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#1 Cript

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:42 PM

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Price wasn't too bad, will have to see how the product works for me when it arrives.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:47 PM

Wow, why do you need a terabyte?

The only reason I would consider that is if I was running a server tongue.gif

#3 Mr. Hobo

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:48 PM

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Cons: Not much of a con but i really wished it came with at least 950gbs of storage. It comes formatted to 931gbs for me.


Woah, 70gb to format. And I thought that my computer loosing 11 was bad tongue.gif

I won't need a new one for a while, 200gb is fine. I had it up to like 160 or so with all the games/(porn) movies/programs I could possibly want tongue.gif

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:49 PM

I'll probably invest in something like this a little later when the prices fall a little bit tongue.gif. Perhaps after college tongue.gif.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE(Mr. Hobo @ Feb 28 2007, 03:48 PM) View Post
Woah, 70gb to format. And I thought that my computer loosing 11 was bad tongue.gif

I won't need a new one for a while, 200gb is fine. I had it up to like 160 or so with all the games/(porn) movies/programs I could possibly want tongue.gif

I lost 18gb and was pissed lol.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:11 PM

And here I am, satisfied with my tiny little 80gb hard drive tongue.gif

#7 Hydrogen

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:15 PM

On my desktop, I have two 80gb HDs and a external 250gb HD which I got from Woot.com during the December woot-off tongue.gif. In my laptop a 40gb HD tongue.gif. So that comes out to be about .45 TB tongue.gif.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE(dolphinbomb @ Feb 28 2007, 06:11 PM) View Post
And here I am, satisfied with my tiny little 80gb hard drive tongue.gif

Same XD

#9 Chris

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:19 PM

yeah tell us what you have that that's 1 TB tongue.gif how many GB is that? 1000?

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE(Chris @ Feb 28 2007, 04:19 PM) View Post
yeah tell us what you have that that's 1 TB tongue.gif how many GB is that? 1000?

1024 I think.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE(Chris @ Feb 28 2007, 04:19 PM) View Post
yeah tell us what you have that that's 1 TB tongue.gif how many GB is that? 1000?
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A terabyte (derived from the prefix tera-) is a measurement term for data storage capacity equal to 1000 gigabytes, i.e. one trillion (short scale) bytes. It is commonly abbreviated TB. "Terabytes" are often intended to mean tebibytes (i.e. 10244 instead of 10004). Because of the potential for confusion this creates, a number of technical standards and legal entities have recommended against this use in the past few years (see below).
This explains it well and has a chart too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabyte

I like charts smile.gif.

#12 ShadowLink64

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 06:12 PM

I have:
250GB + 80GB (both on the desktop downstairs) + 160GB (on laptop) = 490GB (half a terabyte tongue.gif)

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE(Sean @ Feb 28 2007, 03:47 PM) View Post
Wow, why do you need a terabyte?

The only reason I would consider that is if I was running a server tongue.gif


I have 300 GB of movies alone.
about 90 GB of music.

I'd guess about 12 GB in images.
I can see how he'd need a terrabyte. tongue.gif

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 06:34 PM

I have 50gb left so I'm good for now biggrin.gif

But good luck with that terabyte.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 06:56 PM

Yes, losing 70 gigs to marketing sucks...my need for this is primarily for research. I want to start teaching myself all the popular backup technologies used in the IT industry, be it ghost, or acronis, or backup exec...I'd also like to start toying with different unix builds...I love scaleable things like this though, because I can make it into a server someday if I want.

One crappy thing here is of course that it's only one drive. I couldn't do anything else because I currently use a laptop and docking station as my workstation so being external was required...in a perfect world, I'd have gotten 4 250gb drives so I could toy with RAID.

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 07:13 PM

A yottabyte (derived from the SI prefix yotta-) is a unit of information or computer storage equal to one septillion (one long scale quadrillion or 1024) bytes. It is commonly abbreviated YB. At this time, no computer has one yottabyte of storage. Because of a traditional inconsistency, "yottabytes" are often intended to mean yobibytes in common speech. This usage is not recommended as it creates confusion (see below) and has been facing increasing opposition by many technical standards and legal entities in the past few years.[citation needed]

Because of irregularities in the definition and usage of terms for byte multiples, the exact number can be either one of the following:

* 1 septillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes — 10008, or 1024.
* 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 bytes — 10248, or 280.

