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#1 jcrboy

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 04:34 AM

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Disclaimer:

I know that posting outside linksand speaking about non-Neocodex programs has been frowned upon in the past, so I'll go ahead and link to the topic where I inferred the go-ahead to write this Guide

http://www.neocodex....-outside-progs/

Edit History
6/10/09 - Initial writing for Version 3.9, minor tweaks
6/15/09 - Guide updated for Version 4.1.2, sLAUGHTER's bio updated, screenshots added, minor tweaks
6/16/09 - Showed new feature - Statistics, Updated for 4.1.3, grammatical fixes
7/10/09 - New Version(4.4), changed download link

Table of Contents


  • Introduction to Sending Scores
  • Who is mOBSCENE / sLAUGHTER?
  • What Are the Risks of Score Sending?
  • Where Can I Obtain mOBSCENE's Score Sender?
  • How Do I Use the Score Sender?
  • Where Can I Obtain Score Sending Lists?
  • What Should I Do if I Want to Use This Program and not Get Frozen?
  • Closing Statements

Introduction to Sending Scores


I'm sure that most people that have ever considered cheating on Neopets have heard of the fabled Score Senders. I'll begin with a basic description of whata score sender is.

A score sender is a program that is designed to go to the Neopets website and pretend to play a game. It takes a game ID, navigates to the game, waits apredetermined amount of time, then sends the data to the Neopets site, countingas a "play" of the game. At this point, the appropriate amount of Neopoints would be awarded, avatar, if appropriate, etc.

The level of complication in a score sender can vary, including such options as:

Single Score Sending
A score sender that sends exactly one score; good for obtaining avatars, or for novice senders looking to see if score sending is appropriate for them

List Based Score Sending
A score sender that sends scores from a loaded list of GameIDs, Scores, and Times; Good for players who want to invest time once then forget about it.After the initial list is made, the list can be executed with little time investment from the player

Proxy Support
An option to use a proxy to make it appear that your account is being played from another location; Some players have been IP banned from Neopets and need away around the system, others want to enure that their personal IP does not get banned, and others do not want to misbehave on the IP address their main account resides on, to prevent chain icing.

More information on potential hazards later.

3 Game Limit Bypass
An option that allows a user to continue sending scores after the game has reached the max number of plays for the day; Useful for people who are participating in World Challenges


Whatever your reason for wanting to use a score sender, I'm assuming you're coming to this guide because you want to know where you can get one and how it is used, so I'll get down to the nitty-gritty in a moment.

Who is mOBCENE / sLAUGHTER?

sLAUGHTER is a programmer that I do not know personally, but have had discussions with in the past on a message board that no longer exists, and have spoken with via instant messaging. He, too had gone through the struggle of joining a new site, developing post count, collecting reputation, and then finally gotten access to programs that he thought were subpar (no offense to Neocodex... he made an account, but never hunghis hat here). As a well-versed programmer that had developed friendships with some of the people who were responsible for score senders in the first place, he decided to create his own. He has gone through manyversions, improving them each time, and even started his own site (which is down because he was too lazy to maintain it). There have been an update recently, and that’s why I’m editing this guide.

What Are the Risks of Score Sending?

Risk #1 is always getting an account frozen. All it takes is a little mistake. The same mistakes you capitalize on in other locations (e.g. User Shop with item set to 1NP) can happen here. If you make a mistake and a bad score is sent, the likelihood of getting your account frozen is very high.

Stupid mistakes that can and will get you frozen:

  • Setting your time too low (No one beats a game in 10 seconds... you'll be frozen)
  • Setting your score too high (Your average score is 300, suddenly you post a score of 3000, putting you in first place, getting your score reviewed, and getting you frozen)
  • Playing too long (I know you want to make some NP, but nobody is playing for 22 hours, taking a 2 hour break, then playing another 22 hours... takes a little longer, but you'll be frozen)
If you get frozen, there are other side effects that can and may take place.

