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#1 Junjie

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Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:00 AM

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Update 2017: I found a better option. Simply download Torifier instead, install it, and then add our Program Manager to the "torified" programs (it will be called "pre_loader.exe" -- check the shortcut on your Desktop to find out where it's located on your computer.

 

Once done...your Program Manager will be using Tor, which easily functions as a free proxy. You won't have to do so many steps as per the original guide below:

 

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#2 UnicornSoul

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Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:40 AM

I downloaded tor and opened it, first thing I did was try to log in to Neocodex, and it won't let me log in. I enter my credentials but nothing happens.



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Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:54 AM

I downloaded tor and opened it, first thing I did was try to log in to Neocodex, and it won't let me log in. I enter my credentials but nothing happens.

 

There might be some lag that's causing that, or the IP that the Tor browser is giving you at that moment might have been banned by the mods cos of misuse perhaps by previously banned members or something.

 

I'm assuming internet browsing is working as per normal otherwise on your Tor browser?

 

Also, if you are running Proxifier with my instructions above, you won't be able to use the Tor browser as an internet browser by the way. I think it's because Proxifier will then set the Tor browser to use itself as a proxy or something (have not verified this through my own testing yet however).



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Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:59 AM

Ok, so is it safe for me to use mozilla for my browsing and tor/proxifier for my SSing?



#5 Junjie

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Posted 01 June 2016 - 06:14 AM

Ok, so is it safe for me to use mozilla for my browsing and tor/proxifier for my SSing?

 

Yes should be.



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Posted 01 June 2016 - 10:33 AM

There might be some lag that's causing that, or the IP that the Tor browser is giving you at that moment might have been banned by the mods cos of misuse perhaps by previously banned members or something.

 

I'm assuming internet browsing is working as per normal otherwise on your Tor browser?

 

Also, if you are running Proxifier with my instructions above, you won't be able to use the Tor browser as an internet browser by the way. I think it's because Proxifier will then set the Tor browser to use itself as a proxy or something (have not verified this through my own testing yet however).

 

That's because you're setting your system to use the Tor thing on all applications :p You can add the program manager only to use the Tor thing. But for some reason when I do that it doesn't work :/ I guess adding just the "pre_loader.exe" isn't enough. I tried to make it handle the traffic from python.exe and still nothing e.e So what I did was setup a VM that handles all the "proxy traffic"



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Posted 01 June 2016 - 03:10 PM

That's because you're setting your system to use the Tor thing on all applications :p You can add the program manager only to use the Tor thing. But for some reason when I do that it doesn't work :/ I guess adding just the "pre_loader.exe" isn't enough. I tried to make it handle the traffic from python.exe and still nothing e.e So what I did was setup a VM that handles all the "proxy traffic"

 

Strange, I tried only adding Program Manager to use the Tor proxy, and everything else not to, and it works. What error message do you get, and how does your Proxy Rules page look like @GetJinxed bae??



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Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:17 PM

Is it possible to use Tor only for certain programs? Real world usage: I don't want my normal browsing to be slowed down by Tor, but I need the anonymity for score sending.



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Posted 01 June 2016 - 05:41 PM

Is it possible to use Tor only for certain programs? Real world usage: I don't want my normal browsing to be slowed down by Tor, but I need the anonymity for score sending.

 

@ortin Yup!

 

Under the Proxy Rules, just make a rule for Program Manager. Under "Applications", find pre_loader.exe and select it (it's prolly in C:\Program Files (x86) -> Neocodex for windows). And then make sure it is above the rule named "Default".

 

So now you will have two rules, the Program manager one at the top, and the Default below it.

 

For the Program Manager one, under "Action" select "Socks5 proxy". For Default, select "Direct".

 

Voila, now only the Codex Program Manager (all instances of the Program manager) will use the Tor Socks5 proxy. While everything else (internet browsing etc) will not use proxy ("Direct" means "no proxy").

 

I should probably add this to the guide yes yess.



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#10 Paprika

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Posted 02 June 2016 - 03:56 AM

thanks for writing this up! i've heard of tor many times before but it's always seemed to complex for me to pick up. i think i'll give it a go whenever i have some free time / a clearer mind.



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Posted 02 June 2016 - 06:30 AM

If you're willing to shell out some money....

 

You can also use SocksEscort instead of proxifier. I have a subscription to SocksEscort, but I usually source my proxies from other websites. This is faster than TOR and probably the cheapest option. You can buy proxies for ~$0.10 - $0.75. The problem is that they can go down randomly. Over time, I've found 50-60 that seem to never go offline. My personal opinion is that the proxies come from a botnet.  (http://seproxysoft.com/en) for SocksEscort.

 

It's also possible to use a VPN with multiple regions like TotalVPN & NordVPN. That's easier to set up, they never go offline, and they usually allow you to swap VPN locations. (https://www.totalvpn.com/locations) The biggest downside is that they cost a bit more money, 5-15 USD a month. I'm also not entirely sure how they haven't started banning datacenter IPs yet.

 

A last "free" option is to use Amazon EC2. I say "free" because you do need to sign up with a debit/credit card. That's what I always used previously. You get 12 months of a free tier server during the trial. You can incur data charges, but I think I only got a data charge 1-2 times for $0.15-$0.50 over a year. Again, not sure how datacenter IPs aren't banned. I prefer this because it lets you remote desktop in, set everything up, disconnect, and then you can actually turn off your computer. 



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Posted 02 June 2016 - 08:49 AM

Strange, I tried only adding Program Manager to use the Tor proxy, and everything else not to, and it works. What error message do you get, and how does your Proxy Rules page look like @GetJinxed bae??

