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[DonValentino]

Just took the quiz. Got 98% for Bernie Sanders and 8% for Ted Cruz haha. (Hillary 82%, Trump 31%, Paul 28%, Bush 20%)

[HiMyNameIsNick]

Took the quiz too. 

 

[Mishelle]

It makes me so angry when people tell me that they don't care about politics and that nothing will ever change in this country. My best friend always bitches that he doesn't care about politics and talks about how he doesn't vote, but he's always up to date with everything that happens with the Kardashians and the iPhone. It drives me absolutely bonkers. I told him that politics is the reason he can now get married in this country. Politics is the reason he can walk into a store and not have to worry about a sign in front that says "No dogs, No Jews and No Niggers" he just told me to shut up. Truth hurts I guess.

[Hawk]

I actually took this quiz a week or two ago.  Bernie was my #1, Hillary #2.  For Republicans, it was #1 Huckabee IIRC, #2 Paul.

 

Everything was in the 50% range or lower, likely because I hit "Other Stances" and picked moderate responses (Read: Response with a reason attached, rather than a blanket yes/no) and didn't use the slider for nearly every question.

 

I just re-took it and got a lot higher percentages, but answered fewer questions.  Bernie, Hillary, (O'Malley, some Dem I'm completely unfamiliar with),  Jeb, Rand.

 

I'm probably one of the weirdest people you'll talk to, because if I had my way it'd be between Bernie and Rand.  They're about as far apart as you can get (Excluding Trump), and I'm well aware of that, but I'd trust those two a hell of a lot more than most politicians.  The Clintons and Bushs have had their run, let's see some new blood.

 

The harsh reality is the President doesn't do as much as the population likes to think.  Your vote for the local government, your representatives in the senate and house, etc. are way more important.  I hate my district.

[Mishelle]

I hate my district as well. Everyone is constantly re-voting for incumbents who don't do shit to improve the city because they know they'll get votes no matter what. But it's better than my last district i lived in where Darrel Issa was my representative. Gross.

[Guppie]

Bernie Sanders is the only one I'd actually LIKE to see in charge, but I'll take Hillary over any of the GOP candidates...especially Trump's hair. Have you seen how eerily natural the human puppet under the hair is? How many more humans will fall prey to sentient hair beings before people realize what's going on?

[redlion]

Bernie Sanders is the only one I'd actually LIKE to see in charge, but I'll take Hillary over any of the GOP candidates...especially Trump's hair. Have you seen how eerily natural the human puppet under the hair is? How many more humans will fall prey to sentient hair beings before people realize what's going on?

Trump is just illustrating the point that people will believe what you tell them to believe. He doesn't have to actually change his views, he just has to repeat, loudly, that he'd build a wall (better than anyone) and that his business is strong. Never mind his previous positions - the average voter can't be expected to remember something for longer than two weeks, lol. That's about as long as the collective memory anyway.
 

I'm convinced of this. I remember Trump saying that he was democrat, he was pro-choice, he was pro-equal rights and he's friends with the Clintons. I don't understand how he can switch all of his views, become a Republican and act like this much of an ass without it being massive trolling.

He has either gone off the deep end recently, or he's trolling to make the field more respectable. But no, I remember the same things about him and his last campaign. He ran as republican then too, but you're right, he was saying a lot about pro-choice, pro-equality and now he's all about 'traditional marriage' and that rot.

[Guppie]

Trump is just illustrating the point that people will believe what you tell them to believe. He doesn't have to actually change his views, he just has so repeat, loudly, that he'd build a wall (better than anyone) and that his business is strong. Never mind his previous positions - the average voter can't be expected to remember something for longer than two weeks, lol. That's about as long as the collective memory anyway.

He has either gone off the deep end recently, or he's trolling to make the field more respectable. But no, I remember the same things about him and his last campaign. He ran as republican then too, but you're right, he was saying a lot about pro-choice, pro-equality and now he's all about 'traditional marriage' and that rot.

I'm fine with people changing their views if there's new information, but Trump is a total joke. He just says stuff and expects people to lap it up...and the sad part is that there seem to be quite a few people who are. Mmmmm FoxNews

 

Something that really gets to me is that having a large number of candidates for such a visible and respected position of power is a sign of instability. The USA has a lot of problems, but I fear the kind of violent revolutionary action we seem to romanticize so much in film. There is unrest, from riots against police brutality to an uncertainty about who should lead the nation. It's good that people aren't happy with how things are, because the USA has a lot of issues (infant mortality, long work weeks, low pay, ineffective taxation) that other developed countries handle much better, but I think a lot of people in the USA feel helpless in a political system that presents them with candidates who do not represent their values, but the values of a loud minority and the corporations which pay for legislation with "campaign donations."

 

Helpless people take desperate actions, and this upcoming election is a sign of how strong those feelings of helplessness have become.

[talbs]

Carson is a retired neurosurgeon and Paul was a Ophthalmologist.  They're very smart and talented people, and I can't help but feel like they're selling out by becoming politicians.

 

Selling out maybe, but then again, maybe people who are career politicians are a part of the problem. Not to mention that the Paul family has been in politics for a long time ( and even Ron was an OBGYN). My biggest complaint with Rand he isn't enough like his dad. Ron didn't start gaining any traction until he was too old to continue, and some of his opinions were a little extreme for the average person. 