Because of these irregularities, the term "yobibyte" has been proposed as an unambiguous reference to the latter value. (See binary prefixes.)

It has been theorized that everything in the entire universe could be stored in one yottabyte of data

Edited by Kronos¡¢, 28 February 2007 - 07:14 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2007 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE(Kronos¡¢ @ Feb 28 2007, 09:13 PM) View Post
A yottabyte (derived from the SI prefix yotta-) is a unit of information or computer storage equal to one septillion (one long scale quadrillion or 1024) bytes. It is commonly abbreviated YB. At this time, no computer has one yottabyte of storage. Because of a traditional inconsistency, "yottabytes" are often intended to mean yobibytes in common speech. This usage is not recommended as it creates confusion (see below) and has been facing increasing opposition by many technical standards and legal entities in the past few years.[citation needed]

Because of irregularities in the definition and usage of terms for byte multiples, the exact number can be either one of the following:

* 1 septillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes — 10008, or 1024.
* 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 bytes — 10248, or 280.

Because of these irregularities, the term "yobibyte" has been proposed as an unambiguous reference to the latter value. (See binary prefixes.)

It has been theorized that everything in the entire universe could be stored in one yottabyte of data


Original systems designers said people would never need more than 100mb of hd space

Bill Gates said people would never need over 600k of RAM smile.gif

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 12:26 AM

Bad call going with external man.

You hould have gone with internal. USB 2.0 has terrible write speed (compared to PATA or SATA).

Honestly, better deal would have been this configuration:
4 x http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822144701
+ http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815124020
($324.95 + S&H)
OR

2 x http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148108
+ http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815124020
(324.97 + S&H)
That would have been cheaper + faster speeds than the external. Just configure it for Striping and you would have had a 1 Terabyte partition. tongue.gif

Powering tha towuld be nothing. You would need a 500 Watt power supply (probably already have that). Maybe some connectors:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812101106 ($1.29) To split standard power cables.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812119010 ($2.49) To convert standard power adapter to SATA.

Total cost for all of that is under $350.

Even if you needed a power supply to stand all that: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817170010

That's still under what you paid for that external.

#19 shabba

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 06:03 AM

If you need that much space, would it not been easier to spend a little more and build a basic spec PC running a distro of linux, that way you could have it as a centeral server which your desktop can sync to using the full capabilities of the docking station? Also that way you would have one centeral server which you could use anywhere around the world? I have one sitting next to me at the moment. Couldn't live without it, at the moment it has a 200gb drive about 12gb is already taken for windows 2003 Server, I have azureuz running on it with XML over HTTP, I wrote a php script that shows me my upload and downloads and lets me start new ones whenever I please. From anywhere! Im looking at upgrading my desktop from its 280gb to around 1.5TB SATA drives and have them set so people can boot off my harddrive over network.. That way I can turn any computer I like into my own OS. Pretty cool eh?

#20 Cript

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 06:59 AM

QUOTE(Christopher Wayne Young @ Mar 1 2007, 02:26 AM) View Post
Bad call going with external man.

You hould have gone with internal. USB 2.0 has terrible write speed (compared to PATA or SATA).

Honestly, better deal would have been this configuration:
4 x http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822144701
+ http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815124020
($324.95 + S&H)
OR

2 x http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822148108
+ http://www.newegg.co...N82E16815124020
(324.97 + S&H)
That would have been cheaper + faster speeds than the external. Just configure it for Striping and you would have had a 1 Terabyte partition. tongue.gif

Powering tha towuld be nothing. You would need a 500 Watt power supply (probably already have that). Maybe some connectors:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812101106 ($1.29) To split standard power cables.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812119010 ($2.49) To convert standard power adapter to SATA.

Total cost for all of that is under $350.

Even if you needed a power supply to stand all that: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817170010

That's still under what you paid for that external.


