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#1 Noitidart

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:13 AM

Apparently the duped items issue hasn't been resolved. Originally it was Chokato (TCG) but there may be more. So don't accept any offers that are in overpay.

Overpay is like I have a Turmac petpet in trades. It's worth 3m but someone just offered like a Chokato (TCG) which is worth 12m. It's a duped item and their trying to get rid of it.

Especially if it is a Chokato (TCG). Even if you innocently get a duped item on your account you will most likely get frozen. :(

This is like morning old news. If anything happened (like TNT removed all duped items. Did they remove any yet?) since 18 hours ago please update us!
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    #2 jcrboy

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:15 AM

    I thought that TNT cleared the "duped" Chokato(TCG)s as perfectly fine (?)

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    #3 Noitidart

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:23 AM

    Oh nice! Did they get the other items too? This morning there was chat of other items that got duped and overpay still happening.
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    #4 Kway

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:36 AM

    View PostNoitidart, on 24 February 2010 - 12:23 AM, said:

    Oh nice! Did they get the other items too?

    I have no idea

    View PostNoitidart, on 24 February 2010 - 12:23 AM, said:

    This morning there was chat of other items that got duped and overpay still happening.

    They are probably people that are too scared to even risk but it is still against the rules as tnt might think you scammed the person who overpaid.

    I wouldn't worry about the duped items as long as the price isn't higher or lower than the current market value.
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    #5 Noitidart

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:38 AM

    Did any of the duped items escape removal?
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    #6 jcrboy

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:55 AM

    I didn't hear about any duped items besides the Chokatos... and those just happened to turn up as a side effect of TNT trying to fight inflation (?)

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    #7 Nearx

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:48 AM

    Duped items? What are these? Fake?

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    #8 jcrboy

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:57 AM

    View PostHiXael, on 24 February 2010 - 01:48 AM, said:

    Duped items? What are these? Fake?

    Not quite... even those the current rash of "duped" reports seem to be false...

    An item has a unique identifier tied to it. If a person were able to access TNT's database and mess around with things... instead of generating a whole new item (complicated)... it's much easier to take an existing item and generate more of it.

    This is more along the lines of Copy/Paste instead of making an entirely new item.

    The unique identifier will remain on all the copy/pasted items... making it incredibly easy for TNT to hunt down and delete all the duplicates.

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    #9 Nearx

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:05 AM

    Huh... Nice... Do the duplicates have the same exact effect as the original?

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    #10 jcrboy

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:08 AM

    View PostHiXael, on 24 February 2010 - 02:05 AM, said:

    Huh... Nice... Do the duplicates have the same exact effect as the original?

    Yes... but with the added effect that owning one, whether you knew it was duped or not, will get you frozen.

    I'm almost tempted to think that calling the Chokatos duped sounds like a great scam to deflate the price so that you can pick some up while everyone is in a rush to unload them.

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    #11 Nearx

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:16 AM

    Possibly... Maybe I should grab some. Is that why I've seen them for 6m?

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    #12 jcrboy

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:51 AM

    If you feel like making an expensive investment that will pay off eventually, go for it. I dunno if the Chokatos qualify as ETS or not... but they must be at least slightly difficult... what with the high price tag and such.

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    #13 Adam

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:41 AM

    I remember the first wave of dupe shit years back lol. I had 2 SOS a fss and jade ss. Then my ass got iced when I didn't even do the duping. :(

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    #14 Metigue

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:27 AM

    I warned you guys there was a new dupe way back when I got my GoW lol
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    #15 Philly

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:33 AM

    So they are really trying to get rid of those items and get poor people frozen huh? Pretty silly I'd say. Thanks for the heads up.
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    #16 Boggart

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:39 AM

    yeah I saw a Chokato for just under 5 mil and NO one is bidding on it.
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    #17 Metigue

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 06:45 AM

    Hmm, whats strange is that although people on certain other cheat sites claim to be able to dupe, they claim that there method is 'undetectable' and that they have not duped any Chokatos

    Edited by Metigue, 24 February 2010 - 06:45 AM.

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    #18 talbs

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:21 AM

    View PostMetigue, on 24 February 2010 - 06:45 AM, said:

    Hmm, whats strange is that although people on certain other cheat sites claim to be able to dupe, they claim that there method is 'undetectable' and that they have not duped any Chokatos

    i have a chokato i have been trying to sale and i only get offers like 400k lol so i will keep it

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    #19 Annabeth

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:42 AM

    I'm confused. So these Chokato (TCG) are duped? or not duped? o.o. Cause i've seen multiple screenshots of people saying it's not duped.
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    #20 Noitidart

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 09:38 AM

    Oh thanks jc man for being on top of things.
    The weird thing is though that choakto prices are still not back to what they were.
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    #21 Jake2

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 09:47 AM

    Annabeth - the chokato (TCG) 'problems' are fine. there's no need to worry.

    Edited by Jaaaaake, 24 February 2010 - 11:13 AM.



    #22 iargue

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 11:46 AM

    I wonder what script handles the creation of items for shops. Hrm....


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    #23 Barracuda

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 11:56 AM

    View Postjcrboy, on 24 February 2010 - 01:57 AM, said:


    An item has a unique identifier tied to it. If a person were able to access TNT's database and mess around with things... instead of generating a whole new item (complicated)... it's much easier to take an existing item and generate more of it.

    This is more along the lines of Copy/Paste instead of making an entirely new item.

    The unique identifier will remain on all the copy/pasted items... making it incredibly easy for TNT to hunt down and delete all the duplicates.

    thank you for your insightful explanation on duped items. I had been wondering what on earth those where supposed to be.
    I do believe I have never seen or bought a duped item in all my 6 years on neopets. but then I have only recently become very active.
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    #24 Jake2

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:16 PM

    View PostBarracuda, on 24 February 2010 - 11:56 AM, said:

    thank you for your insightful explanation on duped items. I had been wondering what on earth those where supposed to be.
    I do believe I have never seen or bought a duped item in all my 6 years on neopets. but then I have only recently become very active.

    TNT are a bunch of shitheads to be blunt. Even if you stumble across a duped item you're still going to get iced and unless you're featheralley or munsterpoo you're not getting your account back unless you're buddies with staff members. & be 'stumble across' I mean someone offers you one for your trade and you accept [they might have a nice account and you believe it's not duped].

    Edited by Jaaaaake, 24 February 2010 - 12:39 PM.



    #25 Sweeney

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    Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:19 PM

    View PostJaaaaake, on 24 February 2010 - 12:16 PM, said:

    TNT are a bunch of shitheads to be blunt. Even if you stumble across a duped item you're still going to get iced and unless you're featheralley, munsterpoo or garet_jaxx you're not getting your account back unless you're buddies with staff members. & be 'stumble across' I mean someone offers you one for your trade and you accept [they might have a nice account and you believe it's not duped].
    I know the other two... but garet_jaxx?


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