[Warriors]

This may sound a bit noobish so please forgive me...also I'm on my phone so forgive any spElling errors...

This site seems to be an easy find yet how are the programs still effective? It seems to me Any snitch or TNT staffer can stumble onto this site and find the ab program as well as other programs....yet here the forums and programs...just wondering

[Elindoril]

For one, there is very little TNT can do to prevent programs, even if they find a way to stop the ones we already have, it would not be hard to build a new one.

Also, if I remember correctly, TNTs IP's are known by the staff and have been blocked so they can't come and be spies all the time.

[queen]

im sure i've seen a post like this a month ago. i have to admit this site wasn't easy to find for me i dont think tnt can do anything with abrosia

[xeternalxshadowx]

That's a good question, but yeah, what would they be able to do it? There's no way for them to know who it is that's using the program.

[Boggart]

An advantage is that this is a smaller site, unlike some of the many bigger ones. And most people on this site are knowledgeable about hiding their identities, and the programmers are super smart and know what they're doing.

I wouldn't worry about it.

[queen]

Bohgaurd, on 10 March 2010 - 08:27 PM, said:

An advantage is that this is a smaller site, unlike some of the many bigger ones. And most people on this site are knowledgeable about hiding their identities, and the programmers are super smart and know what they're doing.

I wouldn't worry about it.

That's why i love neocodex and don't worry about anything

[Boggart]

Me too Everyone's so helpful

As long as you're not a huge asshole

[Elindoril]

Bohgaurd, on 10 March 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

As long as you're not a huge asshole

I'm a helpful asshole.....

[Boggart]

Elindoril, on 10 March 2010 - 08:57 PM, said:

I'm a helpful asshole.....

I meant NC helps people who are not assholes.

Sometimes it's fun being an asshole to people clearly leeching and what not

[jonnykun]

hey i got a question too, if someone can help me out with it:

i just restocked a rare morphing potion. would it be okay to continue rsing, or just quit for the day...i don't want to run the risk of getting banned!

[talbs]

jonnykun, on 10 March 2010 - 09:07 PM, said:

hey i got a question too, if someone can help me out with it:

i just restocked a rare morphing potion. would it be okay to continue rsing, or just quit for the day...i don't want to run the risk of getting banned!

i would call it quits for the day but thats just me

[Warriors]

Bohgaurd, on 10 March 2010 - 08:59 PM, said:

I meant NC helps people who are not assholes.

Sometimes it's fun being an asshole to people clearly leeching and what not

Ahaha thanks everyone for the answers and hey the worldneeds assholes = d. To be honest it took me awhile to find this site too bt who knows from what I see on neos hoards almost everyone is a report happy, someone else is better on me neo whore...that's why I find it astonishing that no one spilt over from neopets and started going crazy over here...

[Boggart]

jonnykun, on 10 March 2010 - 09:07 PM, said:

hey i got a question too, if someone can help me out with it:

i just restocked a rare morphing potion. would it be okay to continue rsing, or just quit for the day...i don't want to run the risk of getting banned!

After 1 MP i'd usually not AB for the rest of the day

Or I'd go on a side

[jonnykun]

thanks guys for the advice. my only concern is running abrosia with the scheduler on, rsing a rare potion while i'm gone, and the prog will continue rsing for me regardless of my new rs'd potion. how would you handle this situation

Edit: sorry to go off topic here haha i didn't want to make a new thread just for my noob questions. but to contribute to the topic at hand, tnt are bastards, and they couldn't do anything to stop abrosia if they wanted to. it's too humanlike when used properly!

This post has been edited by jonnykun: 10 March 2010 - 09:19 PM

[Boggart]

jonnykun, on 10 March 2010 - 09:17 PM, said:

thanks guys for the advice. my only concern is running abrosia with the scheduler on, rsing a rare potion while i'm gone, and the prog will continue rsing for me regardless of my new rs'd potion. how would you handle this situation

Edit: sorry to go off topic here haha i didn't want to make a new thread just for my noob questions. but to contribute to the topic at hand, tnt are bastards, and they couldn't do anything to stop abrosia if they wanted to. it's too humanlike when used properly!

honestly, the few times I've used Abrosia or any Ab'er for a MP, I always make sure I'm actually beside my computer so if I ever buy it, I can disable it right away to avoid said circumstance.