 

No error but the traffic from the Program manager doesn't tunnel at all :/ 



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Posted 02 June 2016 - 09:43 AM

No error but the traffic from the Program manager doesn't tunnel at all :/

 

Run wireshark while you run the PM. It will show you which application you need to tunnel. I've never used Proxifier, but with SocksEscort you can see all applications available to tunnel.

 

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Posted 02 June 2016 - 09:54 AM

Run wireshark while you run the PM. It will show you which application you need to tunnel. I've never used Proxifier, but with SocksEscort you can see all applications available to tunnel.

 

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Ah well thought! Thanks :D



#15 Junjie

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Posted 02 June 2016 - 11:31 AM

If you're willing to shell out some money....

 

You can also use SocksEscort instead of proxifier. I have a subscription to SocksEscort, but I usually source my proxies from other websites. This is faster than TOR and probably the cheapest option. You can buy proxies for ~$0.10 - $0.75. The problem is that they can go down randomly. Over time, I've found 50-60 that seem to never go offline. My personal opinion is that the proxies come from a botnet.  (http://seproxysoft.com/en) for SocksEscort.

 

It's also possible to use a VPN with multiple regions like TotalVPN & NordVPN. That's easier to set up, they never go offline, and they usually allow you to swap VPN locations. (https://www.totalvpn.com/locations) The biggest downside is that they cost a bit more money, 5-15 USD a month. I'm also not entirely sure how they haven't started banning datacenter IPs yet.

 

A last "free" option is to use Amazon EC2. I say "free" because you do need to sign up with a debit/credit card. That's what I always used previously. You get 12 months of a free tier server during the trial. You can incur data charges, but I think I only got a data charge 1-2 times for $0.15-$0.50 over a year. Again, not sure how datacenter IPs aren't banned. I prefer this because it lets you remote desktop in, set everything up, disconnect, and then you can actually turn off your computer. 

 

Hahaha, andd the real expert comes in. Thank yoou for the alternatives, @shrouded ! Yup, am not shelling out money nows -- don't feel it's worthwhile for Neopets hahaha (and don't really have other uses for them at the moment). Am indeed using EC2 though -- used your guide for that too. :)



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Posted 02 June 2016 - 11:36 AM

I'm glad you get some use out of it. The USA East servers are the fastest to Neopet's servers. That's not really that important for just autobuying or score sending. That was mostly important for AAA, which is now shut down.

 

Free is definitely best, but TOR has unbelievably slow speed. Good for scoresending, probably not so good for autobuying.



#17 Junjie

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Posted 02 June 2016 - 03:59 PM

I'm glad you get some use out of it. The USA East servers are the fastest to Neopet's servers. That's not really that important for just autobuying or score sending. That was mostly important for AAA, which is now shut down.

 

Free is definitely best, but TOR has unbelievably slow speed. Good for scoresending, probably not so good for autobuying.

 

Haha yeah, I don't use it for autobuying, but scoresending and simple IP masking right now actually. I just need an alternative to public proxies that was also free, and I got it hahhaha.

 

I'll be sure to hit up your alternatives if I ever want a fast proxy for ABing (other than my EC2 instance) however!


Edit: Ok @shrouded I added a link to your post on my guide, to those looking for better options. :)



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 09:50 PM

I hope this is not a silly question, but since I would like to SS on my main account, would using tor actually make my account safer, since I assume it's for anonymity. I've already logged on neopets with my current IP many many times, so if JS found my account to be suspicious, they'd just ice it anyway, wouldn't they?

 

I'm guessing it's only worth using tor if you're using multiple shell accounts and don't want it linked back to the main one...?



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 11:50 PM

I'm guessing it's only worth using tor if you're using multiple shell accounts and don't want it linked back to the main one...?


Yup exactly, and indeed I'm using the Tor network as proxy for this reason right now. Proxies don't actually lower or prevent your rate of getting iced at all after all, they only hide your IP and hence mask your identity.

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Posted 26 June 2016 - 05:03 PM

i downloaded the new one and i love the update on it its so much faster then the last one



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Posted 26 June 2016 - 06:59 PM

Thanks for this guide. It didn't take long to set up at all.

 

I found some registration keys for proxifier. One of them worked for me. These may or may not work for you.

 

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#22 Junjie

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Posted 27 June 2016 - 02:19 AM

Thanks for this guide. It didn't take long to set up at all.

 

I found some registration keys for proxifier. One of them worked for me. These may or may not work for you.

 

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Thank you for this, I'm currently using EC2 instead but will remember them if I need to register Proxifier indeed!



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Posted 10 July 2016 - 07:56 PM

Thank you for this, I'm currently using EC2 instead but will remember them if I need to register Proxifier indeed!

 

wow, big thanks for the tutorials. I've been using public proxy tunnels, is this method safer? Ï'm definetely gonna try it

 thank you @HiMyNameIsJunjie and @ratcoffee for the helpful threas and posts!!!



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Posted 10 July 2016 - 10:28 PM

wow, big thanks for the tutorials. I've been using public proxy tunnels, is this method safer? Ï'm definetely gonna try it
 thank you @HiMyNameIsJunjie and @ratcoffee for the helpful threas and posts!!!


Proxies won't make you 'safer' in that they *won't* reduce the chance of freezing. However, if you use them to hide your accounts from being linked to each other, this may be useful. :)

#25 Sorbet

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 09:54 PM

This isn't a proxy question, but could you answer some questions about VPNs?




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