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#1 Fikri

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 08:44 AM

UK will hold a referendum whether or not they should exit the european union (EU) due to their poor immigration policy, economy, issues on sovereignty, among others.

i live nowhere near european union but i'm really interested about the result of the referendum. my country, malaysia, is a member of a group called ASEAN and while the level of cooperation is quite low, it does envision to be like EU one day. so if UK exits EU, it will definitely affect our aspiration. not to mention such a brazen move will also create a domino effect with countries like greece, portugal and others following suit which will negatively impact the global economy. so i say NO... DON'T BE SELFISH AND LEAVE THE EU, UK!!

 

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what do you think?

p/s: UK sure love to hold referendums, don't they? then the scotland independence referendum and now this...



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Posted 21 April 2016 - 01:05 PM

Erm, the U.K has only had two referendums in its entirety. Once to change the voting procedure (many wanted AV in comparisons to FPTP), and this upcoming referendum.

Other than the recent Scottish independence referendum, no individual country has had one at all (or at least in recent decades).

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Posted 21 April 2016 - 01:18 PM

Erm, the U.K has only had two referendums in its entirety. Once to change the voting procedure (many wanted AV in comparisons to FPTP), and this upcoming referendum.

 

And the one to stay in the common market in the 70s.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 07:27 PM

LEAVE IS WINNING. WHY

 

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 08:38 PM

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>Lowest point since 1985

Hoo-fucking-ray. Of course this had to happen like almost immediately before @Elindoril and I send off our incredibly expensive paperworks and I was banking on the pound staying strong so the incredibly tiny amount of money to my name would be worth something here. I've read that it's meant to recover within the next ~3 months but that's too far from now (and the person might have been talking about of his ass, he listed no sources).

 

Like it's gone from 1gbp = 1.85cad to = ~1.72cad in about two hours but when will it stop dropping? How low will it go?



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 08:38 PM

WELP guess brexit is happening.

 

*starts looking up flights for a cheap vacation to London...*

 

@Turnip seems the leave camp believe brexit will benefit Britain in the long term. Sounds like a wild ride before then.

 

ALSO, looks like there might actually be another referendum coming soon, what with Scotland unanimously voting remain.


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:01 PM

@Turnip seems the leave camp believe brexit will benefit Britain in the long term. Sounds like a wild ride before then.

 
It's great that it might benefit the UK in the long run, but the pound's value dropping really doesn't help when we're going to be paying a huge amount of money on paperwork within the next week....



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:06 PM

Damn that's tough, sorry to hear that. : /



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:08 PM

Such a stupid move UK



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:32 PM

As an European living in a country with very tight relations with UK, I admit I am scared.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:36 PM

 
It's great that it might benefit the UK in the long run, but the pound's value dropping really doesn't help when we're going to be paying a huge amount of money on paperwork within the next week....

Wait, if you have to pay stuff in pounds in the upcoming weeks, wouldn't the devaluation of the pound/euro be helpful for you? Or do you need to convert from different currency? Sorry, idk where you live or anything. I could be super ignorant right now.

In any case, I am all for Britain getting out. If it is what is best for their country, obviously I think it is what they should do. They shouldn't have to pay for stupid countries and their problems (ie greece). 



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:40 PM

I feel physically sick this morning. We have made a terrible terrible decision that there's no coming back from.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:44 PM

I feel physically sick this morning. We have made a terrible terrible decision that there's no coming back from.


France looks more appealing by the minute, right? :/
Flee, children, flee. Although, the consequences of this will know no boarders. Dark times ahead.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:46 PM

In any case, I am all for Britain getting out. If it is what is best for their country, obviously I think it is what they should do. They shouldn't have to pay for stupid countries and their problems (ie greece).

It's in no way best for us, it's a total fucking disaster. Everyone with any sense (including basically every economist) was backing remain. Leave was a campaign founded on lies, greed and xenophobia.

