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#1 Rikku

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 02:04 PM

OK WELL THIS HAS CAUSED ENOUGH ARGUMENTS! i took it down becuase it looks too much like a similar guide posted on GG. I will probably write another one soon, once i get an idea for a new layout. I'll post it here later.
Credits: Rikku of NeoCodex, I worte this guide myself so no one better even think about ripping this!! Took me the whole morning to write! This is not to be posted anywhere else withot me written permission!
~Crayon: for helping me rewrite this guide with no spelling errors tongue.gif
~BarCode: for cathing even more mistakes that I have made in the guide. Thanks, your help is greatly appreciated!
~Kitsune: for helping me word things better as English isn't exactly my first lingo wink.gif.


If you find any errors in here please PM me so i can fix them, credit will be given.

Edited by Rikku, 21 July 2007 - 09:03 PM.


#2 Chew

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:13 PM

Guide looks very nice, well written and very informative.

#3 Icey Defeat

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 05:48 PM

Its a guide, but a damn good one. Thanks so much for your contribution!

#4 gfgrice

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:59 PM

Very good, and useful. I didn't even know about the Account Age-->Item thing. I thought everybody sees the same item in the shop?

#5 Rikku

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 11:00 PM

yeah i figured not many people knew about that so i put it in as the last thing there is..

i wonder what else i should write a guide about

#6 Crayon

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 12:48 AM

Copied guide but with no spelling mistakes:

~Autobuying Guide~

Introduction to Autobuying
The absolutely best and the only way to make serious NP on Neopets is to Restock. You can make a massive amount of NP this way, and obviously make everyone wonder how you do it tongue.gif.. But restocking is very boring. Having to sit and refresh the same page over and over half a million times isn't exactly exciting, or even worth it for that matter. And here's when autobuying comes in. All you have to do is open your AutoBuyer, set it up, and leave it running for a few hours. It's a great way of making tons of NP and it doesn't require a lot of effort.
Choosing your Weapon
When choosing your AutoBuyer you want to make sure that it's easy to use yet provides great results, and doesn't get your account iced.Here are some good features to look for.
  1. Something that shows your stats. (Username, Pet, NP you have in hand, etc)
  2. Minimizes to your system tray
  3. Automatically checks for RS bans, and sleeps if you are banned instead of pointlessly refreshing.
  4. Shows a log of what you bought, missed, and attempted to buy.
  5. Has a feature that lets you set a random refresh interval.
  6. Let's you choose what shop you can AB at and let's you load a custom list for that shop.
There are quite a few available to our members right here on NeoCodex. But you have to be active and help out in order to earn the right to use them. So set your sight high and aim to atleast be an Advanced Member!

Minimizing your Chances of Getting Frozen
So you want to make massive amounts of NP and not get iced? Wee, no Ab is 100% safe to use BUT there are things you could do to minimize your chances of getting iced.
  1. Don't EVER use your main account to AutoBuy things on, this way if you do get iced hopefully your profits won't all go down the drain.
  2. Don't have your Autobuyer refresh every .0000001 seconds, that's not smart (this is where that custom refresh rate come in handy) set your AB to refresh every 5-8 seconds or so. Remember faster refresh rate will get you more items BUT it will also exponentially increase your chances of getting iced. use a refresh rate that you're comfortable with.
  3. Restock things that don't look uberly suspicious, people would suspect something if you had your trades packed with UB Morphing Potions on a 1 week old account.
  4. Don't leave your AB on for more then a few hours at a time. Not even the best restocker on Neopets can stay in a shop for 12 hours straight.
Hiding the Relationship of your Side Account to your Main Account
So you decided to use your side accounts for your Ab needs ? Good ! Well it will all be for nothing if you don't hide the relationship between the 2 accounts. Ever heard of chain freezing? That's when TNT freezes ALL of your accounts, even if you didn't cheat on all of them, and they sure love doing that!
  • When making your side account never use the same info as you did for your main account (age, location, date of birth, name, etc..)
  • You should also set up proxies when you are going to use your side account, or even better use a different IP address.
  • You could also call your internet provider to have them change your IP for you, but this might get a little annoying for them to do, and for you as well.
Transferring your Items
OK so you got your first UB item? Good, but DON'T JUST SEND IT OVER TO YOUR MAIN! That will give it away and both accounts could be iced in the near future. There are however certain things that you could do to thrown TNT for a spin so they wouldn't be able to track you and your transactions.
Again when transferring cheap items from one account to another use NF auctions or the Tp and make a noob offer, wait an hour or two to show that it's not the same person accepting as soon as you make the offer. Do the same thing for the more expensive items but offer more Np on the auctions or whatever but don't ever just send it over as a gift, thats a dead giveaway!

