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[ericcc]

I'm 15, so this situation is bound the happen sooner or later. So I'm putting myself in this situation before it actually happens

My dad likes to take my phone and or computer away when I get in trouble
but


I bought my own phone
I pay my own bill
I'm on a different company then my parents

If I get in trouble for whatever reason, would it be considered fair for my dad to take my phone? -- even if i can just pop my SIM out and get another one?

and yes I know life isn't fair but I'm asking anyway

[Noitidart]

I say parents have full control over their children no matter how old they are. Parents like to give us indepenence but I think it's our duty to ensure we respect them and see that they are above us. They have done so much. Your mom carried you around for 9 months. Try tying something around your belly for more then a day.

[Bryan]

Depends on how you earn the money. If you don't have receipts from payments then on a legal standpoint they have every right to take it away from you.

Just live with it and try not to get on his bad side too much. You're gonna keep getting shit taken away til you move out.

[Kyle]

Like you said...be quick with the sim card and it wont be a problem in most cases.

Either that, or suck up a lot and don't get in trouble

[jcrdude]

I usually stayed out of trouble by keeping a low profile and deferring trouble to my brother. As long as he was "worse" than I was, I was in the clear. So yeah, if you don't have any siblings, you just need to mind your tongue and keep your grades up.

[Hydrogen]

I say parents have full control over their children no matter how old they are. Parents like to give us indepenence but I think it's our duty to ensure we respect them and see that they are above us. They have done so much. Your mom carried you around for 9 months. Try tying something around your belly for more then a day.

That was really well said .

[Drakonid]

That was really well said .

^What he said^

[Jake]

I can sort of relate to the things being taken away, but my solution to this was to just keep rebuying things. Until you pay rent, they can take almost anything from you (including pride and dignity.) I'm only working part time but plan on starting to pay $400 a month to shut this woman up. Lolz.

I say parents have full control over their children no matter how old they are. Parents like to give us indepenence but I think it's our duty to ensure we respect them and see that they are above us. They have done so much. Your mom carried you around for 9 months. Try tying something around your belly for more then a day.

Would just like to comment on the usual reply to these kind of things.

1) It was her choice
2) If it wasn't her choice, /baby kill.
3) Year+ off of work
4) ????
5) Profit!

[Frizzle]

Monogamous family itself is an oppressive relationship.

Or do what you guys do and slaughter a goat? Irrelavant.


Eric, just accept the fact at your age your parents have the majority of the control and eventually let you be more independent. By the time you're 17/18 and have your own job they wouldn't take it away due to it's necessary state. At the moment you're only using it to chat up white chicks and order fajitas.

[Ali]

Not much you can do really unless you try pointing out that you own the phone and pay the bill etc and they listen. *Shrugs* In which case, they'll probably just find something else to take away from you.

I say parents have full control over their children no matter how old they are. Parents like to give us indepenence but I think it's our duty to ensure we respect them and see that they are above us. They have done so much. Your mom carried you around for 9 months. Try tying something around your belly for more then a day.

I'm not even going to start on how much is wrong with this. Parents don't deserve automatic respect just for having you.

[Grizzly]

Not much you can do really unless you try pointing out that you own the phone and pay the bill etc and they listen. *Shrugs* In which case, they'll probably just find something else to take away from you.


I'm not even going to start on how much is wrong with this. Parents don't deserve automatic respect just for having you.

Do they deserve respect for changing your diaper and feeding you and housing you and taking care of you and driving you everywhere and raising you though?

If they can't take your phone away, I'm sure they'll find another creative way to punish you. See my dad would probably just beat the daylights out of me, but I guess your hwhite parents would just ground you or something silly of that sort.

[ericcc]

I'm not even going to start on how much is wrong with this. Parents don't deserve automatic respect just for having you.

that's why i ignored it

Do they deserve respect for changing your diaper and feeding you and housing you and taking care of you and driving you everywhere and raising you though?

If they can't take your phone away, I'm sure they'll find another creative way to punish you. See my dad would probably just beat the daylights out of me, but I guess your hwhite parents would just ground you or something silly of that sort.

yes, but the way noit phrased it (for your entire life)

and lol @ white parents

[Fatal]

Do they deserve respect for changing your diaper and feeding you and housing you and taking care of you and driving you everywhere and raising you though?