France looks more appealing by the minute, right? :/
Flee, children, flee. Although, the consequences of this will know no boarders. Dark times ahead.

Of course outside the EU we don't even have the option. :( Good thing Boy is coming back already. I've honestly never felt so anxious.

#15 Turnip

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 09:57 PM

Wait, if you have to pay stuff in pounds in the upcoming weeks, wouldn't the devaluation of the pound/euro be helpful for you? Or do you need to convert from different currency? Sorry, idk where you live or anything. I could be super ignorant right now.

 

The higher the pound, the better the gbp to cad exchange rate is. I want the highest amount of money I can get from current exchange rates.

 

Edit: looks like the pound stabilised. Glad it didn't get worse :x



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:11 PM

It's in no way best for us, it's a total fucking disaster. Everyone with any sense (including basically every economist) was backing remain. Leave was a campaign founded on lies, greed and xenophobia.

Of course outside the EU we don't even have the option. :( Good thing Boy is coming back already. I've honestly never felt so anxious.

 

I haven't heard an argument for leaving that couldn't be invalidated or that wasn't complete bs. I also saw that Scotland is saying that they see their future with the EU so that should be interesting.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:12 PM

gg EU :/



#18 Ali

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:14 PM

Edit: looks like the pound stabilised. Glad it didn't get worse :x


Yet.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:16 PM

I haven't heard an argument for leaving that couldn't be invalidated or that wasn't complete bs. I also saw that Scotland is saying that they see their future with the EU so that should be interesting.

Here is a rather compelling argument for leave that I found on reddit.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:21 PM

I haven't heard an argument for leaving that couldn't be invalidated or that wasn't complete bs. I also saw that Scotland is saying that they see their future with the EU so that should be interesting.

Bigger story than us leaving seems to be this is the trigger for the breakup of the UK.

I'm at my desk at work at 7.18am by the way. Because about 75% of our performers are European and rely on freedom of movement to a) get here easily and b) not cost us a fucking fortune in visas. I now have to write an urgent press release about how we plan to tackle a situation that nobody knows when/how it will take effect.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:21 PM

the very UK we all know and love is destroying itself before our very eyes. this is a truly a dark day in the history of humanity.

rip UK. :crybaby:



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:25 PM

Here is a rather compelling argument for leave that I found on reddit.
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Yawn. The UK has voted AGAINST an EU law that has been passed on 2% of all legislation since 1999. We've voted for EU law on 95% of legislation. We elect our MEPs (and under a different, more democratic system than the General Election). But please tell me more about what a 20 year old anonymous fucktard on reddit with no proper life experience thinks is best.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:31 PM

I am 20, middle class, live in central England.

 

 

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#24 ortin

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:32 PM

Yawn. The UK has voted AGAINST an EU law that has been passed on 2% of all legislation since 1999. We've voted for EU law on 95% of legislation. We elect our MEPs (and under a different, more democratic system than the General Election). But please tell me more about what a 20 year old anonymous fucktard on reddit with no proper life experience thinks is best.

Hey, it's one of the first logical arguments I've seen that doesn't resort to racism and Islamaphobia for the leave group. Doesn't mean I agree with it. 


That's where I stopped reading

And you should probably keep reading, because it's not as shallow as you would expect. 



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:37 PM

Hey, it's one of the first logical arguments I've seen that doesn't resort to racism and Islamaphobia for the leave group. Doesn't mean I agree with it.

And you should probably keep reading, because it's not as shallow as you would expect.

I'm on my phone and like I said, having to draft urgent press releases so I can't pull that apart line by line but if you think that's logical, you're a moron and don't understand the first thing about the EU. For instance, "the EU wants to bring unsuitable countries in". Every country IN the EU has the right to veto membership. If the UK think a country shouldn't be in the EU, we have always had the ability to stop their membership. Hence why Turkey was a scaremongering tactic used by leave, because we could pull the plug on them joining at any time we liked. We don't have that option now.



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