  • Accounts from same email address get frozen
  • Accounts that have traded large sums of money with frozen account get frozen
  • Accounts that operate from same IP address frozen (rarer)
  • IP gets banned (rarest... more likely with autobuyers)
If you comprehend the risks involved and believe you are ready to get down to business with a score sender, then we can get the main part of the guide underway.

Where Can I Obtain sLAUGHTER's Score Sender?

You can get it directly from his site (all updates available as they're released)

BEFORE YOU DOWNLOAD, see my closing comments about liability and trust.I'm encouraging you to use the program, but I don't want you blaming me ifsomething goes wrong.

http://steve.happeningz.net/ss.php

How Do I Use the Score Sender?

First off, you're going to need the VB6runtime files and a standard assortment of .ocx files and the like, so Isuggest sticking the Score Sender program in the same folder as the rest of your NeoCodex programs. I can't remember the odd files that were needed to runthis program specifically, but you should be able to find them and slap them into the folder, right?

VB6 runtime files can be downloaded from here:

http://www.microsoft...17-f673077ffb3c

Second, if the program won't start at all, you'll need to adjust the compatibility. Right click the program, go to properties, switch to thecompatibility tab, then change it to Windows 95.

Assuming those two step went well, you should be looking at the main GUI for sLAUGHTER's Score Sender.

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Step one whenever you boot up sLAUGHTER's score sender should be to press the"Update Encryption" button and wait for a success message. Neopets updates their encryption every few days, and it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to making mistakes.

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When you open the Account List, you can either add accounts through the provided interface, or you can load a list that is in the following format:

Username1 Password1
Username2 Password2 Proxy: #.#.#.#
Username3 Password3



Adding an account manually:



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Loading from list:



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I would suggest starting with one account and working your way up, but ultimately, it's up to you.

Now when you open the Score List, you can, again, add scores manually, or load a list that's in the following format:

GameID: # Score: # Time: #
GameID: # Score: #-# Time: #-#

I included both formats for a reason. If you want to send a specific score after a specific time, then you can do so, but if you want tosend a score that falls in a certain range in an amount of time that falls in acertain range, you have the option to do that as well.

For example, if you wanted to play Game #1, and end a score of somewhere between 100 and 250 and it should take between 90 and 120 seconds to get that score, and you wanted to play the game 3 times in a row, you could use the text

GameID: 1 Score: 100-250 Time:90-120
GameID: 1 Score: 100-250 Time: 90-120
GameID: 1 Score: 100-250 Time: 90-120



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In this example, I played Game 1 as listed above, then played Game 2, which has a set payout. Last was game 3 which introduced the modulo function.



The modulo function allows you to send a valid score on a game in which the score increases by set intervals. In Game 3, you gain 50, 100, or 150 points each time you score, so all sent scores should be divisible by 50. This is where the modulo function comes into play.Simply add it as you saw listed (or through the Add Score interface)

NEW FEATURE

sLAUGHTER specifically asked I point this one out. There is now a statistics screen, accessible as shown below:

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My stats are a little weird because I've been using the SS for the Altador Cup today, but you can see how this might be awesome for number crunchers like myself.


This information should be enough to get you started using the Score Sender,but it will ultimately be up to you to create a valid list that won't get you frozen.

Where Can I Obtain Score Sending Lists?

There are plenty of places to get lists (Google), but I advise against using any of them. If TNT discovers someone cheating using a profitable list, they'll try to find the other people using that list. The best and safest list is one you make yourself.

If you're interested, you can pick up my own personal list here

What Should I Do if I Want to Use This Program and not Get Frozen?

That is an oxymoronic statement. If you use this program, there is always a chance of getting frozen, but if I had to give a rundown of what a "normal person" would do, here's how it would go:

  • On a new account, begin playing a few games a day
  • Raise the scores a little each day, and try adding a few new games a day
  • Continue this until you reach the 1000 NP limit on games (except in games where 1000 NP will get your score reviewed)
  • Take into consideration heavy days, light days, and rest days. Almost no one will sit and play 8 hours straight 7 days a week. Try to mix it up
  • Change the order of the games you play every few days. You don't want your playing to get too monotonous.
And that about covers it. If you do those things, your account should last long enough for some tidy profit.