Edited by talbs, 11 July 2015 - 05:56 AM.

[Guppie]

Oh, and I took the quiz. I answered all the questions and got the following

 

97% Sanders

85% Clinton

73% O'Malley

 

The GOP candidates range from 25% (Huckabee) to 3% (Santorum)

 

Edit: I didn't hit the "more" button. Corrected from least agree with Cruz to least agree with Santorum

Edited by Guppie, 11 July 2015 - 07:05 AM.

[treblemaker]

BERNIESANDERS2K16

 

though i'm pretty sure we all know the chances of him beating hillary in the primary are slim. if that's the case, i'll vote for hillary. better than another bush in the white house.

[Mishelle]

I'm fine with people changing their views if there's new information, but Trump is a total joke. He just says stuff and expects people to lap it up...and the sad part is that there seem to be quite a few people who are. Mmmmm FoxNews

Something that really gets to me is that having a large number of candidates for such a visible and respected position of power is a sign of instability. The USA has a lot of problems, but I fear the kind of violent revolutionary action we seem to romanticize so much in film. There is unrest, from riots against police brutality to an uncertainty about who should lead the nation. It's good that people aren't happy with how things are, because the USA has a lot of issues (infant mortality, long work weeks, low pay, ineffective taxation) that other developed countries handle much better, but I think a lot of people in the USA feel helpless in a political system that presents them with candidates who do not represent their values, but the values of a loud minority and the corporations which pay for legislation with "campaign donations."

Helpless people take desperate actions, and this upcoming election is a sign of how strong those feelings of helplessness have become.

I actually think it's a good thing that we have so many candidates running. It shows that there are more than just liberal vs conservative and Democrat vs Republican. We need to start moving away from the two party system.

[redlion]

I actually think it's a good thing that we have so many candidates running. It shows that there are more than just liberal vs conservative and Democrat vs Republican. We need to start moving away from the two party system.

It'd be a good thing if there were any difference between any them.

As I see it, the only candidates that stand out from the centre-right are Sanders and Paul. And they both capitulated and ran as Dem/GOP instead of as a third party. More candidates does not mean more varied opinions. More parties should mean more varied opinions.

[DonValentino]

It'd be a good thing if there were any difference between any them.

Exactly. Some of them have more liberal views or more conservative views but they're all part of the same system. Are any of the politicians we've been discussing not GOP or dem? I would love for other parties to be relevant and even consequential, but we're not there yet. Some of the voting systems in Europe are pretty cool (Germany comes to mind), but those are for their parliamentary elections, even so I'd like to see something like it discussed for the US

[Padme]

I actually think it's a good thing that we have so many candidates running. It shows that there are more than just liberal vs conservative and Democrat vs Republican. We need to start moving away from the two party system.

 

The bipartisan system has always baffled me, especially learning about it in school.

 

Any good libertarians running? I heard a lot about them last election.

[redlion]

The bipartisan system has always baffled me, especially learning about it in school.
 
Any good libertarians running? I heard a lot about them last election.

Define 'good' libertarians. Good as in good ideas? Good media coverage? Would make a good leader? Good for a laugh?

Rand Paul is from a quasi-libertarian tradition, if you count Ayn Randian egoist bullshit as libertarian. But he's running as a Republican. I don't think anyone else from the GOP would self-identify as libertarian.

Of course there's a Libertarian Party candidate as well, but that's like saying there's a Reform candidate. It doesn't mean anyone knows who they are.

[Rocket]

I registered to vote yesterday. Go me.

[DonValentino]

I registered to vote yesterday. Go me.

[talbs]

Define 'good' libertarians. Good as in good ideas? Good media coverage? Would make a good leader? Good for a laugh?

Rand Paul is from a quasi-libertarian tradition, if you count Ayn Randian egoist bullshit as libertarian. But he's running as a Republican. I don't think anyone else from the GOP would self-identify as libertarian.

Of course there's a Libertarian Party candidate as well, but that's like saying there's a Reform candidate. It doesn't mean anyone knows who they are.

 

Gary Johnson likes to run all the time. It appears this year is no different.

Edited by talbs, 14 July 2015 - 10:02 AM.

[Mishelle]

Exactly. Some of them have more liberal views or more conservative views but they're all part of the same system. Are any of the politicians we've been discussing not GOP or dem? I would love for other parties to be relevant and even consequential, but we're not there yet. Some of the voting systems in Europe are pretty cool (Germany comes to mind), but those are for their parliamentary elections, even so I'd like to see something like it discussed for the US

 

Bernie is a socialist. I don't think Donald Trump is a republican because if he doesn't win the nom he's said he's going to run third party. No idea what that party is tho.

[Romy]

I'm seriously voting Trump.

 

I hate those beaners.

[Rocket]

I'm seriously voting Trump.

 

I hate those beaners.

[Romy]

Los odio! Los odio!

[Mishelle]

Going to a Bernie Sanders rally at SD Pride today. I'm so excited, they're going to be giving out rainbow Feel The Bern stickers. 

[Bone]

My biggest complaint with Rand he isn't enough like his dad.

 

He's not racist, anti-Semitic or homophobic enough?