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[Grizzly]

I just don't understand

I found an article yesterday that links marijuana usage with promoted neurogenesis.

Found another article that suggest marijuan prevents blindness for diabetics.

Edited by Freak, 13 September 2008 - 06:13 PM.

[Nick]

I smoke at least 5 times a week, regardless of legality. It'd be nice to be able to smoke on the streets though.

[Waser Lave]

Probably because the government doesn't make any money off it, it's more difficult to tax and regulate than cigarettes.

[Alex]

Cause people are close minded and dont question their beliefs. Look at the Republican party, most of them cant even admit that marijuana has medical benefits. Fuking old ass retards.
The DARE cop told me weed is bad mkay! It turns people stupid and makes them want to go on violent killing sprees with an axe!

Edited by Alex, 13 September 2008 - 05:58 PM.

[travis]

Because people make topics like this.

[Grizzly]

Probably because the government doesn't make any money off it, it's more difficult to tax and regulate than cigarettes.

But if it were legalized, the sale of it would be universal and the government would tax it like shit.
Saw an article on msnbc that showed the money the government would make if it were to legalize, and the numbers were pretty significant.

[Waser Lave]

But if it were legalized, the sale of it would be universal and the government would tax it like shit.
Saw an article on msnbc that showed the money the government would make if it were to legalize, and the numbers were pretty significant.

If they made it legal they'd be competing with home grown stuff and huge amounts which are imported, both of which wouldn't be taxed at all...

[Grizzly]

If they made it legal they'd be competing with home grown stuff and huge amounts which are imported, both of which wouldn't be taxed at all...

No they wouldn't. People would so much ratehr prefer to buy it from a gas station that has its products regulated than some shady ass nigro down the shadiest street in town. And if its open to the free market you can bet the weed sold legally would be FIRE. Think of all the fine ass bud cali has because medical marijuan is legal there.

[Raui]

No they wouldn't. People would so much ratehr prefer to buy it from a gas station that has its products regulated than some shady ass nigro down the shadiest street in town. And if its open to the free market you can bet the weed sold legally would be FIRE. Think of all the fine ass bud cali has because medical marijuan is legal there.

Thats true but what is you were the shady ass nigro who grew it, you'd know that it was all good. What I am trying to say is that everyone would grow their own. The seeds are what should be taxed if it was ever legalised.

[Waser Lave]

Thats true but what is you were the shady ass nigro who grew it, you'd know that it was all good. What I am trying to say is that everyone would grow their own. The seeds are what should be taxed if it was ever legalised.

And you wouldn't even really need seeds when you can just take cuttings of other plants.

[Ives]

Because otherwise the drug war would fall apart, and declaring a war on your own citizens provides a decent sum of money for you to spend on shit if you play your cards right - that is, having a soft drug as a scapegoat for getting more money from taxpayers.

The income tax is just much more illegal than marijuana, yet the unwritten rules let government take your money like the assholes they are. Then the company you work for stacks on more of their own shit to the payroll as opposed to their own profits. That to me is a fucking abomination, and probably the reason pot is still illegal in the first place.

"Give a man a fish and you will have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and - well first he'll have to get a fishing license, then he'll have to make sure his stock is approved by OHSA, the FDA, and every other bureaucratic organization you've not heard of. Oh, but that's not the end of it. He's going to need to make sure it's all okay with the Fishers Union and that he's approved by the union that he's not taking their fish and that he has the zoning license to fish in a specific government-located spot that's a long commute away. It is then, right before he realizes he won't be able to pay for gas and make ends meet, he'll get sued by some Jewish lawyer for deliberately making ill a consumer who didn't know they couldn't eat it raw without getting sick."

