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[Black Flame]

This episode makes things so confusing I don't even know where to begin.

I had the opposite reaction. Quite a few things make sense now.

[travis]

This episode covers one VERY important thing and a few other smaller "fillers" .

The last 2 episodes covered what happenned OFF the island between the time Locke left and they all arrived back on the siland.
This episode covered what happenned ON the island while Locke was gone.

Locke moving the wheel simultaneously fixed the time skipping AND shot him off the island. The time skipping was caused by Ben leaving the island. When he turned the wheel, it dislodged it. They are stuck now in 1974. Sawyer saves the woman, and then saves the Dharma people from being retaliated at by The Others. The DI allows Sawyer, Miles, Juliette and Daniel to stay for 2 weeks to "find their crew". During these 2 weeks (upcoming episodes hopefully cover this..) Sawyer and friends become a part of the DI (as show in the 3 years later flashforwards). Sawyer and friends needed to stay on the island to wait for Jack and friends to come back. Three years later, Jack and friends come back. end episode.

Somewhere in there, we learn that...
1) Richard Alpert does not age.
2) Whatever cause the epidemic where children could not be born has not happenned yet.
3) The Hydrogen Bomb "Jarhead"is buried somehwere on the island.

..if anyone wants to build on this, feel free.

[Reaper]

TJ, thank god you explained a few things cause I was totally confused. I mean I know a few of those things...but it doesn't make much sense. The only reason I say that, is because this was all in the past...which means, they were all there before (in time) which doesn't make sense because when they supposedly "crash" the "others" don't recognize them and Richard Alpert is still apart of them...I knew Richard never aged when they showed him visiting Locke as a young boy. Also, the woman having a baby doesn't actually say she got pregnant on the island. Claire's baby was fine, but she got pregnant off the island and that could be the case with this woman. The hydrogen bomb, has that ever come up on previous episodes, or just in the last few? I don't understand why they are making such a fuss about it. This eposiode was decent, it confused me....and I'm looking forward to seeing how they get their friends back into the group of the others. To me though, that raises more questions...if they don't somehow "skip" ahead in time, they will eventually see themselves "crash" on the island??? (and to make it even worse, some of them weren't even born in 74 ) If anyone can explain anything I'm talking about, that would be WONDERFUL lol

[Alex]

I also don't get the deal with the hydrogen bomb.

I'm also confused how Jack, Kate and others were able to go from 2000+ back to 1974 by visiting the island.

Do you guys remember when they found the overturned VW van with a corpse inside in the previous seasons? What did the nametag say? Wasnt it LeFleur?





PS: Kate needs to stop working out. When they showed her at the end, she has man shoulders.

Edited by Alex, 06 March 2009 - 12:42 PM.

[Reaper]

I also don't get the deal with the hydrogen bomb.

I'm also confused how Jack, Kate and others were able to go from 2000+ back to 1974 by visiting the island.

Do you guys remember when they found the overturned VW van with a corpse inside in the previous seasons? What did the nametag say? Wasnt it LeFleur?





PS: Kate needs to stop working out. When they showed her at the end, she has man shoulders.

I don't remember the name tag, but I thought it was Ben's father that guy ended up being, but I could be confusing things again. Also, didn't the others "wipe out" the dharma people? Oh god, this is so damn confusing. I can't stand Kate...don't know why, but I can guarantee if I was on that island with her, I'd beat her ass...lol. She is too cocky. But yeah, she is looking a tad more buff than what she needs too. I have no clue how they are able to go back in time, I would have assumed that they would stay in 2000 (whatever year it is) but who knows

[travis]

TJ, thank god you explained a few things cause I was totally confused. I mean I know a few of those things...but it doesn't make much sense. The only reason I say that, is because this was all in the past...which means, they were all there before (in time) which doesn't make sense because when they supposedly "crash" the "others" don't recognize them and Richard Alpert is still apart of them...I knew Richard never aged when they showed him visiting Locke as a young boy. Also, the woman having a baby doesn't actually say she got pregnant on the island. Claire's baby was fine, but she got pregnant off the island and that could be the case with this woman. The hydrogen bomb, has that ever come up on previous episodes, or just in the last few? I don't understand why they are making such a fuss about it. This eposiode was decent, it confused me....and I'm looking forward to seeing how they get their friends back into the group of the others. To me though, that raises more questions...if they don't somehow "skip" ahead in time, they will eventually see themselves "crash" on the island??? (and to make it even worse, some of them weren't even born in 74 ) If anyone can explain anything I'm talking about, that would be WONDERFUL lol

