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[BirdistheWord]

Sorry for the wonk title but I'm a small fish in a world full of bang and flash.

 

 

Question: can Neo staff go through your item transfers after you've frozen an account. Not talking about if someone is trying to scam someone else and then freezes after ripping someone off. 

 

 

Hypothetical:  I bought an item, it was transferred to a shell. I leave item on shell for a little while then transfer to main account and freeze shell. (two different IP addresses for main and shell).

 

Are they likely to ever go back and figure out what's going on? Is this relatively safe? 

 

 

 

 

[Purrina]

Disclaimer: I have never done this, and I have no personal experience with this method of transfer.

 

I just was reading about ways to transfer items, and that was one of the methods suggested.

It was suggested because if there ever was a reason for an account to be looked into, TNT might look at an account, see it was frozen, think someone else already "fixed the problem" and move along. Apparently. this worked quite well for a number of years.

However, later posts in the thread said that while it was a commonly used method awhile ago, TNT staff are now "catching onto this" and if there's enough of a reason to look into an account, having it "self frozen" doesn't deter them - I seem to recall one person saying they felt it made the situation worse / made them look into it more.

 

From what I have read I *believe* the answer is yes - even in a frozen/self-frozen account TNT can still see account information like transfers of items.

[BirdistheWord]

does neopets admin after go back to transfers is gay?

 

I deserved that lol

 

 

Thank you both for the data

Can you get in trouble for having multiple accounts if you have 5 live ones, freeze 1, and open up another account?

[Professor]

Sorry for the wonk title but I'm a small fish in a world full of bang and flash.

 

 

Question: can Neo staff go through your item transfers after you've frozen an account. Not talking about if someone is trying to scam someone else and then freezes after ripping someone off. 

 

 

Hypothetical:  I bought an item, it was transferred to a shell. I leave item on shell for a little while then transfer to main account and freeze shell. (two different IP addresses for main and shell).

 

Are they likely to ever go back and figure out what's going on? Is this relatively safe? 

Yes, been there done that, got frozen for that

They just change the freeze reason.

You increase your chances of getting caught if someone reports which happens if you post on boards or interact with players.

So best keep quiet and enjoy

[BirdistheWord]

Yes, been there done that, got frozen for that

 

 

Did you just do it once or how many times before you got caught?  Was it because someone on the boards reported you or because TNT caught you?   Like, I get all of this cheating has risk to it but I've been betting on the odds that they have too many other people to catch, and I try not to do it too often, but maybe I should tone it down even more.

Edited by BirdistheWord, 09 December 2018 - 03:17 PM.

[programmer]

Disclaimer: I have never done this, and I have no personal experience with this method of transfer.

 

I just was reading about ways to transfer items, and that was one of the methods suggested.

It was suggested because if there ever was a reason for an account to be looked into, TNT might look at an account, see it was frozen, think someone else already "fixed the problem" and move along. Apparently. this worked quite well for a number of years.

However, later posts in the thread said that while it was a commonly used method awhile ago, TNT staff are now "catching onto this" and if there's enough of a reason to look into an account, having it "self frozen" doesn't deter them - I seem to recall one person saying they felt it made the situation worse / made them look into it more.

 

From what I have read I *believe* the answer is yes - even in a frozen/self-frozen account TNT can still see account information like transfers of items.

 

What if you intentionally try to get banned by say, swearing on the boards. Then your freeze reason wouldn't be self-frozen, and TNT might look past that

[Purrina]

What if you intentionally try to get banned by say, swearing on the boards. Then your freeze reason wouldn't be self-frozen, and TNT might look past that

 

That's true,with a ban reason for an obvious rules infraction TNT might look over the account and not dig too deeply -- but you give up regaining future access that account in the process.

 

In the above example of transfer item from A > B, self freeze A, and B keeps item -- there is always the option of getting A unfrozen later.

 

If you self freeze an account, you can always come back a few months/years later and ask for it to be unfrozen. Changed your mind, miss your pets/friends/guild/games etc.

 

Intentionally freezing an account by say, knowingly cursing on the neoboards, or purposefully sending an impossible score/impossible time means you will most likely not get that account back, ever.

 

It really just depends on what your end goal is - if you're willing to walk away from the account entirely, that could work.

[Bones]

Everything has an audit trail no matter if frozen or not.  In theory unless they remove the coding of the item from the site the code can be traced to and fro very very easily.  It all depends if A they want to do it or B is it worth them doing it.

[Munsterpet]

It's complicated - it's best to disguise the transactions as much as possible but yes they can easily trace an items transaction history - rumor is waiting longer makes it more difficult but who knows

[Bones]

Agreed waiting long periods of time would make sence as they would have more code to look through but then I supose they could then just run a search.  It all depends on what access the mods have and how much work load they have to the outcome.