Possibly.

They would deserve that respect up to the point they lost the respect.

Depends on their actions over your whole life. If you think there was more negative/wrong than good, then they probably DON'T deserve that respect.

Edited by Fatal, 17 June 2009 - 11:09 AM.

[Ali]

Do they deserve respect for changing your diaper and feeding you and housing you and taking care of you and driving you everywhere and raising you though?

Yes. If they do that without doing anything else to jeopardise that respect. Not everyone's parents do.

Edited by Ali, 17 June 2009 - 11:27 AM.

[ShadowLink64]

I'd probably think: so long as you're living at home, you're under your parent's control. When you are no longer living at home, then you are only under your parent's control to a certain extent.

[Ali]

I'd probably think: so long as you're living at home, you're under your parent's control. When you are no longer living at home, then you are only under your parent's control to a certain extent.

How are you under your parent's control at all after you've moved out?

[Frizzle]

How are you under your parent's control at all after you've moved out?

Be real Ali, not everyone's situation is the same as yours (I remember you moved out at 15?), and still in deep contact with parents until their mid/late 20's. Hell, my sister's 27 and still lives at home.

I think it's no official control or power, but the want/need not to disrespect or upset your parents, knowing they know best (not always) and so you can change your mind or do things differently.

[Ali]

Be real Ali, not everyone's situation is the same as yours (I remember you moved out at 15?), and still in deep contact with parents until their mid/late 20's. Hell, my sister's 27 and still lives at home.

I think it's no official control or power, but the want/need not to disrespect or upset your parents, knowing they know best (not always) and so you can change your mind or do things differently.

But she's still living at home, that's fair enough. After you've moved out, all decisions are yours, and yours alone. Taking your parents into account is different from them having any control. Maybe it is just the wording but I just don't understand SL's statement.

[pyke]

If you're a minor, it's probably better off to do as your parents ask of you, so long as it's not entirely unreasonable.

Same if you're living at home.

[jcrdude]

I get super cheap rent ($200 a month) as long as I follow the main rule: No porking in the house

[Jakerz]

I'd say if your paying the bill and bought the phone, they shouldn't be allowed to take it.. Though I'm a 17 yr old male so my opinion is probably biased

[Bryan]

But she's still living at home, that's fair enough. After you've moved out, all decisions are yours, and yours alone. Taking your parents into account is different from them having any control. Maybe it is just the wording but I just don't understand SL's statement.

I think he meant taking them into account, not them having any formal control. However, since parents do tend to instill values in you as a child, they have some form of control. In a sense that strippers and the like are always asked 'what would your parents think'? Meaning that certain choices that you know your parents would disagree with are often thought about a little harder. For instance I knew that my parents wouldn't want me slinging weed, and I always felt guilty every time I reflected on it. I suppose maybe that's what Cam meant?

[ShadowLink64]

I think he meant taking them into account, not them having any formal control. However, since parents do tend to instill values in you as a child, they have some form of control. In a sense that strippers and the like are always asked 'what would your parents think'? Meaning that certain choices that you know your parents would disagree with are often thought about a little harder. For instance I knew that my parents wouldn't want me slinging weed, and I always felt guilty every time I reflected on it. I suppose maybe that's what Cam meant?

Yes, that's what I meant.

[Frank274]

I'd say if your paying the bill and bought the phone, they shouldn't be allowed to take it.. Though I'm a 17 yr old male so my opinion is probably biased

That's what I was thinking...

But it's always best to listen to your parents (for the most part). It all depends on WHY he takes it away. If he tries to take it just for the hell of it, no, don't give it to him.

As my parents always used to say... "my roof, my rules."

[jcrdude]

That's what I was thinking...

But it's always best to listen to your parents (for the most part). It all depends on WHY he takes it away. If he tries to take it just for the hell of it, no, don't give it to him.

As my parents always used to say... "my roof, my rules."

And if you don't listen to the "my roof, my rules" part, it quickly becomes "no rent, no bed"... and that's not a fun argument, I tell you one thing