The Dharma Initiative brought the H-Bomb to the island. It has come up in previous episodes.
As for the others not recognizing them...you're applying the "whatever happenned, happenned" theory. This is really flip-floppy...and I think it's not to be taken verbatim. I believe it means that new events may be created, but these new events will not effect what happens in the future. They won't see themselves crash on the island....because they are no longer in the future. It's really mind boggling tbh. It's possible that they were there, became part of the DI, and were wiped out by the others, then crash again...the fact that they were wiped out by the others keeps them from colliding with their two selves.

I also don't get the deal with the hydrogen bomb.

I'm also confused how Jack, Kate and others were able to go from 2000+ back to 1974 by visiting the island.

Do you guys remember when they found the overturned VW van with a corpse inside in the previous seasons? What did the nametag say? Wasnt it LeFleur?





PS: Kate needs to stop working out. When they showed her at the end, she has man shoulders.

The hydrogen bomb, once again, was brought to the island by DI. At some point, it became unstable. Daniel told members of the DI that it needed to be encased in concrete and buried...which they did. That's why the bomb is now buried.

I don't think the nametag was LeFleur.

The explanation for going back to 74 by visiting the island is simple....the island did it. The island seems to have a sort of mind of its own.

THEORY: NONE of the other people who crashed on the flight are in 74, because the island only wanted them. Locke remained in 2007 (I think that's chronologically accurate) because the island needs him there.

I don't remember the name tag, but I thought it was Ben's father that guy ended up being, but I could be confusing things again. Also, didn't the others "wipe out" the dharma people? Oh god, this is so damn confusing. I can't stand Kate...don't know why, but I can guarantee if I was on that island with her, I'd beat her ass...lol. She is too cocky. But yeah, she is looking a tad more buff than what she needs too. I have no clue how they are able to go back in time, I would have assumed that they would stay in 2000 (whatever year it is) but who knows

View first post for relativity of DI wipeout...



I also think I have determined the meaning of "The Numbers".

They were coodinates that, when being entered, electomagnetically kept the island at that location in that period of time. When not entered, the island finds itself in a budle of EM instability. When the emergency key is switched, that flash...seem familiar? like the time shift flashes? the flash resets the island to do its own thing as if the station was never there. Theory, though.


For those that are skeptical about the upcoming "answers" to lost:

WHAT'S TO COME
Lost is moving again—going back even further into the past to explore a terrible incident that changed the course of the Island (and its people) forever.
When Lost returns in two weeks, the charming and talented young actor Sterling Beaumon (the kid's 14 and he's recording an album) reprises his role as "young Ben" for what will be a four-episode character arc [[eek]] .

Sterling tells us exclusively that the story is "very major, and it's going to change Ben forever."
Sterling, as per usual for Lost castmembers, is sworn to secrecy about exactly what happens but he says this very major thing "involves himself and yes, it is a trauma…
Before the change Ben's a nice, good kid…and then one second will change his life forever."

According to Sterling, over the course of this arc, "Ben will [come to] know everything about every little bit about the Island.
We're not going to learn more about the past with Dharma, we're going to learn more about the past of the Island." Say it with me people: Holler!

[Alex]

Im pretty sure the bomb was brought by the US military, before dharma iniative.


Fucking lost. shit is so confusing im not gona bother with theories

[Reaper]

Awwww...I'm so confused by last nights ending its not even funny...anyone care to explain? (the only thing I can think of is that he doesn't die, but that was a damn good shot)

[travis]

Awwww...I'm so confused by last nights ending its not even funny...anyone care to explain? (the only thing I can think of is that he doesn't die, but that was a damn good shot)

It's the Locke/Chrstian concept. They're important to the island - so the island won't let them die.