Closing Statements

The only thing that I take credit for in this guide is the text. The program was done by sLAUGHTER, and he credits Raui, Josh, Jackie and Adam.

If you get frozen using this program, learn your lesson and try again, or stop using it.

If your password gets stolen, that's not my fault either. I've used this program and have had no problems, but that is no guarantee either. If you don't trust the source, don't use the program. There are tutorials available on how to detect a password stealer out there. In the end, again, it's your call.

If you have any questions or problems, post them below, and I'll try my best to answer them. I may add screenshots into this Guide if I end up feeling like there's a need to. Other than that, though, this Guide is done.

Edited by Waser Lave, 08 March 2011 - 09:13 AM.


#2 Bryan

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:32 PM

You're not staff anymore Ange.

He explicitly states that he wants to post where to get the program and there is no dissent in the topic.

Besides, the guide is really well written and it's not like it's a hard program to find. mOBSCENE doesn't have his ScoreSender hosted at just one site. In my opinion, this is just like posting a guide on how to use AdBlock for Firefox.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 04:33 PM

No shit, I still post the same way, staff or not.

He says "If I wanted to make a post teaching people where to find it (a general hosting site) and instruct on its usage, where should I do this?"
To which Hydro replies "You're welcome to make a topic discussing it."

That's not explicit.

He explicitly states that he wants to post where to find (a general hosting site, such as MegaUpload or Rapidshare) a program not on the website.

That's like me asking "Hey, if I wanted to make a post teaching people where to find free porn (a general hosting site) and instruct on it's usage, where should I do this?"
and Hydro saying "You're welcome to make a topic discussing it"
and then me getting a shit for posting a link where to find free porn.

Goddamn we don't have any fucking programs anyways. I can type in 'Mobscene's Score Sender' in Google and Codex is the second fucking listing. Where's the bad in that? Plus it's not affiliated with any websites, nor is it exclusive to one, nor is it a hacked version. I don't see the problem? Again, that's like me making a topic about using a Firefox Add-On that sums up stocks and linking to it and you giving me shit for it. It's a program made by a user not affiliated with any existing sites. It's not exclusive nor is it illegally obtained. Where is the harm in linking to it when there is no argument in the topic where he said he was going to do it!

You don't post the same, I used to think you used your brain when you were staff.

Show me one place where it says you can't post a link to a program?

http://www.neocodex....s-long-version/

Also, don't say you can't advertise another site because again he links to a general hosting site and mOBSCENE is not affiliated with any existing sites.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 07:37 PM

Why have you copied my format in the title from other topics? Clearly you don't know why [done] was put in the title so why have you put it in there?


I apologize. I did not know why done was placed. I used it as a placeholder when I posted a partial FAQ, then marked it as done. I assumed that the [Done] was an indication of when an FAQ moved from Beta state to complete state. I'll change the Topic Title to prevent any firther confuion among mods.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 09:19 PM

No need to apologise, I didn't mean to come off so bitchy about it, but I did wonder why you'd copied it :p


It seemed the standard for valid Guides... that's why I copied it, to try to look like the other Guides. I wanted everything to be perfect in my guide.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 12:36 AM

Sure, whatever. I don't care this much. Links to programs have always been removed, general hosting or not. That's because they're potentially malicious.
My understanding was that offsite programs could be discussed only as it was explicitly stated discussion was allowed, and the part about teaching people where to go was not properly addressed. Saying "Go google mOBSCENE and you will find the score sender." would be teaching someone how to find it, but making them assume the risks involved in downloading it.
If a program is linked to on a hosting site, it could be a mimic program, named the same but steals accounts. Could have viruses. The reason to not allow people to direct link was always to protect users from scams and other malicious behaviour.

But if I have misunderstood, then I'm sorry.

Sorry for the crabbiness, I've had some medication that's been screwing with my emotions.

I just didn't like the attitude with which you posted, which (as I took it) made it so your view was absolute. It should be the sole responsibility of the user on the internet to scan anything they download from a website. What makes Codex only host legitimate programs? For all anyone knows Administration could code something into a program that is malicious.