Autobuying Lists
Because of the frequent changes in the Neopian economy, prices of items may inflate or deflate, and lose it's value. So it would be wise to update your lists often and take off the stuff that wouldn't make profit anymore, and at the same time add the ones that gained value.
Also try not to use anyone else's Lists, because Abers ususally look for things in the shops in order of the lists, so if an useb expensive item appears and everyove's lists are the same EVERYONE will try to get that item and your chances of getting that item have just plummeted. I'm not saying don't put expencive items on your list, just rearrange your lists so it's unique.
All of my lists are currently outdated so you'll probably be better off making your own or using some of lists provided by our other members.
Account Age
Last but not least, your account age has a HUGE impact on the items that you can see in the main shops. The older your account ages more expensive and rare things will start appearing in the shops, so you'll be able to make more profit as you go. This is what i believe to be TNT's attempt @ stopping ABing... it hasn't been too efficient so far.

> 1 month: You can only see items r89 and below.
1 month: You can see up to r94 items
3+ months: You can now see up to r95+ items


Credits: Rikku of NeoCodex, I wrote this guide myself so no one better even think about ripping this!! Took me the whole morning to write! This is not to be posted anywhere else without my written permission!
If you find any errors in here please PM me so i can fix them, credit will be given.

Does this count as a tutorial??


Btw nice guide smile.gif Took me like 15 minutes to spell check everything tongue.gif

Edited by Crayon, 10 July 2007 - 09:26 AM.


#7 Rikku

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:17 AM

took me the whole morning to write and make sure that i had it all right, and that i didn't miss anything i wanted to put in there... so thanks for proofreading and posting the updated version!! you were credited @ the bottom tongue.gif

#8 Crayon

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:19 AM

Thank you smile.gif

Edit - Mind if you copy and paste it once more? I missed a few mistakes, did it at 2:00AM and proof read it again 10:28 AM tongue.gif

- Seems like you didn't overwrite it yet O.o

Edited by Crayon, 10 July 2007 - 09:30 AM.


#9 Rikku

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 10:05 AM

hmmm i could of sworn that i replaced it with your version.... oh well it's done now.. for sure

#10 Crayon

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:48 AM

Lol, was wondering why there were still spelling mistakes. tongue.gif

#11 mim

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:17 PM

arent ABers only available for private members?

#12 Chew

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE(mim @ Jul 12 2007, 06:17 PM) View Post
arent ABers only available for private members?

you can use the user shop auto buyer as a normal member, and main shop auto buyers for advanced members as well. But some of the members here have their own main shop auto buyers they have made or gotten elsewhere.

Edited by mastachew, 12 July 2007 - 03:25 PM.


#13 Hazard

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:28 PM

Hey Rikku nice guide bruv...

Edited by ĦÅŽÁŕď2ØŤĤẻѓŻ, 12 July 2007 - 03:29 PM.


#14 Hazard

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE(Kitsune @ Jul 12 2007, 11:43 PM) View Post
Also there is no place (as far as I know anyway tongue.gif ) that you can post for advance members+ so even if regular members see it, it's not a big deal.



Well maybe we should add a place for advance members and above tongue.gif

#15 Chew

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE(Kitsune @ Jul 12 2007, 06:43 PM) View Post
Also there is no place (as far as I know anyway tongue.gif) that you can post for advance members+ so even if regular members see it, it's not a big deal.


Can normal members see the topic discussions for the advanced programs? If not then that would be a place. Not sure what else they would need a special forum to post in for? I am not saying it is a bad idea just wondering what the need for it is?

#16 BarCode

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:18 PM

I found 4 mistakes!

1.
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if an useb expensive item appears and everyove's lists are the same EVERYONE wil


2.
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I'm not saying don't put expencive items on your list


3.
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The older your account ages more expensive and rare things will start appearing in the shops,


4.
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aim to atleast be


1. everyove's should be 'everyone's'
2. expencive should be expensive
3. Not too sure about this phrase, sounds irky to me. Something like 'The older your account becomes,...'
4. You forgot the space between 'at' and 'least'

I couldn't be bothered to PM you =P

#17 Rikku

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 04:40 PM

ok i'll edit thouse in as soon as i get a chance... thanks guys

EDIT: Updated!! thanks for catching thouse guys!!! Also credit was given to both of ya tongue.gif

Edited by Rikku, 12 July 2007 - 04:52 PM.


#18 mim

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 07:39 PM

Wow! thanks guys.


ohh Aber *drools*

thatd be making np 10x easier.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:29 PM

QUOTE(mim @ Jul 12 2007, 10:39 PM) View Post
Wow! thanks guys.
ohh Aber *drools*

thatd be making np 10x easier.