How would I go internal with a laptop? I said in my earlier post that I use a laptop with a docking station so external is everything to me...plus, I enjoy having the thing not be a part of my pc 24/7 just in case the whole computer would fry, I'd still have a drive safe.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 07:43 AM

QUOTE(Cript @ Mar 1 2007, 09:59 AM) View Post
How would I go internal with a laptop? I said in my earlier post that I use a laptop with a docking station so external is everything to me...plus, I enjoy having the thing not be a part of my pc 24/7 just in case the whole computer would fry, I'd still have a drive safe.

Hehe. Sorry. In my need to try to seem cool I must have overlooked that post.

ANywho. Do what shabba said. That's actually what I am currently setting up in my home. Just put Linux on my linksys router (better configuration options). All I have to do is "buy" my copy of Win2003, install. Move som stuff aorund. Then I will have my setup working. I gotta call Hughesnet and bitch them out though. They don't allow you to run a server behind their router. It's all because of their NAT and refusal to forward IPs. Bitches. Maybe I can hack it.

#22 Cript

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE(Christopher Wayne Young @ Mar 1 2007, 09:43 AM) View Post
Hehe. Sorry. In my need to try to seem cool I must have overlooked that post.

ANywho. Do what shabba said. That's actually what I am currently setting up in my home. Just put Linux on my linksys router (better configuration options). All I have to do is "buy" my copy of Win2003, install. Move som stuff aorund. Then I will have my setup working. I gotta call Hughesnet and bitch them out though. They don't allow you to run a server behind their router. It's all because of their NAT and refusal to forward IPs. Bitches. Maybe I can hack it.


Actually, shabba's plan is something I intend to implement as the weeks go on...lucky for me, as a network engineer now, I don't need to mod a wrt54g since I have all the cisco routers I want :-P. Anyways, shabba's setup will require some time that I'll eventually invest. One key point in buying this though is that I can easily throw it on a desktop if I need to and use it as external backup for that...I personally enjoy the flexibility of being external since my 2 primaries are both laptops.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 09:21 AM

I wouldn't 'throw' it around cript the bastards are delicate! haha.

Im a Cisco engineer by trade, CCNA external im working on my CCNP at the moment, but I am going into the programming sides of things because I love to program smile.gif

Chris - There is an easier way smile.gif Install 2003, chuck a secondary ethernet card inside. Use the new eth1 to connect straight from your cable line. Then from your on-board run out to Switch(Layer 3 FTW!) then from there you can go to access points and so on, that way you can control all of the nat,internet access, ip cops, firewalls directly from your server its called routing and remote access. Unless you wanna build a redhat box and load group policy's onto that. Thats a brilliant way of handling things! I have it in my house (2003) I control all of the internet with a gigabyte switch and a cisco access point I think its a 1110 they are really nice..

Group Policy's are what you wanna read up on, I have created a few scripts that log what time people log on and and what time they are log off at, not much but its good for internet controlling. Also I have NPTS which is time setting, it allows all the computers on your network to have exactly the same time set from time.microsoft.com I think.

VPN - If anyone here has ever used it its a definite must have for a network! I use janus which is based on the tor protocol, basically it hides your IP so instead of setting up a proxy you use a logical connection rather than a physical one. I run it on my server, and all connections through it run using tor so my ip is always hidden, unless I want to use it for something normal, its brilliant! I have it on a VM. That way I can allow certain ports and forward the others. I have msn on tor, my sister is on tor and my mum, basically because I dont trust them on my network! I don't use it for anyhting else accept msn I feel safer that way..

If you need any other info on servers gimmie a shout. I am just about to take my Server+ exam and Security+ wooh!

#24 Greeny

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 09:06 PM

im happy with the 40gb one i have now. but i need alot more now that i download heaps of warez etc.

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Posted 01 March 2007 - 09:56 PM

Shabba.... Funny you should mention. WHile I wa at school I actually drew up a plan (in OOcalc) on my new network setyup. It's pretty much exactl like you said. Get on MSN and confer with me as I want to ahve all the bugs knocked out before I get started.



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