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[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Here's a recent story if you don't know what's going on: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13707036/

I decided to make this topic because I'm watching the news right now, and apparently a recent poll shows that 77% of Palestinians approve of the kidnapping of the Israeli soldier, and 67% approve of further kidnappings. Discuss.

[redlion]

I honestly have no idea what to do about it. If hamas is unwilling to negotiate for the return of the soldier, I don't know what they have that Israel wants.

[Tetiel]

I really think it's a bit unnessesary and actually kind of sickening that so many support even more. The problem is... if I'm not correct that if you are an Israeli citizen you MUST serve in the military or at least have training. Do correct me if I'm wrong... so if that is true than you're kidnapping someone who really you aren't even sure they support what's going on. It's absolutely silly. Why must you do that to someone innocent? It just seems all too extreme to me. I understand why they're doing it but... they'd be better off and they'd have more of the world's support if they protested peacefully. *sigh*

[Ilya]

Well.. it is true.. you have to serve int eh military.. but alot of teens are ok with that.. Boys and girls have to serve there.. when I went there my causins were ok with that, so is my causin who is a girl... bombings happen there almost everyday.. they want to go there... they have training in the military but you actually choose if you want to go to war and fight for your country...

My cousin chosed to go to war, and there he was standing in the battlefeild with his sergent.. and he was standing talking and bookm someone shot his sergent right in the head... and my cousin was only 18 back then.. emagine? your sergant shot right infront of you?

[Christopher Robin]

Over there is all shot to hell... I think everyone should just move away and leave their terrorist asses behind. Who needs terrorists? xD Just leave the terrorists there, and let them terrorize each other...

[Hydrogen]

Pomroy, on Jul 9 2006, 06:21 PM, said:

Over there is all shot to hell... I think everyone should just move away and leave their terrorist asses behind. Who needs terrorists? xD Just leave the terrorists there, and let them terrorize each other...

The problem exists in both parties. Its not all that simple and is actually much more complicated than you could put into a single post.

[amyjia]

*sighs* Have no Palestinian Soldiers ever been kidnapped by Israeli Soldiers? Have no Palestinian Soldiers been killed by Israeli Soldiers? The battle is not one sided. In westernized countries,(especially Uinted States) the media tends to demonize people who in anyway "attack" Israel. Both sides should stop the fighting and come to a peaceful agreement, however, with such strong beliefs coming from BOTH sides, this has proven to be a very hard task indeed.

[Tetiel]

Hydrogen, on Jul 9 2006, 10:28 PM, said:

The problem exists in both parties. Its not all that simple and is actually much more complicated than you could put into a single post.

Indeed. Afterall there ARE Israeli terrorists too *sigh* if only Rabin had lived... maybe there may have been more peace.

It's a little hard to take sides seeming as how.. well... no side is innocent.

[Hydrogen]

Tetiel, on Jul 10 2006, 01:34 PM, said:

Indeed. Afterall there ARE Israeli terrorists too *sigh* if only Rabin had lived... maybe there may have been more peace.

It's a little hard to take sides seeming as how.. well... no side is innocent.

Its pretty dangerous when that is the case but neither side is willing to accept that fact

[Tetiel]

Hydrogen, on Jul 10 2006, 03:30 PM, said:

Its pretty dangerous when that is the case but neither side is willing to accept that fact

*chuckles* of course they won't. Hardly any country will say they're wrong.

[Hydrogen]

Tetiel, on Jul 10 2006, 03:36 PM, said:

*chuckles* of course they won't. Hardly any country will say they're wrong.

Especially ours . No WMD's, so use propaganda to get Americans to believe that Iraq's Invasion was justified because Saddam was a bad guy. This is of course better than launching an investigation into why intelligence was so bad .

[Hydrogen]

Im not looking for a debate on Iraq as we all know how that goes down but I dont understand how anyone could rationally believe that when Bush's advisors warned him that Iraq would delve into virtual civil war if he invaded coupled with the fact that post 9/11 Bush wanted his officials to find some links to Iraq. The invasion was clearly a preset agenda and thus i dont know how anyone could find it justified.

[Ilya]

and you do know that jews are related to Palastinians right?

[Hydrogen]

Adobe, on Jul 10 2006, 07:21 PM, said:

and you do know that jews are related to Palastinians right?

Of course. The Jewish people are descendants of Abraham's, peace be upon him, younger son Isaac. The Palestinians are Arabs who are descendants of Abraham's, peace be upon him, eldest son Ismael.

Basically we are all semites and it is pointless to be fighting but

[redlion]

Hydrogen, on Jul 10 2006, 09:26 PM, said:

Of course. The Jewish people are descendants of Abraham's, peace be upon him, younger son Isaac. The Palestinians are Arabs who are descendants of Abraham's, peace be upon him, eldest son Ismael.

Basically we are all semites and it is pointless to be fighting but

I wish more people saw it your way.