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#26 ortin

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:42 PM

I'm on my phone and like I said, having to draft urgent press releases so I can't pull that apart line by line but if you think that's logical, you're a moron and don't understand the first thing about the EU. For instance, "the EU wants to bring unsuitable countries in". Every country IN the EU has the right to veto membership. If the UK think a country shouldn't be in the EU, we have always had the ability to stop their membership. Hence why Turkey was a scaremongering tactic used by leave, because we could pull the plug on them joining at any time we liked. We don't have that option now.

Jesus why are you so condescending?

After you're done with the press releases, I would appreciate it if you could in fact take it apart line by line. I am a foreigner, and I will be the first to admit that I don't know the inner workings of the E.U. as well, since it has never really been of my concern. So, please inform me of why you think this argument is wrong.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:43 PM

Suffer the wrath of a bad currency.

Love a spiteful Canadian.

#28 Ali

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:23 PM

Jesus why are you so condescending?
After you're done with the press releases, I would appreciate it if you could in fact take it apart line by line. I am a foreigner, and I will be the first to admit that I don't know the inner workings of the E.U. as well, since it has never really been of my concern. So, please inform me of why you think this argument is wrong.

Oh god I wonder why, when my job and the company I work for is now in danger, when my husband relies on freedom of movement for work, when my best friends work in law and banking and have already been put on notice this morning that their jobs are unsafe but will be working 22 hour days for the next few weeks regardless, when the markets are in freefall when I'm a homeowner in one of the most expensive cities in the world with a mortgage to pay, when I'm a woman who needed EU legislation for equal pay because my own government tried to shirk it, when the people backing the leave campaign yesterday claimed that the EU wanting to increase maternity pay was a bad thing, I wonder why I'm hugely upset why some kid on reddit, who won't yet be facing any of these problems, thinks that things like the EU wanting more countries involved, when they could never do that without our sayso, is reason to leave.

I'll agree that us leaving is probably more likely to promote change within the EU, but it's change that will never benefit us in any way whatsoever.

I really don't think you appreciate just how much this will have totally fucked up the lives of a number of the young Brits on this board, for years to come.

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David Cameron has resigned. Watching this statement in the office really has the horrible feeling that something truly life changing has happened.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:24 PM

Well, I'm pretty sure David Cameron just resigned.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:25 PM

Oh god I wonder why, when my job and the company I work for is now in danger, when my husband relies on freedom of movement for work, when my best friends work in law and banking and have already been put on notice this morning that their jobs are unsafe but will be working 22 hour days for the next few weeks regardless, when the markets are in freefall when I'm a homeowner in one of the most expensive cities in the world with a mortgage to pay, when I'm a woman who needed EU legislation for equal pay because my own government tried to shirk it, when the people backing the leave campaign yesterday claimed that the EU wanting to increase maternity pay was a bad thing, I wonder why I'm hugely upset why some kid on reddit, who won't yet be facing any of these problems, thinks that things like the EU wanting more countries involved, when they could never do that without our sayso, is reason to leave.

I'll agree that us leaving is probably more likely to promote change within the EU, but it's change that will never benefit us in any way whatsoever.

I really don't think you appreciate just how much this will have totally fucked up the lives of a number of the young Brits on this board, for years to come.

So you are saying that these other points that this redditor did not mention (which I do not dispute) is more damaging to the people of Britain and the world in general than is the points he brought up. I agree, though I was looking for why his arguments themselves are faulty. 

 

I really don't think you understand my position of this issue. I think Britain really messed up with this decision, and its citizens will face the brunt of the fallout. I also happen to agree that some of his points were valid as well. 



#31 Ali

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:25 PM

Well, I'm pretty sure David Cameron just resigned.

Yup. New PM in by the party conference in October. Please not Boris. :(

My press release is basically:
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We have no fucking idea but we're probably carrying on as normal til October. After that, your visas are too spenny for us to employ you. END.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:41 PM

im just waiting for the 3rd out Mr Osborne sniveling little man!!

 

 

Great result and dont worry peeps the markets will recover.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:50 PM

Yeah, sure.

 

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:52 PM

gg Boris Johnson

I hope you rot in hell



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:59 PM

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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if at least Scotland tries to leave.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 11:59 PM

rofl

 

Working in the financial sector gives me some insight into these things but all in all it is still just my opinion at the end of the day no one can see into the future no matter what they say.

 

Personally I feel this will be great for UK for one big reason.....  The EU is failing and it is going to fail totally at some point and do I want to be in it when it does, no hence why I voted to leave.

 

 

Anyways I don't like talking politics as it gets people into arguments when its nothing we can do other than put an X in a box.