I think that this safeguard approach is kind of stupid. You want to know how I learned to avoid viruses? By contracting them in the first place. Being babied is only going to have longterm negative results.

I'm sorry for the attitude, it wasn't needed. Hopefully we can just brush this off as a slight altercation and be done with it.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 03:46 AM

Crabbiness all round then. I didn't come off well and I realise that in hindsight.

The unfortunate thing is that young members come here, and are often not as familiar with the internet and the risks that come with using it. Reputation means a lot to a site like this, and becoming known as being riddled with malicious programs would be debilitating considering the main resource is still technically programs.

I'm glad you guys are communicating about your feelings :p.

You bring up a good point but I think it should be okay as long as everyone knows that Neocodex did not produce this program and so therefore cannot vouch for its validity. People should be able to post links to outside tools as we are about help each other out. I see where you are concerned though Kitsune and your concerns are valid but I don't think that a few bad apples who post viruses should prevent all the other good people who want to help out from posting links.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 12:11 PM

All right! So even if no one ever uses mOBSCENE's score sender, I've helped bring together the senior members

*hugs all around*

...And really... that wasn't meant as sarcasm, I promise... I am glad that things were ironed out and that the team has come to an understanding

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 12:31 PM

All right! So even if no one ever uses mOBSCENE's score sender, I've helped bring together the senior members

*hugs all around*

...And really... that wasn't meant as sarcasm, I promise... I am glad that things were ironed out and that the team has come to an understanding

And I hope it doesn't deter you from posting more tutorials :).

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 12:35 PM

And I hope it doesn't deter you from posting more tutorials :) .


It shouldn't. This google result is the added incentive I needed:

http://www.google.co...&fp=2Inaafc1UxE

That's just awesome that it was result #2 within 24 hours o.0

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 12:52 PM


It shouldn't. This google result is the added incentive I needed:

http://www.google.co...&fp=2Inaafc1UxE

That's just awesome that it was result #2 within 24 hours o.0

Nice! We are going to be creating a proper guides section on the front page soon and I would like you to add it there once we are done :).

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 04:33 PM

Nicely done jcr. :D

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:32 PM

Nicely done jcr. :D


Thanks. Do you think that screenshots would help or harm the overall layout of this guide?

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:03 PM

Hello jcrboy, I'm mOBSCENE (apparently), but I changed my name recently to sLAUGHTER. (please don't ask why.)

The most recent version out right at this moment is 4.1.2, which has various changes, such as the account and score lists being revamped, major code differences, and overall performance.

If you ask me over MSN, I will give you it so you can update it here, If you want...(but the link to the online download is in my personal message). You can also get it from me on AIM.

Also, the Modulo was fixed, I'm not sure on an exact date, but i know it is perfected in the most recent version.

"but you also need to take into consideration that this program checks for updates"...This was removed after my site shut down, quite a while ago, They're all manually distributed now, I give to some people, put on some sites, and word spreads.

If I am needed, my MSN and AIM messenger names are on my profile, and I usually leave them on throughout the day, but I have been much less active on AIM... <_<

So yeah, besides all that, good guide. ;D

Oh yeah, extra note:

My site was shut down because I was just too lazy to keep it going, I had the money, though lmao.

Another note!: In 4.1, I added a statistics viewer, which, when opened, through the Extras button, will show you a semi-detailed list of all the score sending on a specified account. It seems rather useful, as it shows all np ever made *from a certain starting point*...how many avatars made, scores sent overall, scores reviewed, errors, etc...

...It works on 3D life games, and altador cup games (BUT NOT YOOYUBALL.)

List of Altador Cup Games:
Make Some Noise: Game ID - 862
Shootout Showdown: Game ID - 1106
Slushie Slinger: Game ID - 863

Edited by mOBSCENE, 14 June 2009 - 11:15 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:37 PM

Haha, it is mOBSCENE himself. :p Glad to hear that you're ok with the guide being here.

