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[Cuteangel333]

Topics about alcohol (which is way worse than a lot of drugs) are allowed, why was my topic closed?

Pretty ignorant.

[Random]

I'd advise you to take this up via PM with staff. I'm sure they had their reasons for closing it.

[Kitchwa]

Sometimes its best not to know or not to have a little rant about . When my topics are closed they are closed, no second try of getting them unclosed (or whatever )

[cara]

Because this is a child friendly site, and you're talking about drugs as if they're candy and promoting them.

'Nuff said.

(/posts before thread closes)

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Pretty ignorant? This is a neopets/graphics/programming forum. You made a topic about your favorite ways to screw up your life, one pill/joint/injection at a time. The answer to this "why" equation isn't a difficult one.

edit: Although for the record, I think all the alcohol topics people make are stupid too

Edited by BrknPhoenix, 04 July 2006 - 04:40 PM.

[pyke]

My guess is because recreational drugs are illegal, while alcohol isn't.

[Christopher Robin]

Topics about alcohol (which is way worse than a lot of drugs) are allowed, why was my topic closed?

Pretty ignorant.

Er, it isn't way worse than a lot of drugs... PLUS it's at least partially legal. All it does is hurt brain cells/kill them, and hurt your liver. Other drugs usually do more than that. And most are addictive, alcohol isn't physically addictive, it's all in alcoholics heads.

[Kitchwa]

err.. alcohol is illegal for the vast majority of all members on codex...

alcohol is also one of the three neurotoxic drugs, accompanied by methamphetamine and MDMA...

I'm not sure why drug topics aren't allowed while alcohol is.. .

Alcohol is illegal to most of us on codex because we are underage V_V. But for everyone else its perfectly legal . Alcohol topics are allowed because it is legal.. when you reach a certain age. But drugs arent legal at all.. unless its medicinal

[dolphinbomb]

It was closed because Neocodex's host forbids the discussion of drugs.

[Amagius]

I just think that it was irresponsible to not post a "Why I Closed It" post on the thread. If it's NC's volition to ban drug talk, have it their way. Don't like it, but tolerated.

[Kitchwa]

many many drugs are legal in countries that aren't the U.S. or the U.K.

illegal because you are underage and illegal because you live somewhere else is pretty much the same thing...

Thats true but where i live in Aus there are no drugs aloud . Though they are both illegal and they both do danger to your body. Thats why when im legal age ill just stick to getting drunk a lot still does damage to the body but not as much as drugs
..unless im missing some info....

[Christopher Robin]

err.. alcohol is illegal for the vast majority of all members on codex...

alcohol is also one of the three neurotoxic drugs, accompanied by methamphetamine and MDMA...

I'm not sure why drug topics aren't allowed while alcohol is..

and to take another standpoint, drugs are legal/decriminalized in many countries.. if I lived in columbia I could be speaking of a legal possession of a gram of cocaine.. w/e.. it's all fucking stupid to me.. (rules regarding freedom of speech and the like..) *shrugs*
you do realize that the majority of drugs AREN'T physically addictive? the only ones I can even think of that are, are opiates. Alcohol is very psychologically addictive and is extremely neurotoxic AND is very destructive to the liver.

Still using cocaine as an example, it effects dopamine the same as alcohol does(with norepinephrine as well..) yet it isn't neurotoxic...(damaging to the brain.) It also isn't toxic to the liver as well.. the only body part that may be caused harm is the heart if extreme use is used or a possible heart condition.. or the nose if you snort it.. (although there are many many many other routes of administration that take away that.. or hell.. you could mix it in a saline solution and spray it in your nose like I'm doing now to preserve my septum)

my 5000th of a franklin anyways.

and to the OP (original poster)

you should check out www.bluelight.ru it's a harm reduction orientated website with actually intelligent users.. who don't beleive the first thing they hear.. quite a few actually have a PhD... it's more for intelligent drug discussion as well as harm reduction.. but yeah...

I go by Isotopic_Parody over there.