[redlion]

"Give a man a fish and you will have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and - well first he'll have to get a fishing license, then he'll have to make sure his stock is approved by OHSA, the FDA, and every other bureaucratic organization you've not heard of. Oh, but that's not the end of it. He's going to need to make sure it's all okay with the Fishers Union and that he's approved by the union that he's not taking their fish and that he has the zoning license to fish in a specific government-located spot that's a long commute away. It is then, right before he realizes he won't be able to pay for gas and make ends meet, he'll get sued by some Jewish lawyer for deliberately making ill a consumer who didn't know they couldn't eat it raw without getting sick."

I like that. I don't like big government very much. I like a bit of government interference with economy (not much) but government interference with private lives is disgusting.

It makes for an alienated populace.

[Jakerz]

No idea, I wrote a report on why it should be a while ago

[Ives]

I like that. I don't like big government very much. I like a bit of government interference with economy (not much) but government interference with private lives is disgusting.

It makes for an alienated populace.

I don't mind the idea of an 'equal start,' but otherwise I'm pretty much an anarchist/miniarchist as anyone who can read one paragraph of something I post (and understand it at all) already know. I like roads. I like vouchers. Then it starts to get foggy and results in too much abuse. Socialism isn't a fun time either. Collectivization of obligation and the
common good doesn't make for great individuals who actually help the common good through their own passions, no matter which economic system is your preference.

[nox]

Because otherwise the drug war would fall apart, and declaring a war on your own citizens provides a decent sum of money for you to spend on shit if you play your cards right - that is, having a soft drug as a scapegoat for getting more money from taxpayers.

The income tax is just much more illegal than marijuana, yet the unwritten rules let government take your money like the assholes they are. Then the company you work for stacks on more of their own shit to the payroll as opposed to their own profits. That to me is a fucking abomination, and probably the reason pot is still illegal in the first place.

"Give a man a fish and you will have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and - well first he'll have to get a fishing license, then he'll have to make sure his stock is approved by OHSA, the FDA, and every other bureaucratic organization you've not heard of. Oh, but that's not the end of it. He's going to need to make sure it's all okay with the Fishers Union and that he's approved by the union that he's not taking their fish and that he has the zoning license to fish in a specific government-located spot that's a long commute away. It is then, right before he realizes he won't be able to pay for gas and make ends meet, he'll get sued by some Jewish lawyer for deliberately making ill a consumer who didn't know they couldn't eat it raw without getting sick."

Yeah

[Jakerz]

Wouldn't marijuana being illegal cost the government more money though? For having to put all the possessions and stuff in jail. Jail costs a lot :\ I can't see anything bad coming from it being legal

[33724]

weed is bad mmmkay......

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[Jakerz]

weed is bad mmmkay......

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Also not allowed. I suggest you edit it out.

Edited by Jakerz, 14 September 2008 - 06:41 AM.

[Tofer566]

it's not like you can overdose on it either....the worst that can happen is you smoke to much and fall asleep or sit and watch tv for hours...

It dont make sense to me that alcohol is legal and weed isnt..... You cna drink yourself to death...you cant smoke yourself to death.....Plus people drive drunk all the time killing other people cuz they run stop signs and red lights.....when your high most people drive slower and more cautiously

[nox]

Wouldn't marijuana being illegal cost the government more money though? For having to put all the possessions and stuff in jail. Jail costs a lot :\ I can't see anything bad coming from it being legal

it costs the government billions a year to fight the war on marijuana, so that alone should make it worth it for such a petty "drug". it is also one of the biggest cash crops in the world, so if taxed properly it could save the US a lot of money

Edited by nox, 14 September 2008 - 07:11 AM.

[Jakerz]

it's not like you can overdose on it either....the worst that can happen is you smoke to much and fall asleep or sit and watch tv for hours...

It dont make sense to me that alcohol is legal and weed isnt..... You cna drink yourself to death...you cant smoke yourself to death.....Plus people drive drunk all the time killing other people cuz they run stop signs and red lights.....when your high most people drive slower and more cautiously

When you drive high your reaction times are slower = possible to run red lights, drive through stop signs, not able to stop in time if someone walks out in front of you. I wouldn't suggest driving while high or drunk

[Grizzly]

Thats true but what is you were the shady ass nigro who grew it, you'd know that it was all good. What I am trying to say is that everyone would grow their own. The seeds are what should be taxed if it was ever legalised.

