoke.

 

http://www.oxfordjou...pdf/prpaper.pdf

 

Proof that as long as you take care of yourself (i.e. don't develop diabetes or high blood pressure or high cholesterol), overweight people are at NO greater risk of developing a heart condition.

 

http://www.sportingc...nfl-player.aspx

 

BMI is bullshit.

 

http://jama.jamanetw...ticleid=1555137

 

Proof that obesity only affects your health when you reach stage 2 or 3 obesity -- but this study can be said to be relatively flawed since it relies on the BMI scale.

 

http://bleacherrepor...hletic-than-you

 

Fat athletes who are still more athletic than you.



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 11:46 AM

I have no idea what exactly you're trying to argue, but you certainly haven't proven that one can be healthy and obese (which is my main argument and the reason I created this thread).

 



http://www.jabfm.org...9.abstract?etoc

 

Proof you can be healthy at any BMI as long as you meet proper nutrient quotas, do some light exercise, control drinking, and don't smoke.

 

 

The authors of this paper did NOT come to that conclusion, only that adopting healthier habits is beneficial for people of any weight...

 

 

http://www.oxfordjou...pdf/prpaper.pdf

 

Proof that as long as you take care of yourself (i.e. don't develop diabetes or high blood pressure or high cholesterol), overweight people are at NO greater risk of developing a heart condition.

 

 

Again, where do the authors of this paper come to such a conclusion? The paper literally does not mention weight.

 
 
BMI is flawed, for sure, but what makes you think NFL players are healthy?
 

http://jama.jamanetw...ticleid=1555137

 

Proof that obesity only affects your health when you reach stage 2 or 3 obesity -- but this study can be said to be relatively flawed since it relies on the BMI scale.

 

"Relative to normal weight, obesity (all grades) and grades 2 and 3 obesity were both associated with significantly higher all-cause mortality. Grade 1 obesity was not associated with higher mortality, suggesting that the excess mortality in obesity may predominantly be due to elevated mortality at higher BMI levels. "

 

So...obesity is deadly.

 

http://bleacherrepor...hletic-than-you

Fat athletes who are still more athletic than you.

 

Ok.

 

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One cannot be sustainable both obese and healthy.

http://www.sciencedi...735109714068065

http://annals.org/ar...784291&ct=40009

 

 



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 05:26 PM

I have no idea what exactly you're trying to argue, but you certainly haven't proven that one can be healthy and obese (which is my main argument and the reason I created this thread).

 

 

The authors of this paper did NOT come to that conclusion, only that adopting healthier habits is beneficial for people of any weight...

 

 

 

Again, where do the authors of this paper come to such a conclusion? The paper literally does not mention weight.

 

 

 

 

 
BMI is flawed, for sure, but what makes you think NFL players are healthy?
 

 

 

 

"Relative to normal weight, obesity (all grades) and grades 2 and 3 obesity were both associated with significantly higher all-cause mortality. Grade 1 obesity was not associated with higher mortality, suggesting that the excess mortality in obesity may predominantly be due to elevated mortality at higher BMI levels. "

 

So...obesity is deadly.

 

 

 

 

Ok.

 

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One cannot be sustainable both obese and healthy.

http://www.sciencedi...735109714068065

http://annals.org/ar...784291&ct=40009

 

Ya, all cause mortality is dramtically decreased the further over 30 and under 17.5 you go. BMI is total garbage, but weight is still an important factor. It is more telling by itself than most other indicators. Especially because it often goes hand in hand with hyperglycemia/hypercholesterolemia. 



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 12:19 PM

When your body looks like a chicken nugget you need to reevaluate your life. 



#88 Rocket

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 12:23 PM

When your body looks like a chicken nugget you need to reevaluate your life. 

 

currently reevaluating my life. thanks.



#89 Bear

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 12:43 PM

currently reevaluating my life. thanks.

 

 

No problem I'm happy to show you the right path!



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Posted 06 July 2015 - 01:34 PM

currently reevaluating my life. thanks.

Your tits are much better looking than any chicken nugget that's ever been in my mouth.

#91 Rocket

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 01:38 PM

Your tits are much better looking than any chicken nugget that's ever been in my mouth.

Thanks! I hope I don't lose too much of them in the weight loss process.




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