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[Coops]

@Coops

 

Technically the term is 'hyperlordosis' but most everyone I met uses 'Lordosis' as in you have a lordosis, since sway, saddle, and saddle backs are all slightly different, though I don't remember how off the top of my head.  But, for instance, one is sticking your butt out way far, and another is walking around with a pelvic thrust like in a Transformer's comic.

 

It probably comes from trying to match stylistically to the 'opposite' Kyphosis, which is hunchback. (There is also hyperkyphosis.)   Technically, the normal throatic curve is known as the kyphotic curve as well.  So *shrug* language in action?

 

Speaking of not being able to sleep on your side: I can't sleep on my left side, but I can on my right, which has resulted in my right side being more stretched/stretchable than my left.

Okay. That makes sense @DregsandDregs. I asked because I wasn't sure and I have been diagnosed with lordosis in the c-spine. But even then the doctor didn't properly explain it to me and I've been told so many different things with my neck.

Laying on my left side is more comfortable physically, but for some reason my brain doesn't really like it or I am just compulsive about being on my right side. However, I have the opposite problem. My left shoulder is far more flexible than my right -- which is stiff and aches often from laying on it. I try not to fall asleep on my side though.

[DregsandDregs]

@Coops

 

Mm, can't help much if I don't get a look at you, or hear the particulars, but: Lordosis of the cervical spine is usually, well, from slumping at the computer.

 

You slump forward in the shoulders, so your neck bends backwards to level your eyes with the horizon.  This also happens with a slouched posture.  I'm really bad at doing that.

 

One thing that I find helps is to tilt my monitor back (I'm on a laptop) and keep it a little bit lower than normal, then lean back in my chair.  If I'm being good then I'm sitting up straight, if I'm bad my butt is closer to the edge of the chair and I'm slumping back.  Either way, you will naturally tilt your head downwards to see the monitor better and that straightens out the curve in the C-spine and strech those muscles a bit so maybe it will be easier for you to maintain proper posture in a normal situation.

 

My increased flexability is actually in the waist, I can bend to one side more than the other.

 

Your brain doesn't like laying on your left side?  Don't get passout drunk, recovery position is left lateral recumbent because of the stomach bend.

 

Stiff right arm and shoulder...If you're female, watch out for frozen shoulder syndrome.  It's a fucking bitch.  Grab a theracane if you're feeling like going all out, but something like this should be more than enough.  I beat up my friend's shoulder all the time to keep it from seizing up, and for her it's all Levator Scapula and the Rhomboids.  Also Pec Minor and the Teres but she's ticklish there.  (is it obvious yet that I'm a massage therapist?)

 

*thinks* Hand up like you're swearing on the Bible.  Stick your fingers in your armpit and grab a handful of your Pec muscles, relax your grip and your arm.  Increase your grip and hold on tight.  Start moving your arm.

[Coops]

@DregsandDregs

Hah, no surprises there then. I spend a lot of time at the computer. I also have a lot of shit going on with my neck/head though due to Chiari malformation, congenital cervical stenosis and accelerated disc degeneration (as in my discs are degenerating faster than typical female adults my age). I do regularly stretch and I have to do PT as a part of my craniectomy and laminectomy recovery. The PT feels great so I probably will never stop even after my recovery is over.

I'm actually hypermobile everywhere. But comparatively, my left shoulder is more flexible than my right. My shoulder blade also comes out further. Not sure why that is but it was something my neurosurgeon talked to me about. 

Nope. I think it's a compulsion thing. Anyways, I don't need to worry about that. I don't get passout drunk. But if I did, I'm sure I'd be too drunk to give remember laying on my left side. It makes me uncomfortable when I try to sleep on my left side, even though it feels better on my torso and back. Basically, I try to lay on my back.

I actually have one of those theracanes. I've also experienced frozen shoulder. And I go to massage therapy regularly as a part of my pain management. I loooooove deep tissue.

How long have you been a massage therapist?

[DregsandDregs]

@Coops

 

*googles* Ack.  On the plus side, it's an obvious disease so you have a diagnosis and are getting help.

 

The shoulderblade sticking out like that is due to the muscles not holding it down as the shoulderblade just basically...floats on the back of your ribcage.  Seratus Anterior probably, maybe traps/rhomboids.

 

Deep tissue is great, I have a hard time not doing deep tissue and trigger point work--I just feel like I'm helping people when I do it as opposed to just providing palliative measures.  Though, occasionally softer work IS the curative work.