Since you don't have a site at the moment, maybe we can facilitate the downloading process a bit by hosting your program on our downloads system. :p We have a bug tracker system and stuff now so maybe the development of your program could be improved by exposing it to our member base in this fashion? (btw, don't worry about the CodexChex in this case, because it's a program being distributed everywhere -- don't need to worry about leaking, rofl)

If its on our downloads system, we would also, obviously, claim no ownership or rights over it whatsoever and simply act as a mirror. You could take it off whenever you please. :p

The only thing is, we would really like for the authors to be around enough to address the bug reports so it doesn't get too excessive. We could also just disable bug reports or something and just strictly host it and offer no support. It's your choice, haha.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:43 PM

Haha, it is mOBSCENE himself. :p Glad to hear that you're ok with the guide being here.

Since you don't have a site at the moment, maybe we can facilitate the downloading process a bit by hosting your program on our downloads system. :p We have a bug tracker system and stuff now so maybe the development of your program could be improved by exposing it to our member base in this fashion? (btw, don't worry about the CodexChex in this case, because it's a program being distributed everywhere -- don't need to worry about leaking, rofl)

If its on our downloads system, we would also, obviously, claim no ownership or rights over it whatsoever and simply act as a mirror. You could take it off whenever you please. :p

The only thing is, we would really like for the authors to be around enough to address the bug reports so it doesn't get too excessive. We could also just disable bug reports or something and just strictly host it and offer no support. It's your choice, haha.


hmm, i have no permanent home, so i guess i'll hang here for a bit. ;D

sounds peachy to me. :)

I'm gonna change my name n stuffs, though, so be sure to make it clear that mOBSCENE is now sLAUGHTER

...erm, the name change...its taken <_<

hey shadow, wanna do me a favor?

http://www.neocodex....3737-slaughter/

hasnt been on in 3 years -.-

Edited by mOBSCENE, 14 June 2009 - 11:47 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:52 PM

hmm, i have no permanent home, so i guess i'll hang here for a bit. ;D

sounds peachy to me. :)


Cool. :p If you want, I believe you can add it to the "Public Neopets Programs" area. I'll just have to go in and approve it after.

You'll have to apologize for our lack of preparation on the programming front right now -- we've revamped a ton of things as far as the programming area goes. We've switched to mostly Java and Python development, and we have our programmers using SVN now to keep track of their projects. This hasn't been published in a guideline yet, but it will soon:

In case you are interested (not trying to lure you in or anything :whistling: ): The criteria for getting Junior Programmer is mostly just going to be "showing aptitude" (ie. super easy to get if you want to program). With Jr. Programmer, they get access to a "dev" repository and they can start projects on there. Achieving the programmer rank would be based on getting x amount of SVN projects "promoted" from "dev" to "core" (core being the really good SVN repository :p ) once it become awesome enough. I think we're also still considering still accepting independant submissions (ones not tracked by SVN) just so long as the submissions are really good. :p

The SVN thing was mostly brought in to promote more of a cooperative effort on our programs, and to have the source available in case the programmer decides to disappear and there are tons of bugs. We will still honor people's intellectual property in all cases. :p

hey shadow, wanna do me a favor?

http://www.neocodex....3737-slaughter/

hasnt been on in 3 years -.-


Yup, I'll take care of it. I've had to do that for someone else recently also. :p

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:56 PM

Sure enough, the program is updated and looks amazing. I'll be updating the guide in the next few days, with a new download link.

All credit goes to mOBSCENE / sLAUGHTER

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:00 AM

Cool. :p If you want, I believe you can add it to the "Public Neopets Programs" area. I'll just have to go in and approve it after.

