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[21:54] <Baenso> sad birthday
[21:54] <Adam> Creative
[21:54] <Metigue> I once visited a Clairvoyant
[21:54] <Baenso> inorite
[21:55] <Metigue> and they said "Happy death day -9 years"
[21:55] <Metigue> that was 8 years ago
[21:55] <Metigue>
[21:55] <Metigue> lol
[21:55] <Metigue> Dying at 19 would suck
[21:55] <Metigue> >.>
[21:56] <jzzzrboy> yes it would
[21:56] <jzzzrboy> I'd already be dead
[21:56] <Baenso> why would it suck?
[21:56] <Baenso> you'd be dead
[21:56] <Baenso> ...
[21:56] <Articpuss> nah, dying at 19 is fine
[21:56] <Baenso> dying at 19 is no different than dying at 99
[21:57] <Articpuss> exactly my thought
[21:57] <Articpuss> dead is dead
[21:57] <Baenso> good man
[21:57] <Baenso> i like your thinking
[21:57] <Baenso> i hate how death is treated so seriously
[21:57] <Metigue> Yes, but I hadn't got to experience life fully yet
[21:57] <Baenso> why does it matter?
[21:57] <Articpuss> what does it matyer
[21:57] <Articpuss> OI
[21:57] <Articpuss> matter*
[21:57] <Metigue> Because I want to experience life
[21:57] <Articpuss> why?
[21:58] <Metigue> before I experience the after life
[21:58] <Metigue> we live for a reason
[21:58] <Articpuss> ah, religious debate
[21:58] <Articpuss> I believe we live by some small coincedense
[21:58] <Metigue> Do you honestly believe that?
[21:58] <Baenso> yes
[21:58] <Baenso> i do
[21:58] <Metigue> Thats a sad existence you live in
[21:58] <Baenso> why is it sad?
[21:58] <Articpuss> do you honestly believe that we are so special?
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> Wow met
[21:59] <Metigue> Yes?
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> I believe that living via higher power
[21:59] <Articpuss> tell me, do shitflies experience a great existance?
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> is a sad existence
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> yes
[21:59] <Metigue> Oh god I am totally not religious
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> because they love shit
[21:59] <Metigue> but I do believe in a god
[21:59] <Baenso> sooo
[21:59] <Baenso> you are religious
[22:00] <Metigue> Not really
[22:00] <Metigue> Fuck christianity
[22:00] <Baenso> "having or showing belief in and reverence for a deity; "a religious man"; "religious attitude" "
[22:00] <Metigue> it's retarded and contradictary
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> Unless he falls into Theistic Agnostic
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> then technically
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> he'd be fine
[22:00] <Metigue> Well I'm not not sure
[22:00] <Metigue> I believe in a God
[22:00] <Metigue> thats all I know
[22:00] <Metigue> I don't know if I'm right or not
[22:00] <Metigue> lol
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> That's Theistic Agnostic
[22:00] <Metigue> But I'd like to think so
[22:00] <annabeth> Oi
[22:00] <annabeth> The internet is full of religious heated battlesz
[22:01] <Metigue> I know
[22:01] <Georgina> hey anna, i Rsd in maginc earlier
[22:01] <Metigue> lol
[22:01] <Articpuss> in the end we get squated and shit doesn't matter anymore, just like a shitfly
[22:01] <Baenso> because religion makes the world a shittier place
[22:01] <Georgina> magic*
[22:01] <Baenso> and thus it's a heated topic
[22:01] <annabeth> Bottom line is why is religion such a heated topic
[22:01] <annabeth> but that's your opinion
[22:01] <Metigue> I've reasoned with myself for about 18,000 hours of my life
[22:01] <Metigue> over the meaning of life
[22:01] <Metigue> and I had some pretty good arguments
[22:01] <Baenso> what a waste
[22:01] <Metigue> but I can't remember them atm
[22:01] <Baenso> there is no meaning
[22:01] <jzzzrboy> Time wasted
[22:01] <annabeth> are you saying you are superior than everyone else to convince people who are religious that they are
wasting their time? o-o and not entitled to their own beliefs and opinions?
[22:01] <Metigue> There is a meaning
[22:01] <Metigue> xD
[22:01] <Articpuss> but did you find a definate answer?
[22:02] <Metigue> Yes
[22:02] <jzzzrboy> You should have been living
[22:02] <Metigue> I did
[22:02] <Metigue> I did find a definite meaning
[22:02] <jzzzrboy> Enlighten us?
[22:02] <Metigue> But I can't remember it atm
[22:02] <annabeth> how was rsing in magic shop georgina?
[22:02] <Metigue> >.<
[22:02] <Baenso> ...
[22:02] <Metigue> I've been drinking coke
[22:02] <Articpuss> then why do you still bother living if you got all the answers?
[22:02] <Metigue> aspartame cuts my brain flow
[22:02] <Baenso> you don't just forget something like the meaning of life
[22:03] * jzzzrboy is now known as AgnisticFront
[22:03] <Metigue> I can believe that my life has meaning without being able to remember what that meaning is, can't I?
[22:03] <Articpuss> I forgot my bank pin once
[22:03] <Georgina> great anna, i got a green lenny and a red hissi
[22:03] <Baenso> me too
[22:03] * AgnisticFront is now known as AgnosticFront
[22:03] <Baenso> fucking embarassing
[22:03] <annabeth> nice grats!!!
[22:03] <Metigue> I would rs in magic
[22:03] <Metigue> if I had an account over 4 months
[22:03] <Georgina> ty
[22:03] <Metigue> My friend got some grapes of wrath >.<
[22:03] <annabeth> I rsed 8 items from the spooky shop in 2 1/2 hours and got some good catches
[22:03] <Georgina> omg
[22:03] <Georgina> wow
[22:04] <Articpuss> holy shit nice
[22:04] <annabeth> haha
[22:04] <Metigue> >.>
[22:04] <annabeth> lucky friend who got it
[22:04] <Metigue> Was that a question? lol
[22:04] <Metigue> they don't go on codex
[22:04] <Metigue> neofriend lol
[22:04] <Baenso> how much are those worth
[22:04] <Baenso> grapes of wrath that is
[22:04] <Metigue> 400m
[22:04] <Baenso> psh
[22:04] <Baenso> ain't shit
[22:05] <Metigue> lol
[22:05] <Articpuss> send a sumo wrestler to his house to rape him in exchange for his account info
[22:05] <Metigue> her house
[22:05] <Metigue> xD
[22:05] <Articpuss> its house
[22:05] <Metigue> lol
[22:05] <Articpuss> internets, females, etc
[22:05] <Baenso> send me with a bat!
[22:05] <Articpuss> why would you do that
[22:05] <Articpuss> what are you gonna do with the bat?
[22:05] <Articpuss> poor thing
[22:05] <Articpuss> animal abuser
[22:05] * AgnosticFront is now known as PantslessOaf
[22:06] <Articpuss> ^nude
[22:06] <Baenso> send me with a wooden baseball bat*
[22:06] <Metigue> Rawr this is annoying me now
[22:06] <Articpuss> lmao
[22:06] <Articpuss> @
[22:06] <Metigue> I'm trying to remember my well thought out meaning of life
[22:06] <Articpuss> rawr
[22:06] <Metigue> >.<
[22:06] <Metigue> Give me an hour
[22:06] <Metigue> I'lle remember
[22:06] <Articpuss> and when you think of it, give us 5 minutes to ruin it
[22:06] <Articpuss> aka.
[22:06] <Articpuss> you might wanna keep it to yourself
[22:06] <Articpuss> if it makes you happy
[22:06] <Metigue> I'm not a bias thinker
[22:07] <Metigue> I counter argue everything I think of
[22:07] <Metigue> lol
[22:07] <Metigue> I couldn't ruin it myself
[22:07] <Articpuss> lol
[22:07] <Articpuss> live and let live?
[22:07] <Articpuss> XD
[22:07] <Metigue> brb piss
[22:07] <annabeth> When did she get them?
[22:08] <annabeth> I wonder if people get the grapes of wrath by just randomly stumbling upon it
[22:08] <annabeth> or do they use multiple accounts to refresh every minute
[22:08] <annabeth> xD
[22:08] <Metigue> randomly stumble I'd guess
[22:08] <Metigue> Anyway let me get into the right frame of mind
[22:08] <Metigue> I'lle tell you about my other thoeries
[22:09] <PantslessOaf> ommmmmmmmm
[22:09] <PantslessOaf> ommmmmmmmmmm
[22:09] <Articpuss> "oh hey, lucky me, some grapes of wrath.. luckily I got 155 dubloons on me"
[22:09] <Metigue> (I thought of these as just passing thoughts)
[22:11] <Articpuss> spill it?