BUT, isn't coke addictive? Or at least dependant? Anyways. Alcohol doesn't hurt the liver that much, or at least that bad. A LOT of people I know drink a lot, and their livers aren't failing or anything

Besides, alcohol is hard to OD on, even if you're a nub. I mean, you need a LOT of alcohol to die, unless you're drinking some kind of 195 proof shit, in which case you're just jumping right into it without even trying the soft stuff to see how far it gets you, and you're PROBABLY going to drink too much, and then die. That's why in Canada, most we have is like... 75.5 I THINK, not sure, but usually it's all 40%, in which case you could take more than a whole 26er, and by the time you're done the first one, you're not going to need another, so you PROBABLY won't get another one =]

[Justin]

You dont need to get alchohal poisoning to die from alchohal. Some people throw up while their sleeping and choke on it and die >_>

[Cuteangel333]

Because this is a child friendly site, and you're talking about drugs as if they're candy and promoting them.

'Nuff said.

(/posts before thread closes)

I was promoting drug use? Please show me where the hell I promoted drug use or glorified them.

My guess is because recreational drugs are illegal, while alcohol isn't.

So what? What if I asked "Who here has ever shoplifted" or "Who here has ever gone over the speed limit"?

Er, it isn't way worse than a lot of drugs... PLUS it's at least partially legal. All it does is hurt brain cells/kill them, and hurt your liver. Other drugs usually do more than that. And most are addictive, alcohol isn't physically addictive, it's all in alcoholics heads.

Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells OR hurt your liver. Many drugs don't put through the liver through much stress. Also, few drugs (I can only think of Heroin) are physically addictive.

Thats true but where i live in Aus there are no drugs aloud . Though they are both illegal and they both do danger to your body. Thats why when im legal age ill just stick to getting drunk a lot still does damage to the body but not as much as drugs
..unless im missing some info....

Riding your bike is dangerous. So is driving, and just about anything else you do... not to mention drinking. For some reason most of you don't consider alcohol a drug.

Come on, people. Grow up, people use drugs and that's that. Why does it have to be taboo? I was merely asking who does and who does not use drugs.

And thank you Cody for bringing some intelligence into this conversation, and shame on other users for not even asking WHY their topics were closed.

Edited by InfamousX241, 04 July 2006 - 05:45 PM.

[Christopher Robin]

Unless you're gangsta, in which case yo ass is gonna show off and shoot 3 pounds of coke /overexagerate

xD

But... my dad drinks a fair bit and he's 46 now, and he's healthy and fine O_ O He isn't a raging alcoholic, but he drinks a fair bit =D


Alcohol = Hard to OD on, if you have less than a 40 oz of 40 % alcohol, some people in high school can drink 2 litres of rum, and just pass out for a day or more It happened to a friend of a friend of mine. Seriously.

[Cuteangel333]

Unless you're gangsta, in which case yo ass is gonna show off and shoot 3 pounds of coke /overexagerate

xD

But... my dad drinks a fair bit and he's 46 now, and he's healthy and fine O_ O He isn't a raging alcoholic, but he drinks a fair bit =D
Alcohol = Hard to OD on, if you have less than a 40 oz of 40 % alcohol, some people in high school can drink 2 litres of rum, and just pass out for a day or more It happened to a friend of a friend of mine. Seriously.

You know what? I want to make a video of my self snorting 3 lines of coke, just to show all your asses.

So what? Your dad drinks and he's fine. I do drugs occassionally and I'm fine. I can still program, maintain my grades and my memory is great.

I know more people who have gotten alcohol poisoning than people who have overdosed on drugs.

Also, drugs like LSD and MDMA can produce experiences that genuinely expand your mind. I'm pretty sure alcohol just makes you disoriented and feel funny (I've never been drunk).

Edited by InfamousX241, 04 July 2006 - 05:44 PM.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Typical druggie talk

I love it when druggies use the "it's not as bad as everyone thinks" argument. It's especially funny because there is so much evidence against it, but they continue to insist that it's not that harmful.