You'll have to apologize for our lack of preparation on the programming front right now -- we've revamped a ton of things as far as the programming area goes. We've switched to mostly Java and Python development, and we have our programmers using SVN now to keep track of their projects. This hasn't been published in a guideline yet, but it will soon:

In case you are interested (not trying to lure you in or anything :whistling: ): The criteria for getting Junior Programmer is mostly just going to be "showing aptitude" (ie. super easy to get if you want to program). With Jr. Programmer, they get access to a "dev" repository and they can start projects on there. Achieving the programmer rank would be based on getting x amount of SVN projects "promoted" from "dev" to "core" (core being the really good SVN repository :p ) once it become awesome enough. I think we're also still considering still accepting independant submissions (ones not tracked by SVN) just so long as the submissions are really good. :p

The SVN thing was mostly brought in to promote more of a cooperative effort on our programs, and to have the source available in case the programmer decides to disappear and there are tons of bugs. We will still honor people's intellectual property in all cases. :p



Yup, I'll take care of it. I've had to do that for someone else recently also. :p


I shall see, ask me again when I am more conscious of what's going on. I haven't slept much.

And thanks for the name change! *changes av*

Sure enough, the program is updated and looks amazing. I'll be updating the guide in the next few days, with a new download link.

All credit goes to mOBSCENE / sLAUGHTER


Hmm...I fixed the saving issue, it seems i forgot a period next to "filename" <_< ...total bullshlaka.

So it is now up to 4.1.3 :D

Edited by sLAUGHTER, 15 June 2009 - 12:01 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:01 AM

I shall see, ask me again when I am more conscious of what's going on. I haven't slept much.

:lol: , sounds good.

Also, hmm, what dependencies are required for this program? It needed prjChameleon.ocx or something, so I'm wondering if I (or you, but I have Inno Setup installed and so it can take me a few mins) can throw up an installer for this or something just to make it easier for our members, if there are lots of dependancies.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:04 AM

:lol: , sounds good.

Also, hmm, what dependencies are required for this program? It needed prjChameleon.ocx or something, so I'm wondering if I (or you, but I have Inno Setup installed and so it can take me a few mins) can throw up an installer for this or something just to make it easier for our members, if there are lots of dependancies.


Mmm...It won't be needing prjChameleon for much longer, but other than that, all it needs are the vb6 runtime files, and Ascentive library files.

I do not have Inno, I did at some point, but didn't ever use it...

There are also rare cases of people needing msinet.ocx.

People used to need comdlg32.ocx BUT I have removed the need for that using a method that pseudo-creates one itself. :)

Edited by sLAUGHTER, 15 June 2009 - 12:07 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:06 AM

Mmm...It won't be needing prjChameleon for much longer, but other than that, all it needs are the vb6 runtime files, and Ascentive library files.

I do not have Inno, I did at some point, but didn't ever use it...


Ok, that's cool, we can just put big bold letters telling people to download the VB runtime files and the ascentive lib files and link them to it. :p

It's just awesome to have good dependency handling because the way we have things set up, our python applications only require the user to run this super-installer that checks all the dependencies for them. So far, we've received no reports of people missing dependencies. :p

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:08 AM

Ok, that's cool, we can just put big bold letters telling people to download the VB runtime files and the ascentive lib files and link them to it. :p

It's just awesome to have good dependency handling because the way we have things set up, our python applications only require the user to run this super-installer that checks all the dependencies for them. So far, we've received no reports of people missing dependencies. :p


Yes, the apps here are well made. ;)

Although I wish the dice-a-roo player would have the log resizable... <_<

Other than that, it's awesome. :|

I really gotta get going, its 4:08 am, got exams in the morning, oh boy.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:10 AM

Yes, the apps here are well made. ;)

Although I wish the dice-a-roo player would have the log resizable... <_<

Other than that, it's awesome. :|


Hmm.. resizeable log.... will note that. :p Is it because the text is wrapping around? Because I was afraid of that. :/

I really gotta get going, its 4:08 am, got exams in the morning, oh boy.

No worries, the site will still be around tomorrow, lol.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:12 AM

Hmm.. resizeable log.... will note that. :p Is it because the text is wrapping around? Because I was afraid of that. :/


No worries, the site will still be around tomorrow, lol.


lmao, noo, I just like condensing the external logs of things to fit nicely underneath the main form, or just put it in an area where I can look at it without resizing other windows.

Oh, and it better be. :D

Edited by sLAUGHTER, 15 June 2009 - 12:12 AM.



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