The thing is, they would probably make selling marijuana illegal without a license as it is for alcohol (and cigarettes?) which would discourage a black market for it.

Perhaps people would grow their own shit and smoke it themselves, but I don't think that would effect the market much. Growing marijuana is a very long annoying process.. many wouldn't go through the hassle.

And if you look at when alcohol was illegal in the U.S. and then relegalized, there immediately was no longer a black market for alcohol.
As long as the price isn't ridiculous, people wouldn't care to grow it themselves or buy it illegally.

[Jakerz]

Yea marijuana is too hard to grow I bought a plant from my friend a while ago for 55 dollars but it died lol

Much easier/less hassle to just buy it Not too expensive either

[Grizzly]

Because otherwise the drug war would fall apart, and declaring a war on your own citizens provides a decent sum of money for you to spend on shit if you play your cards right - that is, having a soft drug as a scapegoat for getting more money from taxpayers.

The income tax is just much more illegal than marijuana, yet the unwritten rules let government take your money like the assholes they are. Then the company you work for stacks on more of their own shit to the payroll as opposed to their own profits. That to me is a fucking abomination, and probably the reason pot is still illegal in the first place.

"Give a man a fish and you will have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and - well first he'll have to get a fishing license, then he'll have to make sure his stock is approved by OHSA, the FDA, and every other bureaucratic organization you've not heard of. Oh, but that's not the end of it. He's going to need to make sure it's all okay with the Fishers Union and that he's approved by the union that he's not taking their fish and that he has the zoning license to fish in a specific government-located spot that's a long commute away. It is then, right before he realizes he won't be able to pay for gas and make ends meet, he'll get sued by some Jewish lawyer for deliberately making ill a consumer who didn't know they couldn't eat it raw without getting sick."

Even if your conspiracy theory were true.. wouldn't the taxing of legalized marijuana offset the losses from the money they steal from income taxes? Think of the billions the government makes from cigarettes. Now cigarettes actually have immense negative externalities because of the health problems it causes.

For marijuana, there arn't nearly as much neg externalities.. but you can bet the government would still pretend there was and tax it like shit.

[Grizzly]

Because otherwise the drug war would fall apart, and declaring a war on your own citizens provides a decent sum of money for you to spend on shit if you play your cards right - that is, having a soft drug as a scapegoat for getting more money from taxpayers.

The income tax is just much more illegal than marijuana, yet the unwritten rules let government take your money like the assholes they are. Then the company you work for stacks on more of their own shit to the payroll as opposed to their own profits. That to me is a fucking abomination, and probably the reason pot is still illegal in the first place.

"Give a man a fish and you will have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and - well first he'll have to get a fishing license, then he'll have to make sure his stock is approved by OHSA, the FDA, and every other bureaucratic organization you've not heard of. Oh, but that's not the end of it. He's going to need to make sure it's all okay with the Fishers Union and that he's approved by the union that he's not taking their fish and that he has the zoning license to fish in a specific government-located spot that's a long commute away. It is then, right before he realizes he won't be able to pay for gas and make ends meet, he'll get sued by some Jewish lawyer for deliberately making ill a consumer who didn't know they couldn't eat it raw without getting sick."

Even if your conspiracy theory were true.. wouldn't the taxing of legalized marijuana offset the losses from the money they steal from income taxes? Think of the billions the government makes from cigarettes. Now cigarettes actually have immense negative externalities because of the health problems it causes.

For marijuana, there arn't nearly as much neg externalities.. but you can bet the government would still pretend there was and tax it like shit.

Yea marijuana is too hard to grow I bought a plant from my friend a while ago for 55 dollars but it died lol

Much easier/less hassle to just buy it Not too expensive either

ya.. and homegrown shit isn't as good in quality i've always noticed.