[22:12] <Metigue> Ok well I reasoned with myself it was plausible that the planet earth was actually set-up as a ship
carrying the human race to a destination, perhaps we had a developed society before but something went wrong so we had to
find a new home, the planet earth was a means of getting there. I thought of this because, if you have to traverse great
distances you create conditions for sustainability to keep the race alive, and I based it on the fact that ou
[22:12] <Baenso> "that ou"
[22:12] <Articpuss> OBJECTION!
[22:12] <Articpuss> this is all nice and stuff
[22:13] <Articpuss> but this wont affect me when I am dead
[22:13] <Metigue> Yeah, it's not my meaning of life
[22:13] <Metigue> I told you
[22:13] <Metigue> I'm getting into the right mindset
[22:13] <Metigue> lol
[22:13] <Metigue> that was just a passing thought
[22:13] <Articpuss> I am getting into the phoenix mindset
[22:14] <Metigue> and who says it would have to affect you when your dead? It's the meaning of life not death
[22:14] <Articpuss> true
[22:14] <Metigue> The meaning of life is why people live in the first place
[22:14] <Metigue> otherwise why would we bother?
[22:14] <Articpuss> but the isn't the meaning of life there to motivate me from not wanting to live?
[22:14] <Metigue> why do we bother to keep living?
[22:15] <Articpuss> the perfect meaning of life is a reason not to die
[22:15] <Articpuss> thats my view
[22:15] <Metigue> Yes
[22:15] <Metigue> and my one fit it >.<
[22:15] <Metigue> But artic
[22:15] <Metigue> if there is no meaning to life why are you still living?
[22:15] <Metigue> you must believe there is a meaning to it
[22:16] <Articpuss> yep, I have not had a reason to die yet
[22:16] <Articpuss> I know what I have
[22:16] <Metigue> Your meaning to your life is a lack of a reason to die?
[22:16] <Articpuss> I do not know what death brings me
[22:16] <Articpuss> death could be crappier than life
[22:16] <Articpuss> who knows
[22:16] <Metigue> so you are afraid of death because it's the uknown?
[22:16] <Articpuss> no
[22:16] <Articpuss> I am not afraid
[22:17] <Articpuss> I just know that this place is not the worst case scenario
[22:17] <Articpuss> sure its crappy
[22:17] <Articpuss> but its not horrible
[22:17] <Metigue> it is for some
[22:17] <Articpuss> also, what if this place IS after death?
[22:17] <Articpuss> what if reincarnation is reality?
[22:17] <Articpuss> then I'd just end up throwing myself right back into it
[22:17] <Metigue> I think if you have to do life over
[22:18] <Articpuss> like Gantz
[22:18] <Metigue> you missed the meaning
[22:18] <Metigue> lol
[22:18] <Articpuss> in that case there is not a single soul in heaven hell or any beyond
[22:18] <Metigue> I think those that believe in a meaning may find something else in the after-life
[22:19] <Metigue> believing in an after-life adds meaning to life
[22:19] <Articpuss> why believe in a meaning thats unknown to you?
[22:19] <Articpuss> thats like trusting a person you've never met on the internet
[22:19] <Articpuss> and we all know how that can end up
[22:19] <Articpuss> sure some people might be reliable
[22:19] <Articpuss> but you are very likely to be scammed
[22:19] <Metigue> I know what the conclusion to my meaning of life is
[22:19] <Metigue> but I can't remember my arguments for it
[22:20] <Articpuss> well lets hear it
[22:20] <Articpuss> I'll decide for or against it
[22:20] <Metigue> The meaning of life is discovering yourself
[22:20] <Metigue> Something about that
[22:20] <Metigue> isn't quite right
[22:20] <Metigue> but when I remember my arguments
[22:20] <Metigue> I'lle add to it
[22:20] <Articpuss> discovering yourself in what way?
[22:20] * annabeth (n=27702@c-98-217-153-51.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit ("Cya suckas!")
[22:20] <Metigue> In every way
[22:20] <Articpuss> a person has more than one identity
[22:21] <Articpuss> a sexual identity
[22:21] <Articpuss> a social identity
[22:21] <Metigue> No, a person's identity is what they choose to be
[22:21] <Metigue> discovering yourself is different to knowing your identity
[22:21] <Metigue> you can make conscious decisions in life to be a different person
[22:22] <Articpuss> in the end its just discovering your own identity what you mean
[22:22] <Metigue> but if you live life without changing yourself to meet the standards of social evolution
[22:22] <Georgina> but you subconsiously act different in different situations
[22:22] <Metigue> Exactly georgina
[22:22] <Articpuss> okay, lets say you hit the nail on the head
[22:22] <Georgina> lol
[22:22] <Metigue> But you also consciously act
[22:22] <Metigue> depending on the situation
[22:22] <Metigue> what is life?
[22:22] <Articpuss> and you live your life according to your philosophy
[22:22] <Metigue> It's a set of situations
[22:22] <Metigue> one after the other
[22:22] <Articpuss> how will it ever benefit you?
[22:22] <Metigue> they help you to understand yourself
[22:23] <Metigue> It gives your life meaning
[22:23] <Georgina> i think life is something you choose it to be
[22:23] <Articpuss> people might never find themselves
[22:23] <Metigue> You can only find yourself if you don't look for it
[22:23] <Metigue> Damnit I wish I could remember my main arguments >.<
[22:23] <Metigue> lol
[22:23] <Articpuss> in that case your philosophy is useless
[22:23] <Georgina> could be self realisation, it could be doing as much as helping others as much as possible and trying to
make a difference, it could be pretty much nothing
[22:24] <Metigue> No, it gives me a reason to live
[22:24] <Articpuss> cause if you're not looking, then you are not following a meaning of life
[22:24] <Metigue> >.>
[22:24] <Metigue> No, you are living.
[22:24] <Articpuss> so I am supposed to believe in epiphany?
[22:24] <Metigue> No, thats not what I said
[22:25] <Articpuss> you know what
[22:25] <Articpuss> I think people will be disappointed when they find themselves
[22:25] <Articpuss> cause all they will ever find
[22:25] <Articpuss> is the fact that every little thing they ever wanted
[22:25] <Articpuss> only benefits themselves
[22:25] <Articpuss> and if it does happen to make someone happy
[22:25] <Articpuss> thats coincedense, and it makes you feel nice
[22:25] <Metigue> That depends on what they find
[22:25] <Articpuss> cause people call YOU a hero
[22:26] <Metigue> all I want in this world is to help other people, not to be called a hero.
[22:26] <Metigue> Just because I want to
[22:26] <Articpuss> would you like it?
[22:26] <Metigue> I would like that they got benefit from something that I did
[22:26] <Metigue> but I am not doing it to make myself feel good
[22:26] <Metigue> I'm doing it to make them feel good
[22:27] <Metigue> Like when I buy people stuff on neopets
[22:27] <Metigue> or give away money
[22:27] <Articpuss> I KINDA understand what you mean
[22:27] <Articpuss> but still
[22:27] <Articpuss> those people are dying too
[22:27] <Articpuss> those people are greedy too
[22:27] <Metigue> Let them be greedy and dying
[22:27] <Articpuss> they share all the same rotten qualities of every human being
[22:27] <Metigue> it is not there fault that they turned out that way
[22:28] <Metigue> it's the set of situations of there life
[22:28] <Articpuss> whos fault is it?
[22:28] <Articpuss> society?
[22:28] <Metigue> that made them who they are
[22:28] <Metigue> Partly
[22:28] <Articpuss> we made society
[22:28] <Metigue> It's parlty just existences fault
[22:28] <Metigue> TO many people exist on this planet for everyone to live
[22:28] <Metigue> Fact
[22:28] <Articpuss> so, existence screws us then?
[22:28] <Metigue> Yes.
[22:28] <Articpuss> then we are the parasites of this planet
[22:28] <Articpuss> for now, thats our only purpose
[22:28] <Metigue> Thats another of my passing thoughts
[22:29] <Articpuss> we exhaust resources
[22:29] <Articpuss> were the most efficient thing existant in that
[22:29] <Metigue> just to sustain our own existence
[22:29] <Articpuss> its like we were made for it
[22:29] <Articpuss> isn't it?
