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#1 turdo

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:09 AM

In commemoration of having 420 Topics in here I want to ask you all what your opinion is of the drug war and especially the illegality of Cannabis/Marijuana/Weed?

I say legalize that shit and obviously tax it. Why can't stoners like me take a break and smoke some weed?

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:12 AM

Because pharmaceutical companies would make less money.

#3 outsidedream86

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:44 AM

Any argument against legalizing marijuana can also be used against alcohol. Either legalize them both or make them both illegal. Of course, we all know how Prohibition worked out....

#4 turdo

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 08:39 AM

Because pharmaceutical companies would make less money.


So would a fuckload of other greedy assfucks i bet. Cops. Drug testing companies. Etc etc.

Any argument against legalizing marijuana can also be used against alcohol. Either legalize them both or make them both illegal. Of course, we all know how Prohibition worked out....


Exactly, but politicians are being paid to keep it illegal.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 10:49 AM

Here, in Argentina, Marijuana was legalized recently(only for personal use, of course).

#6 turdo

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:09 PM

Here, in Argentina, Marijuana was legalized recently(only for personal use, of course).


What do you mean "for personal use"? Does that mean you cant grow/sell it? Kinda defeats the purpose of legalizing something since it remains in the hands of a black market :rolleyes: But I guess it's better than it being completely illegal, right?

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:17 PM

You can grow it, but only for yourself.

#8 phalkon

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:26 PM

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#9 Sweeney

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:38 PM

All drugs should be legalised, and controlled.

#10 turdo

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:47 PM

All drugs should be legalised, and controlled.


This.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 01:06 PM

I just thought I would add that an advertisement for "Marijuana Rehab" appeared at the top of my screen when I loaded this topic.

Also, the war on drugs is a cover for turning American into a police state by funneling taxpayer dollars to equip lowly police forces with military-grade weapons to "combat drugs."

That is all.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 02:07 PM

I just thought I would add that an advertisement for "Marijuana Rehab" appeared at the top of my screen when I loaded this topic.

Also, the war on drugs is a cover for turning American into a police state by funneling taxpayer dollars to equip lowly police forces with military-grade weapons to "combat drugs."

That is all.


Well, I'm supposing NeoCodex uses Google Adds, which puts adds related to the page you are watching.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 06:59 PM

Because pharmaceutical companies would make less money.


Where the hell do you get that? If every Pharmacy is selling weed, they would make more money. Its the Drug dealers (Would would most likely be still Illegal since they cant tax it) who will be making a shitload less money, meaning they might switch to dealing even worse. Like child trafficking or something.

All drugs should be legalised, and controlled.


Legalizing it will make it even harder to control. At this point (Except in like California) anyone found with drugs we know its illegal and they get arrested. When you legalise them, there will still be a blackmarket considering your controlling its usage, and thus you will have to have a proper method of determining if they can legally have it. That's more even more overhead (For a system thats selling fucking Government builds, and letting prisoners free, just to cover its budget)

I just thought I would add that an advertisement for "Marijuana Rehab" appeared at the top of my screen when I loaded this topic.


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#14 turdo

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 07:00 PM

Where the hell do you get that? If every Pharmacy is selling weed, they would make more money. Its the Drug dealers (Would would most likely be still Illegal since they cant tax it) who will be making a shitload less money, meaning they might switch to dealing even worse. Like child trafficking or something.

You're retarded.

Legalizing it will make it even harder to control. At this point (Except in like California) anyone found with drugs we know its illegal and they get arrested. When you legalise them, there will still be a blackmarket considering your controlling its usage, and thus you will have to have a proper method of determining if they can legally have it. That's more even more overhead (For a system thats selling fucking Government builds, and letting prisoners free, just to cover its budget)


Wow. Please get educated on the subject before you open your dumb mouth. How in the world do you get that legalizing creates a black market? Do drug dealers sell alcohol? Didn't think so.<_<

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 07:05 PM

Legalizing it will make it even harder to control. At this point (Except in like California) anyone found with drugs we know its illegal and they get arrested. When you legalise them, there will still be a blackmarket considering your controlling its usage, and thus you will have to have a proper method of determining if they can legally have it. That's more even more overhead (For a system thats selling fucking Government builds, and letting prisoners free, just to cover its budget)


What about Portugal?

http://www.scientifi...criminalization

Wow. Please get educated on the subject before you open your dumb mouth. How in the world do you get that legalizing creates a black market? Do drug dealers sell alcohol? Didn't think so.<_<


While he stated it crudely, turdo's right. Prohibition ring any bells? The point is you cannot completely control substance (ab)use in any fashion. People are always going to find away to evade the law, so the best way is to legalize it, tax it, and watch the blackmarket fade.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 08:20 PM

Wow. Please get educated on the subject before you open your dumb mouth. How in the world do you get that legalizing creates a black market? Do drug dealers sell alcohol? Didn't think so.<_<



Lol. Of course Drug dealers dont sell Alcohol. Thats because they traffic in Drug. Hence the name, Drug Dealers. (Who would have though thats why they have that name). While there isnt a full run black-market for alcohol (Due to the fact that you can get it free range upon turning 21). There are plenty of people that will get you alcohol while your under age, and then try to sell you drugs. because drugs they gain almost 100% profit. (Its happened to be twice)

With over an estimated billion dollars of drugs being sold in our country a year, I'm positive every drug dealer (Especially the ones makeing hundreds of million on drugs) will be oh so happy to just stop selling the drugs, and go about their normal life's.