On another note, once again, Neopets forum. I'm sure there are places where other unfortunates want to hear about it. Being passionate about something doesn't automatically mean you have the right to spew it wherever you want, especially in this case.

Edited by BrknPhoenix, 04 July 2006 - 05:44 PM.

[Christopher Robin]

Brkn, it ISN'T as bad as everyone thinks...



QUOTE(trixx @ Jul 4 2006, 05:00 PM)

Er, it isn't way worse than a lot of drugs... PLUS it's at least partially legal. All it does is hurt brain cells/kill them, and hurt your liver. Other drugs usually do more than that. And most are addictive, alcohol isn't physically addictive, it's all in alcoholics heads.


Infamous Says:

Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells OR hurt your liver. Many drugs don't put through the liver through much stress. Also, few drugs (I can only think of Heroin) are physically addictive.



BUT, Marijuana is bad for your PHYSICAL health. That's hard to OD on too Apparently, damned near impossible.




EDIT: Cody, wowzorz. High tolerance much? If I'm right, that's a shit load.

Edited by trixx, 04 July 2006 - 05:50 PM.

[pyke]

So what? What if I asked "Who here has ever shoplifted" or "Who here has ever gone over the speed limit"?

I was just offering a possible explanation, possibly another staff member is more up to date on neocodexs hosts tos then I am. No need to get snippy.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Another question... why do people that do drugs think others want to hear their stories about doing drugs?

[Cuteangel333]

I agree with all of that.. except all opiates/quasi-opiates/and semi-synthetic opiates can cause physical addiction.

that and my name is cody..

Ah yes, I was going to mention opiates but I wasn't sure if they were physically addictive.

I love it when druggies use the "it's not as bad as everyone thinks" argument. It's especially funny because there is so much evidence against it, but they continue to insist that it's not that harmful.

On another note, once again, Neopets forum. I'm sure there are places where other unfortunates want to hear about it. Being passionate about something doesn't automatically mean you have the right to spew it wherever you want, especially in this case.

Typical druggie talk? If everyone criticized people who drink, they'd say the same thing, but they'd have to lie to defend themselves.

I know drugs are harmful, I never denied that. But when you look at how harmful they are in comparison to other things you do everyday, it's really not a huge deal. Ex. Some guy with a Ph.D took 100 caps of ecstasy throughout his schooling and he did fine. Not that one example reflects everyone, but you get the point.

[Justin]

Well... I can agree with both sides I see here

A lot of people say Its not that harmful. Chances are, the only people who say it is, are the ones who dont actually do it.

Also Infamous. I know its hard for you to accept some peoples oppinions about drugs here. And that alchohal is legal while drugs arent. And that other things are dangerous. But we dont control the law. And this is neopets forum. I really think you should go a different one to discuss drugs, or maybe start an chat of some sort? But please dont blame the people here for it.

Sorry =\

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Brkn, it ISN'T as bad as everyone thinks...

I think that it's consumed enough people that they feel the need to talk about it on a Neopets forum speaks volumes.

And no, it isn't as bad as people think... I forgot about all the successful crack-addicted lawyers and heroin-shooting doctors out there. (and I hope you note the heavy sarcasm)

[Cuteangel333]

Another question... why do people that do drugs think others want to hear their stories about doing drugs?

Oh really? I don't know about you but I have yet to talk about any of my trips. I was merely asking who did drugs. Period.

Also, Cody, I am probably one of the few who wont look at you differently for doing cocaine.

I forgot about all the successful crack-addicted lawyers and heroin-shooting doctors out there. (and I hope you note the heavy sarcasm)

The thing is, all the normal people who do drugs are impossible to pick out from a crowd, you just see the addicted ones and those who are heavy users.

Edited by InfamousX241, 04 July 2006 - 05:52 PM.

[pyke]

A lot of people say Its not that harmful. Chances are, the only people who say it is, are the ones who dont actually do it.

People that say it is not harmful are one of two things. Either entirely uneducated on anything about drugs or well learned in the subject and know how to minimize damage and danger (take cody for example )