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:00 AM

So you are saying that these other points that this redditor did not mention (which I do not dispute) is more damaging to the people of Britain and the world in general than is the points he brought up. I agree, though I was looking for why his arguments themselves are faulty. 

 

I really don't think you understand my position of this issue. I think Britain really messed up with this decision, and its citizens will face the brunt of the fallout. I also happen to agree that some of his points were valid as well. 

 

How are any of his points valid?

 

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:01 AM

Arts editor at The Times just called to see if I think this is the death of culture in London. My boss took one look at me and started pouring whisky. We're all having a Mad Men day in the office.

Friend's team at Goldman's all got in at 5am, apparently it's chaos over there and seniors have all been in a locked door meeting for the past 4 hours.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:04 AM

One thing I'm particularly unhappy about is the fact that universities are going to lose a lot of research funding that they received from the EU. 



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:21 AM

One thing I'm particularly unhappy about is the fact that universities are going to lose a lot of research funding that they received from the EU.


This. And also the fact that EU students will find it more difficult to enter into our universities without paying atrocious sums out of pocket and hence killing the diversity that can be observed on campuses across the country. And please not Boris.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:22 AM

I have no idea how any of this works, and I'm really reaching here -- maybe the UK will start buying boat loads of silver, and my small fortune will turn into a much much larger fortune. Probably not ._.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:42 AM

US and UK are in a very close competition for who can make the worst political decisions of 2016. 

 

Although I'm sure the US is happy that it isn't the embarrassment of the world today. Will change if Trump wins. 


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Interesting point. 



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 12:58 AM

This. And also the fact that EU students will find it more difficult to enter into our universities without paying atrocious sums out of pocket and hence killing the diversity that can be observed on campuses across the country. And please not Boris.

Without the extra tuition fees, I'll be amazed if a number of universities can continue as they're currently run.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:30 AM

Get rid of some of the dead weight management and they will be fine ;)



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:33 AM

This. And also the fact that EU students will find it more difficult to enter into our universities without paying atrocious sums out of pocket and hence killing the diversity that can be observed on campuses across the country. And please not Boris.

 

Without the extra tuition fees, I'll be amazed if a number of universities can continue as they're currently run.

 

Yeah, a lot of my friends are thinking of going elsewhere because they don't want to have to pay so much.



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:35 AM

Get rid of some of the dead weight management and they will be fine ;)

You credit them with too much practicality.

The irritating thing is that nothing happens now. Nobody is invoking Article 50. Cameron has already said he won't be the only to do it. It'll be at least 2018 until this takes legal rather than political and economic effect, so we now have turmoil with no benefit.

Pound is slowly creeping its way back up after the 2am crash.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 02:13 AM

 

Pound is slowly creeping its way back up after the 2am crash.

as I said its short term and also the voters have not caused this currency movement, the financial market has caused this by gambling in that the UK would remain.



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 02:42 AM

I'm so angry about the whole thing and I'm worried about the future for my kids.

Most of the people I know have been complaining about immigrants and saying the money saved from the EU membership will be put into the NHS. I'm seen as a bit of a "silly leftie" to my family so they have been completely ignoring me telling them that a lot of our immigration is from non EU countries (so won't change!) and that to stay in the free market (which they all insist they want) we will have to negotiate a deal similar to Norway and Sweden (I think!) which specifies free movement of people. So most people I know have voted out for either the wrong reasons or horrible racist reasons. 

And as for believing Farage when he said the money would go back into the NHS.. anyone who believes anything that man says needs to reevaluate. He's since said it was a mistake to say that and it won't be going back in.

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 02:51 AM

normaly I would not amend something someone has posted but felt I should just for info basis:

 

 

He's since said it was a mistake to say that and it won't be going back in.

 

just for your info it was not Farage who stated "all" the money would go back into the NHS it was other leave members who did this.  He has stated this morning they where wrong to use this campaign and that he did not agree with the statement "all" he said he would think it would be in the region of 80-100m but that it was not upto him but the leader or new leader of the conservatives to decide this.

 

Anyways not a fan of Farage but just thought I would amend your info there as it is being reported wrongly on social media.  I happened to be awake when Farage had this live interview where the was stated so know what was actualy said and also the interveiwer was trying to lead him into a mistake but did not get anything.



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Posted 24 June 2016 - 02:53 AM

My sister in law is from London and her and her entire family have been really hit hard by this whole thing. I won't pretend to understand every little thing about the situation, but did people forget the whole once you leave you don't come back deal? I feel like the whole thing wasn't completely thought out and most of the people who voted to leave weren't looking at the entire picture of consequences and whatnot.



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