[22:29] <Metigue> Another of my passing thoughts
[22:30] <Metigue> is that
[22:30] <Metigue> there is a race that lives inside the planet earth
[22:30] <Metigue> or on the planet earth unseen
[22:30] <Metigue> and we were biologically engineered by a race at war with them
[22:30] <Articpuss> the indigo children?
[22:30] <Metigue> To destroy the planet
[22:30] <Metigue> ?
[22:30] <Articpuss> ok now you're getting L. Ron Hubbard on me
[22:30] <Metigue> Haha
[22:30] <Metigue> It was just a passing thought
[22:31] <Metigue> Not something I believe
[22:31] <Metigue> please don't compare me to that soul-destroying scientologist
[22:31] <Metigue> lol
[22:31] <Articpuss> its very possible that the same mistake that created us created aliens, yes.
[22:31] <Articpuss> I doubt they would be any more advanced than us
[22:31] <Metigue> Well if you believe in probability theory
[22:31] <Metigue> everything you ever think of
[22:31] <Metigue> has happened
[22:31] <Metigue> lol
[22:31] <Articpuss> true
[22:32] <Articpuss> but then the spoon does not exist
[22:32] <Metigue> No, everything exists
[22:32] <Metigue> Just not in the same place as us
[22:32] <Articpuss> not when we're a brain stuck in a jar constantly dreaming about this world
[22:32] <Articpuss> while all it is is an illusion
[22:32] <Articpuss> yes
[22:32] <Articpuss> to the brain everything exists
[22:33] <Articpuss> to the brain I would be the only person alive
[22:33] <Metigue> lol don't go all matrix on me
[22:33] <Metigue> Hmm in Conscious theory
[22:33] <Metigue> it states that
[22:34] <Metigue> one singularity, (You) creates those around them, and each other singularity forms the other singularities
around them, the other singularities become the collective, and everyone is in a singular state in there own universe
shaping and seeing differences based on each singularity as a collective.
[22:35] <Articpuss> in which case I will ask
[22:35] <Metigue> Basically meaning
[22:35] <Metigue> Everyone is selfish
[22:35] <Metigue> lol
[22:35] <Articpuss> why can't I remember creating this planet?
[22:35] <Metigue> And is unable
[22:35] <Metigue> No, it's not saying
[22:35] <Metigue> you created the world
[22:35] <Metigue> it's saying
[22:35] <Metigue> the people you know
[22:35] <Metigue> See themselves
[22:35] <Metigue> as the singularity
[22:35] <Metigue> and others as the collective
[22:35] <Articpuss> if a tree falls in the woods and no one is arouns kind of thing?
[22:36] <Articpuss> around*
[22:36] <Metigue> Nope
[22:36] <Metigue> lol
[22:36] <Georgina> wow ive made 1.1mill in the last hour ^^
[22:36] <Metigue> It's based on probability theory
[22:36] <Metigue> like
[22:36] <Metigue> In my universe
[22:36] <Metigue> I'm the singularity
[22:36] <Metigue> and because you are a singularity and exist elsewhere
[22:36] <Articpuss> or like a tree branching new singularities from the moment you lay your eye on them
[22:36] <Metigue> Probability has put you into my universe
[22:36] <Articpuss> from the moment you are aware of that person as a singularity, it is one?
[22:37] <Metigue> so my conscious shapes you and your personality as you from a singularity, but your universe is elsewhere.
[22:37] <Articpuss> hmm, I am stuck on the matrix
[22:37] <Metigue> Kind of like
[22:37] <Articpuss> let me reset
[22:37] <Metigue> no one else is real
[22:37] <Metigue> for yourself
[22:37] <Articpuss> which would explain selfishness perfectly
[22:38] <Metigue> But probability theory states, that everything that can happen, has happened
[22:38] <Metigue> Just based on what is happening to your current singularity (Existence) shapes what path your singularity
will take
[22:38] <Metigue> influenced by the previous path taken
[22:39] <Metigue> no one else has an influence on the path your conscious singularity takes
[22:39] <Metigue> according to both these theories put together
[22:39] <Metigue> lol
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[22:39] <Andyops> G'day
[22:39] <Metigue> so it's like
[22:39] <Metigue> everyone is on there own corresponding path
[22:39] <Metigue> through the universe
[22:39] <Metigue> and when they have finished that path
[22:39] <Metigue> it all starts all over again
[22:39] <Articpuss> I always theorised that life itself is a film tape, but several of them perpenducular to eachother...
call them dimension, and depending on the choices you make, the scenario tied to it is 'activated' but its not just your
choice, its everyone's choices, kind of like a hierarchy
[22:39] <Metigue> Based on those two theories
[22:40] <Metigue> Yeah, thats kind of like this
[22:40] <Metigue> but say theres 60000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000 frames in YOUR animation of the film
[22:40] <Metigue> and theres 600000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000 other animations in the film
[22:41] <Metigue> and the animations can choose based on who they are and other factors
[22:41] <Metigue> which frame they want to be next
[22:41] <Metigue> but without knowing
[22:41] <Metigue> what the frame is
[22:42] <Metigue> and Conscious theory states that everyone is in there own film
[22:42] <Metigue> lol
[22:42] <Articpuss> thats basically my idea
[22:42] <Articpuss> my head hurts
[22:42] <Metigue> I believe though that, as life is just a set of situations and believing as I do I must believe that there
is meaning behind these situations
[22:42] <Metigue> and I believe that the meaning behind these situations is to discover yourself
[22:42] <Metigue> it makes sence to me
[22:42] <Metigue> it's a reason to carry on living
[22:42] <Articpuss> I believe we are all scripted bots with a yes/no handler
[22:42] <Metigue> to find out who I am
[22:43] <Metigue> LOL
[22:43] <Metigue> xD
[22:43] <Metigue> God is like teh best coder evber
[22:43] <Metigue> If I was a christian
[22:43] <Metigue> I would Take particular note of the Adam and Eve story
[22:43] <Articpuss> the animation could be better though
[22:43] <Metigue> God is omniscient
[22:43] <Andyops> Wow, I'm confused are you directing a short film or talking about the meaning of life
[22:43] <Metigue> The current animations are caused by what path the film has taken previously
[22:44] <Metigue> only the current animations can alter the story of the film in the future
[22:44] <Metigue>
[22:44] <Metigue> Right anyway
[22:44] <Metigue> let me tell you interesting shit
[22:44] <Metigue> about christianity
[22:44] <Metigue> Adam and Eve story
[22:44] <Metigue> right
[22:44] <Articpuss> its fake?
[22:44] <Articpuss> XD
[22:44] <Metigue> God is omniscient
[22:45] <Metigue> so he knows everything will happen
[22:45] <Metigue> well probability theory
[22:45] <Metigue> every thing that has happened
[22:45] <Metigue> and what path people will choose
[22:45] <Articpuss> according to christianity god loves us
[22:45] <Metigue> he knows the outcome of free will
[22:45] <Metigue> shush
[22:45] <Metigue> lol
[22:45] <Articpuss> I was raised christian
[22:45] <Articpuss> god according to christians is omnipotent
[22:45] <Metigue> Same
[22:45] <Metigue> anyways
[22:46] <Articpuss> not just omniscient
[22:46] <Metigue> LET ME FINISH MUTHAFUCKA
[22:46] <Metigue> lol
[22:46] <Metigue> so God is omniscient
[22:46] <Metigue> he must have known adam and eve would eat the fruit?
[22:46] <Metigue> Yet he still created them
[22:46] <Articpuss> can god create a rock which he can't lift?