Yeah they also get you frozen 10x faster.

#20 Rikku

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE(Kitsune @ Jul 12 2007, 09:01 PM) View Post
I don't know, I'm not really much into programs mostly... but it would be for this purpose - guides and tutes for advance members

That sounds like a wonderful idea!!!! that would be soo cool to have separate guides for advanced+ and stufff..

#21 SgtBeaver

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 11:25 PM

I really can't wait till I'm an advanced member, and considering I joined yesterday I still have a long way to go...

I just wish I could figure out these UAB's, they don't seem to work for me. sad.gif

Oh well, at least it's nice to see a site where people actually care about grammar and spelling. smile.gif

#22 mim

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 06:30 AM

loll

i wouldnt be abing on my main anwyays:P


#23 arthritis

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 10:06 PM

thanks for this fantabulous guide!

#24 gfgrice

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 02:51 AM

Um i just found this is ripped off of another website. Don't think im allowed to post the website but um if your not jn_gmlvr then this is copy and pasted. With just some editing


This is the normal version from the other website. This post was on March-16-07
Also i removed the links that were on the normal post cuz it leads to another website.
-Guide on Autobuying-

Introduction to Autobuying
The BEST way to earn NP on Neopets is through restocking. You make massive profits from them, and you are obviously earning more NP than people who only play games. But restocking is very boring. You have to sit and refresh for hours and hours watching the same page 1,000 times hoping for something profitable to show up.
And here's when autobuying comes in. You just leave your autobuyer refreshing at a certain shop with the list of items of your choice and it automatically gets them for you. It's a great way of making tons of NP and it doesn't require a lot of effort.

Choosing your Autobuyer
When choosing your autobuyer you want to get the one that has good features and would minimize your chances of getting frozen.
Here are some good features to look for.
  • Something that shows your stats. (Username, Pet, NP you have in hand, etc)
  • Has random refresh intervals
  • Enables GZIP
  • Automatically checks for RS bans
  • Shows a log of activites
  • Minimizes to your system tray
There are 2 available main shop auto buyers here at CN.
Main Shop Auto Buyer (available to level 2 members and above)
Psycho Auto Buyer (exclusive to premium CN members)

Minimizing your Chances of Getting Frozen
So you want to AB but don't want your main account to get frozen? Well, we can't assure that but there are some things that you could to to lessen your chances of getting caught.
  • Never ever use your main account when you're autobuying. I suggest you use a side with a different email address.
  • Don't set it to refresh at a very fast rate. Try every 6-8 seconds.
  • Restock things that suits your account age. You wouldn't like having a newbie account with 50 unbuyables restocked.
  • Don't leave it running for very long periods of time. Not even a top notch restocker can refresh for 16 hours straight.
Hiding the Relationship of your Side Account to your Main Account
So you decided to use a side account for autobuying? Well that will all be worthless if you don't hide it's relationship from your main. Because TNT loves chain freezing.
  • When making your ABing account, always use an email address and stats (name, age, date of birth, etc.) different from your main account.
  • You should also set up proxies when you are going to use your side account.
  • If you want to learn more about proxies and setting them up then you may use this guide.
  • OR you could change your IP address by using Xalyx's guides on how to change dynamic and static IP addresses.

Transferring your Items
Now that you have the stuff you want, of course you want them to be on your main. But there are certain things that you must do so that TNT wouldn't be suspicious of what you're doing.
  • When transferring items worth 500,000 NP - 1,000,000 NP+, don't just send it over to your main. Instead, use the trading post and get your main account to make a noob offer on it, say 10k-30k.
  • Don't accept the offer the minute it has been made. It would help if you would wait a couple of hours to show that you live in different timezones or something.
Autobuying Lists
Because of the frequent changes in the Neopian economy, prices of items may inflate or deflate, and lose it's value. So it would be wise to update your lists often and take off the stuff that wouldn't make profit anymore, and at the same time add the ones that gained value.

Click here for a thread of compiled AB Lists

Account Age
Yes, your account age matters when you're RSing/ABing. The older your account is, the better the things you're gonna see when you're ABing.

> 1 month: You can only see items r89 and below.
1 month: You can see up to r94 items
3+ months: You can now see up to r95+ items

And my guide to autobuying comes to an end. I hope it helps everyone.
If you want to learn how to RS and don't want to use an Autobuyer, you can check out
Kane's Guide to Restocking.

Edited by gfgrice, 21 July 2007 - 02:55 AM.


#25 arthritis

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:11 AM

can PM me the link of the guide you've just posted?


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