Brain dead?
AMDs out-clock Intel procs right now. End of story.
Also, you didn't mention that ANY time you upgrade an intel processor; it's pretty much a new chipset... so you need a new mobo.
The current AMD platform (S939) is a relatively high-efficiency; low-cost platform. Overclocking wise, it's phenomenal (Compared to Conroe... meh. Conroe is still 6 months away).
Any AMD processor (S939) overclocked will WIPE THE FLOOR with any equivalent intel (single core) processor. Both overclocked.
I'm talking games here--Photoshop/3DSM; anything that utilized hyper-threading... Intel has a slight edge [The 144s/146s got rid of the extreme edge]. (Single core only..)
Dual Core... AMD no matter what. Hands-down.
Any AMD processor (dual core) will beat the same Intel processor in its price range.
Price-Performance goes to AMD.
Overclockability--again, to AMD.
My current X2 clocks, on STOCK air, [Mind you, this is the crappy HSF--not the 4-heatpipe one], to 2.5Ghz. UNDERVOLTED. 1.28v [Stock is 1.4]
New X2s do this relatively consistently.
Temps load @ 33-35C. Load.
Room ambient is 27C [yes, toasty!]. idle is 33. Load is 44C.
Under water... I'd say it woul be 33/35 (idle/load, respectively).
Yes, that little heat. Efficient bugger.
So, to summarize:
Currently, all of AMDs offerings wipe the floor with the P4s [Yonah is a different matter, but an X2 out performs a Yonah clock-for-clock and is clocked higher--so the X2 has the lead, but isn't smoking it].
Conroe will change all of that. But that's 6 months away.
Price-Performance, Net performance, you name it.
In the single core area; Intel wins if you're using 3DSM/etc; and overclocking HEAVILY. The Opteron 144/146 solidified AMDs lead against Intel on the Single Core overclocking front. 2.6Ghz on stock voltage is typical.
In the dual core area... no competition. At all.
Google for Benchmarks.
Also... don't feed us the "IDE drives overclock better" BS.
You don't overclock your HDD.
You overclock the rest of your system.
Any different it makes is minor.
Also, RAID offers no real-world performance different except with massive data transfer. [Moving Data from one PC to another. Windows load times/etc. aren't helped much, if at all.]
I'll link you to an article if you don't believe me.
--Trevor
lol seriously you need to get hands on experiance with MANY different types of both SATA and IDE. Why do you think you set an AGP/PCI lock, (or i guess PCI/PCI-E lock or whatever if its pci-e) .... it helps your hardrive not get corrupted from overclocking. Also, if you put 4 raptors in raid, you'll get a bigger impact then 2 raptors
for 210 dollars i think an intel 920 @ 4ghz is good.. Also conroe is 4-5 monthes away, theres already ES's going around etc, and Meron's can had a bit easier then conroe.
my Presler heat results on a Thermaltake typhoon (air)
about 56F ambient. (13.3c)
Idle: 15c
Load: 30c
Also Yonah is better clock for clock then even the FX60..
http://www.xtremesys...ead.php?t=90743the reason i dont have my presler @ 4-ish is because my motherboard is owned.. so im going to get an RMA for it after spring break
Almost all somewhat new intels can get 1ghz overclocks, i dont see much of that with AMD's (on air)
Intel 2.4 D1 or m0 @ 3.4... easy..
Intel 2.66B (some of them) - 3.8ghz
Intel 3.0E (almost always 4ghz)
Intel 630 (almost always 4ghz)
and most 640's can hit 4.2...
Edited by Fatal, 03 April 2006 - 10:54 PM.