[22:47] <Metigue> Yes
[22:47] <Metigue> Hes Go
[22:47] <Metigue> God
[22:47] <Articpuss> but then he can't lift it
[22:47] <Metigue> Now let me theorise on christianity here
[22:47] <Articpuss> so that ruins his omnipotence
[22:47] * Adam (n=trihax@cpe-24-92-95-206.wi.res.rr.com) has left #neocodex
[22:47] <Metigue> He could edit it
[22:47] <Metigue> so he could lift it
[22:47] <Articpuss> but at one point he could not lift it
[22:47] <Metigue> "Right click -> properties -> weight 3000"
[22:47] <Metigue> Easy peasy
[22:48] <Metigue> he wouldn't have to lift it to edit it
[22:48] <Metigue> lol
[22:48] <Articpuss> attrib +l
[22:48] <Metigue> Just right click it
[22:48] <Metigue> Anyway
[22:48] <Articpuss> you dont get the point
[22:48] <Metigue> I do
[22:48] <Articpuss> if he even at ONE point
[22:48] <Articpuss> can not lift it
[22:48] <Metigue> Your saying
[22:48] <Articpuss> he cant do something
[22:48] <Metigue> he cannot lift it
[22:48] <Articpuss> making him not omnipotent
[22:48] <Metigue> which rules out omnipotence
[22:48] <Metigue> but he can lift it
[22:48] <Metigue> he is omnipotent because he can alter reality
[22:48] <Articpuss> then he can't create a rock he cant lift
[22:48] <Metigue> not because he is mega strong
[22:48] <Metigue> lol
[22:49] <Metigue> He can lift it though
[22:49] <Metigue> he would just change it
[22:49] <Metigue> so he can lift it
[22:49] <Metigue> Anyhow
[22:49] <Metigue> back to the adam and eve story
[22:49] <Articpuss> but if he needs to change it, it means it had a quality he is unable to influence
[22:49] <Metigue> No he can influence it
[22:49] <Metigue> cus he changed it
[22:49] <Metigue> lol
[22:49] <Andyops> (I don't think god's powers would extend to changing the physical manner of objects)
[22:49] <Metigue> HE created the earth didn't he?
[22:49] <Metigue> lol
[22:49] <Metigue> Anyway
[22:50] <Andyops> What he could do would be create a new way to lift it
[22:50] <Articpuss> the bible writing was mistranslated
[22:50] <Metigue> BACK TO ADAM ANDD EARTH THEORY
[22:50] <Andyops> kk
[22:50] <Articpuss> it officially said
[22:50] <Metigue> BACK TO ADAM ANDD EARTH THEORY
[22:50] <Metigue> LET ME TELL YOU SUM SHIT PLS
[22:50] <Metigue> LOLZ
[22:50] <Articpuss> "in the beginning, god split heaven and earth"
[22:50] <Metigue> This is a theory on the meaning of life
[22:50] <Metigue> for christians
[22:50] <Articpuss> not "created earth lol"
[22:50] <Metigue> That sounds like a reference to the planetary collision that seperated the earth and the moon
[22:50] <Georgina> big bang ftw
[22:51] <Metigue> which is interesting seeing as that collision gave us water which gave us life
[22:51] <Metigue> xD
[22:51] <Metigue> Anyhow
[22:51] <Metigue> Back to Adam and Eve
[22:51] <Articpuss> in that perspective, god would be an explosion
[22:51] <Metigue> So he created them
[22:51] <Articpuss> yes
[22:51] <Articpuss> fine
[22:51] <Articpuss> assume he did
[22:51] <Metigue> knowing they would eat the fruit
[22:51] <Articpuss> suddenly there were 2 humans
[22:51] <Metigue> Yep
[22:51] <Metigue> INCEST xD
[22:51] <Metigue> Anyhow
[22:52] <Metigue> He created them
[22:52] <Metigue> knowing they would eat the fruit
[22:52] <Metigue> so why create them?
[22:52] <Articpuss> I have a weird interpetation of the fruit story
[22:52] <Andyops> and then he got angry at them? what a dick
[22:52] <Metigue> if they were just going to betray you?
[22:52] <Metigue> wait
[22:52] <Metigue> therz more
[22:52] <Metigue> moar
[22:52] <Metigue> lol
[22:52] <Metigue> Erm
[22:52] <Metigue> Oh my god
[22:52] <Metigue> it was such a good point
[22:52] <Metigue> and you've made me forget it
[22:52] <Metigue> Oh yeah
[22:52] <Articpuss> mission: success
[22:52] <Articpuss> XD
[22:53] <Metigue> God lost his omniscience for humanity
[22:53] <Metigue> God does not know the outcome of free will
[22:53] <Metigue> Thats why he created us
[22:53] <Metigue> Because he was bored as shitz
[22:53] <Metigue> he did it for the lulz
[22:53] <Metigue> xD
[22:54] <Articpuss> why would he do that? why make himself as a perfect being imperfect to create some ants?
[22:54] <Metigue> Thats like the 4th or 5th meaning of life
[22:54] <Metigue> I've said now
[22:54] <Metigue> lol
[22:54] <Andyops> like how we burn ants for luls, or diff?
[22:54] <Metigue> A perfect being with nothing to do?
[22:54] <Metigue> or a powerful being with something to do
[22:54] <Georgina> i beleive in the table leg theory
[22:54] <Metigue> it's like hacking a game
[22:54] <Articpuss> still
[22:54] <Metigue> you never go full out
[22:54] <Metigue> with god mode etc.
[22:54] <Articpuss> even IF he did it because he was bored
[22:54] <Metigue> because it's boring having no challenge
[22:54] <Andyops> haha
[22:54] <Metigue> Anyway Andy
[22:54] <Articpuss> he would know what would happen BEFORE he made us
[22:55] <Metigue> you missed the better of my theories on the meaning of life
[22:55] <Metigue> xD
[22:55] <Articpuss> before he lost omniscience
[22:55] <Metigue> He would see a black pit
[22:55] <Metigue> where free will was involved
[22:55] <Metigue> lol
[22:55] <Articpuss> who cares what a fairy tale creature sees anyway?
[22:55] <Metigue> lol
[22:55] <Metigue> I do believe in God
[22:55] <Metigue> but I'm not a christian or jewish
[22:55] <Metigue> or a muslim
[22:55] <Andyops> people who don't think he's a fairy tale creature*
[22:56] <Metigue> Paganism sounds like fun
[22:56] <Metigue> I'd love to know more about it
[22:56] <Metigue> lol
[22:56] <Andyops> Yeah same, don't participate in organised religion, but believe something made us
[22:56] <Andyops> not paganism
[22:56] <Metigue> I had a DAMN good argument
[22:56] <Andyops> friggen sun worshippers
[22:56] <Metigue> for God creating us
[22:56] <Metigue> but I forgot it
[22:56] <Articpuss> baenso, you havent voiced yourself for a while
[22:56] <Metigue> lol
[22:56] <Articpuss> he's missing out on a fun discussion
[22:57] <Metigue> Artic you gotta admit some of my meaning of life theories hold water
[22:57] <Metigue> xD
[22:57] <Baenso> i've been watching a movie
[22:57] <Articpuss> also, we die in the end and nothing matters anymore
[22:57] <Metigue> You've missed 4 - 5 of my meaning of life theories
[22:57] <Metigue> lol
[22:57] <Articpuss> no meaning of life holds up against that
[22:57] <Metigue> Thats not what the meaning of life is about
[22:57] <Metigue> The meaning of death is.. well.. your subscription ran out
[22:57] <Metigue> xD
[22:58] <Metigue> Well according to the bible death is our punishment for betraying God
[22:58] <Metigue> LUL Imagine hes like got some popcorn has no idea whats gonna happen and like 5 minutes after he makes us
we eat the fruit
[22:58] <Andyops> which sucks, if he created us knowing we would betray him
[22:58] <Metigue> he would just be like
[22:58] <Metigue> "WTF"
[22:58] <Baenso> fuckkk
[22:58] <Baenso> so much to read
[22:58] <Articpuss> a loyal christian can die after 80 years, for being a naughty kid?
[22:58] <Metigue> lol
[22:58] <Metigue> Baenso it starts with the earth as a space ship theory
[22:58] <Metigue> xD
[22:59] <Metigue> I really should write all these down
[22:59] <Metigue> but some of them
[22:59] <Metigue> it's difficult to describe
[22:59] <Andyops> earth isn't a space ship, it's just a big big big coincidence...
[22:59] <Metigue> Andyops
[22:59] <Metigue> scroll up
[22:59] <Metigue> oh wait
[22:59] <Metigue> you joined lat
[23:00] <Andyops> yep
[23:00] <Metigue> you missed 3000 lines of the meaning of life discussion
[23:00] <Metigue> and about
[23:00] <Metigue> 3 theories
[23:00] <Metigue> my 3rd one is the one I believe, atleast I think it was 3rd
[23:00] <Metigue> lol
[23:00] <Articpuss> needless to say it was interesting
[23:00] <Andyops> oh my, i'm absoolutely devastated[23:00] <Articpuss> we should post this on the forums
[21:54] <Baenso> sad birthday
[21:54] <Adam> Creative
[21:54] <Metigue> I once visited a Clairvoyant
[21:54] <Baenso> inorite
[21:55] <Metigue> and they said "Happy death day -9 years"
[21:55] <Metigue> that was 8 years ago
[21:55] <Metigue>
[21:55] <Metigue> lol
[21:55] <Metigue> Dying at 19 would suck
[21:55] <Metigue> >.>
[21:56] <jzzzrboy> yes it would
[21:56] <jzzzrboy> I'd already be dead
[21:56] <Baenso> why would it suck?