 

I've been a LMT for, hn, several years now.  Trained in the Swedish Institute.  I let my registration lapse because, well, New York City.  When I graduated they started requiring continuing ed to keep you registration in New York State, meanwhile, everywhere I look there were massage parlous, some of them were even legit, even if no one had a licence.  It's like legalizing certain types of medical marijuana from certain vendors, and slapping more regulations and expenses on the vendors while there's an illegal, cheaper, peddler on the same block with a neon sign.

 

Yes, I am bitter.

 

Anyways, I'm out of New York now, don't know where I'll be next year, so I'm waiting.  Maybe I'll get a registration there, since NYS has such high requirements most states will accept it.

[Coops]

Can hypermobility caused by say Ehlers-Danlos result in muscles not properly holding the blade down?

I love deep tissue so much. @DregsandDregs I typically accept nothing less. Trigger point work has seriously helped me as well. I have this perma trigger point in my left shoulder that therapists can't seem to get rid of. I've had it for like 8 years. 

Where do you wanna go? 

[MelodyPond]

@DregsandDregs you responses to @Coops questions helped me as well. My chiropractor said for the head pains I get is due to muscles in my shoulder blades being inflamed which is from my scoliosis. But, I will look at that link and check it out. Your from NY Dregs? Do you have any recommendations to a good masseuse that is not too expensive? 

[DregsandDregs]

@Coops

 

I don't see why Ehlers-Danlos wouldn't do that sort of thing since it seems to bugger with pretty much all your connective tissue.  Actually, looking at the pictures and skimming the articles it looks like it mucks right up with your facia, which is so important to, well, holding everything in place.  *snaps fingers*  Have you tried getting myofacial release (essentially rolfing) before getting a triggerpoint murdered at elbow point?  Wait.  Skin, skin issues, you might not be able to get it.  It relies on not having enough oil on the skin to help cause the facia to mobilize, so it might be contraindicated for you.

 

I've heard some incredible stuff about Gua Sha technique.  One of my teachers says she cured carpel tunnel/onset of carpel tunnel in someone with a spoon but it took her like an hour, he was crying by the end and his arm was a mass of bruises.  Since it doesn't rely on friction (actual friction, not massage technique friction) you might be able to have it done.

 

As to where I'm going?  Dunno.  But I've made the BEST friends in fandom.  The one I'm living with right now?  Known her for half of my life.  She's a College Teacher and just lost her job.  When she moves she's taking me with her. \ö/

 

So, with her.  Probably somewhere more metropolitan though.  I am legit too poor for Medicaid in Georgia.  Or something.

 

@MelodyPond

 

Hmn.  Oh right, the clinic.

 

Here.

 

I think the other Massage Colleges also have something similar due to state requirements re: practice, but SI is the only one I know for sure.  The only problem is that it's $402 upfront, but it's for Twelve one-hour sessions, six Swedish, six shiatsu.

 

I'm trying to think up some self care techniques that might help.  For the shoulder, well, shoulders in general, shrug big, shoulders up to your ears, while maintaining that lift and rotate your arms like it's a stick-up: forearms should be vertical humerus parallel to the floor, or near it.  Then, deliberately push your shoulders down, it will probably feel kinda crunchy.  Relax your arms.  That settles the humerus properly in the joint and might help.

 

I'm trying to construct some other helpful techniques in my head.  Are you C curve or S curve?  C is much easier to address, with S curves you have to isolate the stretches more.  And if you have any other shoulder problems.

 

Regardless, might I suggest getting a few lessons in Alexander Technique? 

[MelodyPond]

@DregsandDregs thank you for the information, I'll talk to my husband about it. I will try that technique, hopefully it helps. I'm S curved. I'll look into that technique, thank you for the suggestion. 

[DregsandDregs]

@MelodyPond

 

No problem.  Alexander helps some people, but not all and I wish you good luck!

[blackflamedeathwish]

7 all night until I roll over and cuddle up to my big booty woman.

[fallensnow]

I think mostly like 3 except I think I lay on my other side mostly? I tend to flop between which side I lay on.

[NapisaurusRex]

Scientists may have discovered what sleeping position gives you nightmares

[Wartoad]

19-ish all the way

[KittyNikki]

I sleep in a mixture of 7 and 15. I lay on my stomach with my hand under my head and my head facing left, or right. I also have to have my legs in the shape of a four.

[Emily]

I came here to say that I now sleep like 2. 

[Cass]

1, 2, 3, 5, 15 and 20. At least thats how I GO to sleep. If I have to believe my partner I perform Jiu Jitsu at night.

[Cheyenne]

The diagram made me lol pretty hard. I usually either find myself sleeping/falling asleep in 1, variations of 13 and 14, or just on my left or right side.

 

Interesting poll, though!