What about Portugal?

http://www.scientifi...criminalization


Ah. That great. "It worked somewhere else, it will work here" ideal. Because Canada and Britan have public health it, it means a country with negative budget can. (Despite that fact that our own budgeting committee has determined it will raise the nation debt by a Trillion dollars in one year)

Anyways. Perhaps you should have tried to read that article before you posted it (because I read it). Drugs where never LEGALIZED. Instead, they changed the laws so that way people caught in possession are not throw in jail (Which in the US, they are not either, only drug dealers. Just like they still throw them in jail over there). And it only covers small amounts (Enough for 10 days usage).

So, they changed it so that way people who where caught using it, where sent to rehab or fined, and more people went to rehab, Thats good, because in America we also sentence people to rehab.

Now, I am missing the point here, according to that article, our problems shouldnt exist.

P.S. I love being called a retard by someone who cant even properly Unquote :), or in any way deem his post separate then mine.

Edited by iargue, 30 August 2009 - 08:22 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2009 - 08:27 PM

Lol. Of course Drug dealers dont sell Alcohol. Thats because they traffic in Drug. Hence the name, Drug Dealers. (Who would have though thats why they have that name). While there isnt a full run black-market for alcohol (Due to the fact that you can get it free range upon turning 21). There are plenty of people that will get you alcohol while your under age, and then try to sell you drugs. because drugs they gain almost 100% profit. (Its happened to be twice)

>thinks alchohol isn't a drug
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#18 iargue

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 08:35 PM

>thinks alchohol isn't a drug
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According to the government (All that matters). Office of Drug & Alcohol Policy & Compliance

Since, Drug dealers is a specifically targeted word designed to specify only people who illegally sell drugs. Otherwise we would be talking about anyone who sells medicine, some kinds of food, or alcohol. Therefor we cannot also consider Alcohol a drug. Its the only way to maintain politically correct.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 08:40 PM

But if they are selling alcohol to minors (like you said) isn't it illegal and then therefore a drug?

Anywho this isn't worth the effort, you're wrong I'm right you don't make sense

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 08:47 PM

This is stupid. Joe's opinion is the only one that matters here.

#21 Mr. Hobo

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 09:25 PM

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#22 iargue

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 09:43 PM

This is stupid. Joe's opinion is the only one that matters here.


I wonder if it was you, or me, who angered him?

I'm thinking you.

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 11:44 PM

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You haven't expressed an opinion. So you still matter. Sort of.

#24 Cyo

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:16 AM

Wow. Please get educated on the subject before you open your dumb mouth. How in the world do you get that legalizing creates a black market? Do drug dealers sell alcohol? Didn't think so.<_<


Grow the fuck up nigger.

When you legalize and TAX (get it?) drugs there will be a black market to sell that shit for less than the original price+tax to make a bigger profit and not send shit to the government. Just look at tobacco. I've been importing cheap 'illegal' cigarettes and tobacco from Russia for years because our government has such a high taxation on tobacco-products. Other people do this with alcohol as well and sell it to their families/friends/other people for less than stores would charge because of the high ass taxation the government has put on these drugs so they can make more money (officially it's to curb people's usage of these products).

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 05:12 AM

Lol. Of course Drug dealers dont sell Alcohol. Thats because they traffic in Drug. Hence the name, Drug Dealers. (Who would have though thats why they have that name). While there isnt a full run black-market for alcohol (Due to the fact that you can get it free range upon turning 21). There are plenty of people that will get you alcohol while your under age, and then try to sell you drugs. because drugs they gain almost 100% profit. (Its happened to be twice)


His point was that you can't make a profit selling blackmarket alcohol because it's legal and available in liquor stores.


With over an estimated billion dollars of drugs being sold in our country a year, I'm positive every drug dealer (Especially the ones makeing hundreds of million on drugs) will be oh so happy to just stop selling the drugs, and go about their normal life's.


I don't think anyone in this thread is making the claim that drug dealers will be happy to stop their careers. The point is, once you legalize something and make it readily available the need for a black market shrinks quickly to a small group which eventually fizzles out after no profits are turned. I tried to show you that by bringing up prohibition.

Why do you think there are no drug dealers in Amsterdam who sell marijuana?

Ah. That great. "It worked somewhere else, it will work here" ideal. Because Canada and Britan have public health it, it means a country with negative budget can. (Despite that fact that our own budgeting committee has determined it will raise the nation debt by a Trillion dollars in one year)


This is not true, but I'm not even going to touch this right now. If you want to start an argument about national healthcare, make a thread.

Anyways. Perhaps you should have tried to read that article before you posted it (because I read it). Drugs where never LEGALIZED. Instead, they changed the laws so that way people caught in possession are not throw in jail (Which in the US, they are not either, only drug dealers. Just like they still throw them in jail over there). And it only covers small amounts (Enough for 10 days usage).


This is very wrong. People found guilty of possession in the United States do get jail time - where are you getting your facts? Are you even aware that there is a charge called, "possession"?

Anyway, I did read the article, and that "changing of laws" is actually called decriminalization, which means they no longer classify drug use or possession in small quantities as a crime punishable by jail time. The whole point is that they completely disproved the myth that jail time is a deterrent for drug users, because if that was the case decriminalization would have led to an increase in drug use.

Where are you getting your information because most of it seems either fabricated or literally pulled out your ass for the sake of a really bad point.


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