[21:56] <Baenso> you'd be dead
[21:56] <Baenso> ...
[21:56] <Articpuss> nah, dying at 19 is fine
[21:56] <Baenso> dying at 19 is no different than dying at 99
[21:57] <Articpuss> exactly my thought
[21:57] <Articpuss> dead is dead
[21:57] <Baenso> good man
[21:57] <Baenso> i like your thinking
[21:57] <Baenso> i hate how death is treated so seriously
[21:57] <Metigue> Yes, but I hadn't got to experience life fully yet
[21:57] <Baenso> why does it matter?
[21:57] <Articpuss> what does it matyer
[21:57] <Articpuss> OI
[21:57] <Articpuss> matter*
[21:57] <Metigue> Because I want to experience life
[21:57] <Articpuss> why?
[21:58] <Metigue> before I experience the after life
[21:58] <Metigue> we live for a reason
[21:58] <Articpuss> ah, religious debate
[21:58] <Articpuss> I believe we live by some small coincedense
[21:58] <Metigue> Do you honestly believe that?
[21:58] <Baenso> yes
[21:58] <Baenso> i do
[21:58] <Metigue> Thats a sad existence you live in
[21:58] <Baenso> why is it sad?
[21:58] <Articpuss> do you honestly believe that we are so special?
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> Wow met
[21:59] <Metigue> Yes?
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> I believe that living via higher power
[21:59] <Articpuss> tell me, do shitflies experience a great existance?
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> is a sad existence
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> yes
[21:59] <Metigue> Oh god I am totally not religious
[21:59] <jzzzrboy> because they love shit
[21:59] <Metigue> but I do believe in a god
[21:59] <Baenso> sooo
[21:59] <Baenso> you are religious
[22:00] <Metigue> Not really
[22:00] <Metigue> Fuck christianity
[22:00] <Baenso> "having or showing belief in and reverence for a deity; "a religious man"; "religious attitude" "
[22:00] <Metigue> it's retarded and contradictary
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> Unless he falls into Theistic Agnostic
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> then technically
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> he'd be fine
[22:00] <Metigue> Well I'm not not sure
[22:00] <Metigue> I believe in a God
[22:00] <Metigue> thats all I know
[22:00] <Metigue> I don't know if I'm right or not
[22:00] <Metigue> lol
[22:00] <jzzzrboy> That's Theistic Agnostic
[22:00] <Metigue> But I'd like to think so
[22:00] <annabeth> Oi
[22:00] <annabeth> The internet is full of religious heated battlesz
[22:01] <Metigue> I know
[22:01] <Georgina> hey anna, i Rsd in maginc earlier
[22:01] <Metigue> lol
[22:01] <Articpuss> in the end we get squated and shit doesn't matter anymore, just like a shitfly
[22:01] <Baenso> because religion makes the world a shittier place
[22:01] <Georgina> magic*
[22:01] <Baenso> and thus it's a heated topic
[22:01] <annabeth> Bottom line is why is religion such a heated topic
[22:01] <annabeth> but that's your opinion
[22:01] <Metigue> I've reasoned with myself for about 18,000 hours of my life
[22:01] <Metigue> over the meaning of life
[22:01] <Metigue> and I had some pretty good arguments
[22:01] <Baenso> what a waste
[22:01] <Metigue> but I can't remember them atm
[22:01] <Baenso> there is no meaning
[22:01] <jzzzrboy> Time wasted
[22:01] <annabeth> are you saying you are superior than everyone else to convince people who are religious that they are
wasting their time? o-o and not entitled to their own beliefs and opinions?
[22:01] <Metigue> There is a meaning
[22:01] <Metigue> xD
[22:01] <Articpuss> but did you find a definate answer?
[22:02] <Metigue> Yes
[22:02] <jzzzrboy> You should have been living
[22:02] <Metigue> I did
[22:02] <Metigue> I did find a definite meaning
[22:02] <jzzzrboy> Enlighten us?
[22:02] <Metigue> But I can't remember it atm
[22:02] <annabeth> how was rsing in magic shop georgina?
[22:02] <Metigue> >.<
[22:02] <Baenso> ...
[22:02] <Metigue> I've been drinking coke
[22:02] <Articpuss> then why do you still bother living if you got all the answers?
[22:02] <Metigue> aspartame cuts my brain flow
[22:02] <Baenso> you don't just forget something like the meaning of life
[22:03] * jzzzrboy is now known as AgnisticFront
[22:03] <Metigue> I can believe that my life has meaning without being able to remember what that meaning is, can't I?
[22:03] <Articpuss> I forgot my bank pin once
[22:03] <Georgina> great anna, i got a green lenny and a red hissi
[22:03] <Baenso> me too
[22:03] * AgnisticFront is now known as AgnosticFront
[22:03] <Baenso> fucking embarassing
[22:03] <annabeth> nice
grats!!![22:03] <Metigue> I would rs in magic
[22:03] <Metigue> if I had an account over 4 months
[22:03] <Georgina> ty
[22:03] <Metigue> My friend got some grapes of wrath >.<
[22:03] <annabeth> I rsed 8 items from the spooky shop in 2 1/2 hours and got some good catches
[22:03] <Georgina> omg
[22:03] <Georgina> wow
[22:04] <Articpuss> holy shit nice
[22:04] <annabeth> haha
[22:04] <Metigue> >.>
[22:04] <annabeth> lucky friend who got it
[22:04] <Metigue> Was that a question? lol
[22:04] <Metigue> they don't go on codex
[22:04] <Metigue> neofriend lol
[22:04] <Baenso> how much are those worth
[22:04] <Baenso> grapes of wrath that is
[22:04] <Metigue> 400m
[22:04] <Baenso> psh
[22:04] <Baenso> ain't shit
[22:05] <Metigue> lol
[22:05] <Articpuss> send a sumo wrestler to his house to rape him in exchange for his account info
[22:05] <Metigue> her house
[22:05] <Metigue> xD
[22:05] <Articpuss> its house
[22:05] <Metigue> lol
[22:05] <Articpuss> internets, females, etc
[22:05] <Baenso> send me with a bat!
[22:05] <Articpuss> why would you do that
[22:05] <Articpuss> what are you gonna do with the bat?
[22:05] <Articpuss> poor thing
[22:05] <Articpuss> animal abuser
[22:05] * AgnosticFront is now known as PantslessOaf
[22:06] <Articpuss> ^nude
[22:06] <Baenso> send me with a wooden baseball bat*
[22:06] <Metigue> Rawr this is annoying me now
[22:06] <Articpuss> lmao
[22:06] <Articpuss> @
[22:06] <Metigue> I'm trying to remember my well thought out meaning of life
[22:06] <Articpuss> rawr
[22:06] <Metigue> >.<
[22:06] <Metigue> Give me an hour
[22:06] <Metigue> I'lle remember
[22:06] <Articpuss> and when you think of it, give us 5 minutes to ruin it
[22:06] <Articpuss> aka.
[22:06] <Articpuss> you might wanna keep it to yourself
[22:06] <Articpuss> if it makes you happy
[22:06] <Metigue> I'm not a bias thinker
[22:07] <Metigue> I counter argue everything I think of
[22:07] <Metigue> lol
[22:07] <Metigue> I couldn't ruin it myself
[22:07] <Articpuss> lol
[22:07] <Articpuss> live and let live?
[22:07] <Articpuss> XD
[22:07] <Metigue> brb piss
[22:07] <annabeth> When did she get them?
[22:08] <annabeth> I wonder if people get the grapes of wrath by just randomly stumbling upon it
[22:08] <annabeth> or do they use multiple accounts to refresh every minute
[22:08] <annabeth> xD
[22:08] <Metigue> randomly stumble I'd guess
[22:08] <Metigue> Anyway let me get into the right frame of mind
[22:08] <Metigue> I'lle tell you about my other thoeries
[22:09] <PantslessOaf> ommmmmmmmm
[22:09] <PantslessOaf> ommmmmmmmmmm
[22:09] <Articpuss> "oh hey, lucky me, some grapes of wrath.. luckily I got 155 dubloons on me"
[22:09] <Metigue> (I thought of these as just passing thoughts)
[22:11] <Articpuss> spill it?
[22:12] <Metigue> Ok well I reasoned with myself it was plausible that the planet earth was actually set-up as a ship
carrying the human race to a destination, perhaps we had a developed society before but something went wrong so we had to
find a new home, the planet earth was a means of getting there. I thought of this because, if you have to traverse great
distances you create conditions for sustainability to keep the race alive, and I based it on the fact that ou
[22:12] <Baenso> "that ou"
[22:12] <Articpuss> OBJECTION!
[22:12] <Articpuss> this is all nice and stuff
[22:13] <Articpuss> but this wont affect me when I am dead
[22:13] <Metigue> Yeah, it's not my meaning of life
[22:13] <Metigue> I told you
[22:13] <Metigue> I'm getting into the right mindset
[22:13] <Metigue> lol
[22:13] <Metigue> that was just a passing thought
[22:13] <Articpuss> I am getting into the phoenix mindset
[22:14] <Metigue> and who says it would have to affect you when your dead? It's the meaning of life not death
[22:14] <Articpuss> true
[22:14] <Metigue> The meaning of life is why people live in the first place
[22:14] <Metigue> otherwise why would we bother?
[22:14] <Articpuss> but the isn't the meaning of life there to motivate me from not wanting to live?
[22:14] <Metigue> why do we bother to keep living?
[22:15] <Articpuss> the perfect meaning of life is a reason not to die
[22:15] <Articpuss> thats my view
[22:15] <Metigue> Yes
[22:15] <Metigue> and my one fit it >.<
[22:15] <Metigue> But artic
[22:15] <Metigue> if there is no meaning to life why are you still living?
[22:15] <Metigue> you must believe there is a meaning to it
[22:16] <Articpuss> yep, I have not had a reason to die yet
[22:16] <Articpuss> I know what I have
[22:16] <Metigue> Your meaning to your life is a lack of a reason to die?
[22:16] <Articpuss> I do not know what death brings me
[22:16] <Articpuss> death could be crappier than life
[22:16] <Articpuss> who knows
[22:16] <Metigue> so you are afraid of death because it's the uknown?
[22:16] <Articpuss> no
[22:16] <Articpuss> I am not afraid
[22:17] <Articpuss> I just know that this place is not the worst case scenario
[22:17] <Articpuss> sure its crappy
[22:17] <Articpuss> but its not horrible
[22:17] <Metigue> it is for some
[22:17] <Articpuss> also, what if this place IS after death?
[22:17] <Articpuss> what if reincarnation is reality?
[22:17] <Articpuss> then I'd just end up throwing myself right back into it
[22:17] <Metigue> I think if you have to do life over
[22:18] <Articpuss> like Gantz
[22:18] <Metigue> you missed the meaning
[22:18] <Metigue> lol
[22:18] <Articpuss> in that case there is not a single soul in heaven hell or any beyond
[22:18] <Metigue> I think those that believe in a meaning may find something else in the after-life
[22:19] <Metigue> believing in an after-life adds meaning to life
[22:19] <Articpuss> why believe in a meaning thats unknown to you?
[22:19] <Articpuss> thats like trusting a person you've never met on the internet
[22:19] <Articpuss> and we all know how that can end up
[22:19] <Articpuss> sure some people might be reliable
[22:19] <Articpuss> but you are very likely to be scammed
[22:19] <Metigue> I know what the conclusion to my meaning of life is
[22:19] <Metigue> but I can't remember my arguments for it
[22:20] <Articpuss> well lets hear it
[22:20] <Articpuss> I'll decide for or against it
[22:20] <Metigue> The meaning of life is discovering yourself
[22:20] <Metigue> Something about that
[22:20] <Metigue> isn't quite right
[22:20] <Metigue> but when I remember my arguments
[22:20] <Metigue> I'lle add to it
[22:20] <Articpuss> discovering yourself in what way?
[22:20] * annabeth (n=27702@c-98-217-153-51.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit ("Cya suckas!")
[22:20] <Metigue> In every way
[22:20] <Articpuss> a person has more than one identity
[22:21] <Articpuss> a sexual identity
[22:21] <Articpuss> a social identity
[22:21] <Metigue> No, a person's identity is what they choose to be
[22:21] <Metigue> discovering yourself is different to knowing your identity
[22:21] <Metigue> you can make conscious decisions in life to be a different person
[22:22] <Articpuss> in the end its just discovering your own identity what you mean
[22:22] <Metigue> but if you live life without changing yourself to meet the standards of social evolution
[22:22] <Georgina> but you subconsiously act different in different situations
[22:22] <Metigue> Exactly georgina
[22:22] <Articpuss> okay, lets say you hit the nail on the head
[22:22] <Georgina> lol
[22:22] <Metigue> But you also consciously act
[22:22] <Metigue> depending on the situation
[22:22] <Metigue> what is life?
[22:22] <Articpuss> and you live your life according to your philosophy
[22:22] <Metigue> It's a set of situations
[22:22] <Metigue> one after the other
[22:22] <Articpuss> how will it ever benefit you?
[22:22] <Metigue> they help you to understand yourself
[22:23] <Metigue> It gives your life meaning
[22:23] <Georgina> i think life is something you choose it to be
[22:23] <Articpuss> people might never find themselves
[22:23] <Metigue> You can only find yourself if you don't look for it
[22:23] <Metigue> Damnit I wish I could remember my main arguments >.<
[22:23] <Metigue> lol
[22:23] <Articpuss> in that case your philosophy is useless
[22:23] <Georgina> could be self realisation, it could be doing as much as helping others as much as possible and trying to
make a difference, it could be pretty much nothing
[22:24] <Metigue> No, it gives me a reason to live
[22:24] <Articpuss> cause if you're not looking, then you are not following a meaning of life
[22:24] <Metigue> >.>
[22:24] <Metigue> No, you are living.
[22:24] <Articpuss> so I am supposed to believe in epiphany?
[22:24] <Metigue> No, thats not what I said
[22:25] <Articpuss> you know what
[22:25] <Articpuss> I think people will be disappointed when they find themselves
[22:25] <Articpuss> cause all they will ever find
[22:25] <Articpuss> is the fact that every little thing they ever wanted
[22:25] <Articpuss> only benefits themselves
[22:25] <Articpuss> and if it does happen to make someone happy
[22:25] <Articpuss> thats coincedense, and it makes you feel nice
[22:25] <Metigue> That depends on what they find
[22:25] <Articpuss> cause people call YOU a hero
[22:26] <Metigue> all I want in this world is to help other people, not to be called a hero.
[22:26] <Metigue> Just because I want to
[22:26] <Articpuss> would you like it?
[22:26] <Metigue> I would like that they got benefit from something that I did
[22:26] <Metigue> but I am not doing it to make myself feel good
[22:26] <Metigue> I'm doing it to make them feel good
[22:27] <Metigue> Like when I buy people stuff on neopets
[22:27] <Metigue> or give away money
[22:27] <Articpuss> I KINDA understand what you mean
[22:27] <Articpuss> but still
[22:27] <Articpuss> those people are dying too
[22:27] <Articpuss> those people are greedy too
[22:27] <Metigue> Let them be greedy and dying
[22:27] <Articpuss> they share all the same rotten qualities of every human being
[22:27] <Metigue> it is not there fault that they turned out that way
[22:28] <Metigue> it's the set of situations of there life
[22:28] <Articpuss> whos fault is it?
[22:28] <Articpuss> society?
[22:28] <Metigue> that made them who they are
[22:28] <Metigue> Partly
[22:28] <Articpuss> we made society
[22:28] <Metigue> It's parlty just existences fault
[22:28] <Metigue> TO many people exist on this planet for everyone to live
[22:28] <Metigue> Fact
[22:28] <Articpuss> so, existence screws us then?
[22:28] <Metigue> Yes.
[22:28] <Articpuss> then we are the parasites of this planet
[22:28] <Articpuss> for now, thats our only purpose
[22:28] <Metigue> Thats another of my passing thoughts
[22:29] <Articpuss> we exhaust resources
[22:29] <Articpuss> were the most efficient thing existant in that
[22:29] <Metigue> just to sustain our own existence
[22:29] <Articpuss> its like we were made for it
[22:29] <Articpuss> isn't it?
[22:29] <Metigue> Another of my passing thoughts
[22:30] <Metigue> is that
[22:30] <Metigue> there is a race that lives inside the planet earth
[22:30] <Metigue> or on the planet earth unseen
[22:30] <Metigue> and we were biologically engineered by a race at war with them
[22:30] <Articpuss> the indigo children?
[22:30] <Metigue> To destroy the planet
[22:30] <Metigue> ?
[22:30] <Articpuss> ok now you're getting L. Ron Hubbard on me
[22:30] <Metigue> Haha
[22:30] <Metigue> It was just a passing thought
[22:31] <Metigue> Not something I believe
[22:31] <Metigue> please don't compare me to that soul-destroying scientologist
[22:31] <Metigue> lol
[22:31] <Articpuss> its very possible that the same mistake that created us created aliens, yes.
[22:31] <Articpuss> I doubt they would be any more advanced than us
[22:31] <Metigue> Well if you believe in probability theory
[22:31] <Metigue> everything you ever think of
[22:31] <Metigue> has happened
[22:31] <Metigue> lol
[22:31] <Articpuss> true
[22:32] <Articpuss> but then the spoon does not exist
[22:32] <Metigue> No, everything exists
[22:32] <Metigue> Just not in the same place as us
[22:32] <Articpuss> not when we're a brain stuck in a jar constantly dreaming about this world
[22:32] <Articpuss> while all it is is an illusion
[22:32] <Articpuss> yes
[22:32] <Articpuss> to the brain everything exists
[22:33] <Articpuss> to the brain I would be the only person alive
[22:33] <Metigue> lol don't go all matrix on me
[22:33] <Metigue> Hmm in Conscious theory
[22:33] <Metigue> it states that
[22:34] <Metigue> one singularity, (You) creates those around them, and each other singularity forms the other singularities
around them, the other singularities become the collective, and everyone is in a singular state in there own universe
shaping and seeing differences based on each singularity as a collective.
[22:35] <Articpuss> in which case I will ask
[22:35] <Metigue> Basically meaning
[22:35] <Metigue> Everyone is selfish
[22:35] <Metigue> lol
[22:35] <Articpuss> why can't I remember creating this planet?
[22:35] <Metigue> And is unable
[22:35] <Metigue> No, it's not saying
[22:35] <Metigue> you created the world
[22:35] <Metigue> it's saying
[22:35] <Metigue> the people you know
[22:35] <Metigue> See themselves
[22:35] <Metigue> as the singularity
[22:35] <Metigue> and others as the collective
[22:35] <Articpuss> if a tree falls in the woods and no one is arouns kind of thing?
[22:36] <Articpuss> around*
[22:36] <Metigue> Nope
[22:36] <Metigue> lol
[22:36] <Georgina> wow ive made 1.1mill in the last hour ^^
[22:36] <Metigue> It's based on probability theory
[22:36] <Metigue> like
[22:36] <Metigue> In my universe
[22:36] <Metigue> I'm the singularity
[22:36] <Metigue> and because you are a singularity and exist elsewhere
[22:36] <Articpuss> or like a tree branching new singularities from the moment you lay your eye on them
[22:36] <Metigue> Probability has put you into my universe
[22:36] <Articpuss> from the moment you are aware of that person as a singularity, it is one?
[22:37] <Metigue> so my conscious shapes you and your personality as you from a singularity, but your universe is elsewhere.
[22:37] <Articpuss> hmm, I am stuck on the matrix
[22:37] <Metigue> Kind of like
[22:37] <Articpuss> let me reset
[22:37] <Metigue> no one else is real
[22:37] <Metigue> for yourself
[22:37] <Articpuss> which would explain selfishness perfectly
[22:38] <Metigue> But probability theory states, that everything that can happen, has happened
[22:38] <Metigue> Just based on what is happening to your current singularity (Existence) shapes what path your singularity
will take
[22:38] <Metigue> influenced by the previous path taken
[22:39] <Metigue> no one else has an influence on the path your conscious singularity takes
[22:39] <Metigue> according to both these theories put together
[22:39] <Metigue> lol
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[22:39] <Andyops> G'day
[22:39] <Metigue> so it's like
[22:39] <Metigue> everyone is on there own corresponding path
[22:39] <Metigue> through the universe
[22:39] <Metigue> and when they have finished that path
[22:39] <Metigue> it all starts all over again
[22:39] <Articpuss> I always theorised that life itself is a film tape, but several of them perpenducular to eachother...
call them dimension, and depending on the choices you make, the scenario tied to it is 'activated' but its not just your
choice, its everyone's choices, kind of like a hierarchy
[22:39] <Metigue> Based on those two theories
[22:40] <Metigue> Yeah, thats kind of like this
[22:40] <Metigue> but say theres 60000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000 frames in YOUR animation of the film
[22:40] <Metigue> and theres 600000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000 other animations in the film
[22:41] <Metigue> and the animations can choose based on who they are and other factors
[22:41] <Metigue> which frame they want to be next
[22:41] <Metigue> but without knowing
[22:41] <Metigue> what the frame is
[22:42] <Metigue> and Conscious theory states that everyone is in there own film
[22:42] <Metigue> lol
[22:42] <Articpuss> thats basically my idea
[22:42] <Articpuss> my head hurts
[22:42] <Metigue> I believe though that, as life is just a set of situations and believing as I do I must believe that there
is meaning behind these situations
[22:42] <Metigue> and I believe that the meaning behind these situations is to discover yourself
[22:42] <Metigue> it makes sence to me
[22:42] <Metigue> it's a reason to carry on living
[22:42] <Articpuss> I believe we are all scripted bots with a yes/no handler
[22:42] <Metigue> to find out who I am
[22:43] <Metigue> LOL
[22:43] <Metigue> xD
[22:43] <Metigue> God is like teh best coder evber
[22:43] <Metigue> If I was a christian
[22:43] <Metigue> I would Take particular note of the Adam and Eve story
[22:43] <Articpuss> the animation could be better though
[22:43] <Metigue> God is omniscient
[22:43] <Andyops> Wow, I'm confused are you directing a short film or talking about the meaning of life
[22:43] <Metigue> The current animations are caused by what path the film has taken previously
[22:44] <Metigue> only the current animations can alter the story of the film in the future
[22:44] <Metigue>
[22:44] <Metigue> Right anyway
[22:44] <Metigue> let me tell you interesting shit
[22:44] <Metigue> about christianity
[22:44] <Metigue> Adam and Eve story
[22:44] <Metigue> right
[22:44] <Articpuss> its fake?
[22:44] <Articpuss> XD
[22:44] <Metigue> God is omniscient
[22:45] <Metigue> so he knows everything will happen
[22:45] <Metigue> well probability theory
[22:45] <Metigue> every thing that has happened
[22:45] <Metigue> and what path people will choose
[22:45] <Articpuss> according to christianity god loves us
[22:45] <Metigue> he knows the outcome of free will
[22:45] <Metigue> shush
[22:45] <Metigue> lol
[22:45] <Articpuss> I was raised christian
[22:45] <Articpuss> god according to christians is omnipotent
[22:45] <Metigue> Same
[22:45] <Metigue> anyways
[22:46] <Articpuss> not just omniscient
[22:46] <Metigue> LET ME FINISH MUTHAFUCKA
[22:46] <Metigue> lol
[22:46] <Metigue> so God is omniscient
[22:46] <Metigue> he must have known adam and eve would eat the fruit?
[22:46] <Metigue> Yet he still created them
[22:46] <Articpuss> can god create a rock which he can't lift?
[22:47] <Metigue> Yes
[22:47] <Metigue> Hes Go
[22:47] <Metigue> God
[22:47] <Articpuss> but then he can't lift it
[22:47] <Metigue> Now let me theorise on christianity here
[22:47] <Articpuss> so that ruins his omnipotence
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[22:47] <Metigue> He could edit it
[22:47] <Metigue> so he could lift it
[22:47] <Articpuss> but at one point he could not lift it
[22:47] <Metigue> "Right click -> properties -> weight 3000"
[22:47] <Metigue> Easy peasy
[22:48] <Metigue> he wouldn't have to lift it to edit it
[22:48] <Metigue> lol
[22:48] <Articpuss> attrib +l
[22:48] <Metigue> Just right click it
[22:48] <Metigue> Anyway
[22:48] <Articpuss> you dont get the point
[22:48] <Metigue> I do
[22:48] <Articpuss> if he even at ONE point
[22:48] <Articpuss> can not lift it
[22:48] <Metigue> Your saying
[22:48] <Articpuss> he cant do something
[22:48] <Metigue> he cannot lift it
[22:48] <Articpuss> making him not omnipotent
[22:48] <Metigue> which rules out omnipotence
[22:48] <Metigue> but he can lift it
[22:48] <Metigue> he is omnipotent because he can alter reality
[22:48] <Articpuss> then he can't create a rock he cant lift
[22:48] <Metigue> not because he is mega strong
[22:48] <Metigue> lol
[22:49] <Metigue> He can lift it though
[22:49] <Metigue> he would just change it
[22:49] <Metigue> so he can lift it
[22:49] <Metigue> Anyhow
[22:49] <Metigue> back to the adam and eve story
[22:49] <Articpuss> but if he needs to change it, it means it had a quality he is unable to influence
[22:49] <Metigue> No he can influence it
[22:49] <Metigue> cus he changed it
[22:49] <Metigue> lol
[22:49] <Andyops> (I don't think god's powers would extend to changing the physical manner of objects)
[22:49] <Metigue> HE created the earth didn't he?
[22:49] <Metigue> lol
[22:49] <Metigue> Anyway
[22:50] <Andyops> What he could do would be create a new way to lift it
[22:50] <Articpuss> the bible writing was mistranslated
[22:50] <Metigue> BACK TO ADAM ANDD EARTH THEORY
[22:50] <Andyops> kk
[22:50] <Articpuss> it officially said
[22:50] <Metigue> BACK TO ADAM ANDD EARTH THEORY
[22:50] <Metigue> LET ME TELL YOU SUM SHIT PLS
[22:50] <Metigue> LOLZ
[22:50] <Articpuss> "in the beginning, god split heaven and earth"
[22:50] <Metigue> This is a theory on the meaning of life
[22:50] <Metigue> for christians
[22:50] <Articpuss> not "created earth lol"
[22:50] <Metigue> That sounds like a reference to the planetary collision that seperated the earth and the moon
[22:50] <Georgina> big bang ftw
[22:51] <Metigue> which is interesting seeing as that collision gave us water which gave us life
[22:51] <Metigue> xD
[22:51] <Metigue> Anyhow
[22:51] <Metigue> Back to Adam and Eve
[22:51] <Articpuss> in that perspective, god would be an explosion
[22:51] <Metigue> So he created them
[22:51] <Articpuss> yes
[22:51] <Articpuss> fine
[22:51] <Articpuss> assume he did
[22:51] <Metigue> knowing they would eat the fruit
[22:51] <Articpuss> suddenly there were 2 humans
[22:51] <Metigue> Yep
[22:51] <Metigue> INCEST xD
[22:51] <Metigue> Anyhow
[22:52] <Metigue> He created them
[22:52] <Metigue> knowing they would eat the fruit
[22:52] <Metigue> so why create them?
[22:52] <Articpuss> I have a weird interpetation of the fruit story
[22:52] <Andyops> and then he got angry at them? what a dick
[22:52] <Metigue> if they were just going to betray you?
[22:52] <Metigue> wait
[22:52] <Metigue> therz more
[22:52] <Metigue> moar
[22:52] <Metigue> lol
[22:52] <Metigue> Erm
[22:52] <Metigue> Oh my god
[22:52] <Metigue> it was such a good point
[22:52] <Metigue> and you've made me forget it
[22:52] <Metigue> Oh yeah
[22:52] <Articpuss> mission: success
[22:52] <Articpuss> XD
[22:53] <Metigue> God lost his omniscience for humanity
[22:53] <Metigue> God does not know the outcome of free will
[22:53] <Metigue> Thats why he created us
[22:53] <Metigue> Because he was bored as shitz
[22:53] <Metigue> he did it for the lulz
[22:53] <Metigue> xD
[22:54] <Articpuss> why would he do that? why make himself as a perfect being imperfect to create some ants?
[22:54] <Metigue> Thats like the 4th or 5th meaning of life
[22:54] <Metigue> I've said now
[22:54] <Metigue> lol
[22:54] <Andyops> like how we burn ants for luls, or diff?
[22:54] <Metigue> A perfect being with nothing to do?
[22:54] <Metigue> or a powerful being with something to do
[22:54] <Georgina> i beleive in the table leg theory
[22:54] <Metigue> it's like hacking a game
[22:54] <Articpuss> still
[22:54] <Metigue> you never go full out
[22:54] <Metigue> with god mode etc.
[22:54] <Articpuss> even IF he did it because he was bored
[22:54] <Metigue> because it's boring having no challenge
[22:54] <Andyops> haha
[22:54] <Metigue> Anyway Andy
[22:54] <Articpuss> he would know what would happen BEFORE he made us
[22:55] <Metigue> you missed the better of my theories on the meaning of life
[22:55] <Metigue> xD
[22:55] <Articpuss> before he lost omniscience
[22:55] <Metigue> He would see a black pit
[22:55] <Metigue> where free will was involved
[22:55] <Metigue> lol
[22:55] <Articpuss> who cares what a fairy tale creature sees anyway?
[22:55] <Metigue> lol
[22:55] <Metigue> I do believe in God
[22:55] <Metigue> but I'm not a christian or jewish
[22:55] <Metigue> or a muslim
[22:55] <Andyops> people who don't think he's a fairy tale creature*
[22:56] <Metigue> Paganism sounds like fun
[22:56] <Metigue> I'd love to know more about it
[22:56] <Metigue> lol
[22:56] <Andyops> Yeah same, don't participate in organised religion, but believe something made us
[22:56] <Andyops> not paganism
[22:56] <Metigue> I had a DAMN good argument
[22:56] <Andyops> friggen sun worshippers
[22:56] <Metigue> for God creating us
[22:56] <Metigue> but I forgot it
[22:56] <Articpuss> baenso, you havent voiced yourself for a while
[22:56] <Metigue> lol
[22:56] <Articpuss> he's missing out on a fun discussion
[22:57] <Metigue> Artic you gotta admit some of my meaning of life theories hold water
[22:57] <Metigue> xD
[22:57] <Baenso> i've been watching a movie
[22:57] <Articpuss> also, we die in the end and nothing matters anymore
[22:57] <Metigue> You've missed 4 - 5 of my meaning of life theories
[22:57] <Metigue> lol
[22:57] <Articpuss> no meaning of life holds up against that
[22:57] <Metigue> Thats not what the meaning of life is about
[22:57] <Metigue> The meaning of death is.. well.. your subscription ran out
[22:57] <Metigue> xD
[22:58] <Metigue> Well according to the bible death is our punishment for betraying God
[22:58] <Metigue> LUL Imagine hes like got some popcorn has no idea whats gonna happen and like 5 minutes after he makes us
we eat the fruit
[22:58] <Andyops> which sucks, if he created us knowing we would betray him
[22:58] <Metigue> he would just be like
[22:58] <Metigue> "WTF"
[22:58] <Baenso> fuckkk
[22:58] <Baenso> so much to read
[22:58] <Articpuss> a loyal christian can die after 80 years, for being a naughty kid?
[22:58] <Metigue> lol
[22:58] <Metigue> Baenso it starts with the earth as a space ship theory
[22:58] <Metigue> xD
[22:59] <Metigue> I really should write all these down
[22:59] <Metigue> but some of them
[22:59] <Metigue> it's difficult to describe
[22:59] <Andyops> earth isn't a space ship, it's just a big big big coincidence...
[22:59] <Metigue> Andyops
[22:59] <Metigue> scroll up
[22:59] <Metigue> oh wait
[22:59] <Metigue> you joined lat
[23:00] <Andyops> yep
[23:00] <Metigue> you missed 3000 lines of the meaning of life discussion
[23:00] <Metigue> and about
[23:00] <Metigue> 3 theories
[23:00] <Metigue> my 3rd one is the one I believe, atleast I think it was 3rd
[23:00] <Metigue> lol
[23:00] <Articpuss> needless to say it was interesting
[23:00] <Andyops> oh my, i'm absoolutely devastated
[23:00] <Articpuss> we should post this on the forumsWarning: very lengthy, it was a pretty intense discussion, feel free to contribute.