[talbs]

jonnykun, on 10 March 2010 - 09:17 PM, said:

thanks guys for the advice. my only concern is running abrosia with the scheduler on, rsing a rare potion while i'm gone, and the prog will continue rsing for me regardless of my new rs'd potion. how would you handle this situation

Edit: sorry to go off topic here haha i didn't want to make a new thread just for my noob questions. but to contribute to the topic at hand, tnt are bastards, and they couldn't do anything to stop abrosia if they wanted to. it's too humanlike when used properly!

just a risk you have to take i guess, not sure what the odds of that would be though, ie grabbing a potion daily while you are away

[MasterJunpei]

as to how easy it is to find search for Neopets programs on google and its the second result

[Elindoril]

MasterJunpei, on 10 March 2010 - 10:00 PM, said:

as to how easy it is to find search for Neopets programs on google and its the second result

Hey yeah, we are second.

Awesome.

[Warriors]

jonnykun, on 10 March 2010 - 09:17 PM, said:

thanks guys for the advice. my only concern is running abrosia with the scheduler on, rsing a rare potion while i'm gone, and the prog will continue rsing for me regardless of my new rs'd potion. how would you handle this situation

Edit: sorry to go off topic here haha i didn't want to make a new thread just for my noob questions. but to contribute to the topic at hand, tnt are bastards, and they couldn't do anything to stop abrosia if they wanted to. it's too humanlike when used properly!

no problem..as long as it gets answered...better to hijack this thread with the same on topic question than making another.

[kbbbb]

Warriors, on 10 March 2010 - 08:03 PM, said:

This site seems to be an easy find yet how are the programs still effective?

From what I gather, there is no use of TNT code or script, so there is no copyright violation. Although they use a single image in the programs, taking that out if there was any threat of anything wouldn't be that difficult.

The T&C's of TNT are

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You agree that if you disseminate, design or assist in the design of a third party program that changes the game play on Neopets, you will pay Neopets, Inc. liquidated damages in the sum of Fifty Thousand Dollars for each such program as liquidated damages. You agree that if you use such a program on the neopets.com website, you will pay Neopets, Inc. liquidated damages in the sum of Five Hundred Dollars for each time you use a program.

I said here

Quote

...these sort of claims against people are unlawful. ...The amount of damages claimed by TNT seems so extravagant, unless someone was using programs and making a mint out of it (?) then I don't see how a court could justify applying such penalty.

and paraphrasing the other thing, liquidated damage is an estimate on how much a violation of the contract between two parties would cost the innocent party.

TNT would have a hard time proving 50k, methinks...the places that have programs are quite underground and non-commercial...so they haven't bothered to chase people

They'd have to re-design their whole site. And the small % who use progz probably outweight bothering.

[Warriors]

kbbbb, on 10 March 2010 - 10:48 PM, said:

From what I gather, there is no use of TNT code or script, so there is no copyright violation. Although they use a single image in the programs, taking that out if there was any threat of anything wouldn't be that difficult.

The T&C's of TNT are



I said here



and paraphrasing the other thing, liquidated damage is an estimate on how much a violation of the contract between two parties would cost the innocent party.

TNT would have a hard time proving 50k, methinks...the places that have programs are quite underground and non-commercial...so they haven't bothered to chase people

They'd have to re-design their whole site. And the small % who use progz probably outweight bothering.

Yea I understand that they probably will never charge anyone with creating the program...my question was with regard to being frozen..Maybe if they were to get the program that from the script or commands it would be easy to disseminated that it is an AB program and freeze the account..

[jcrboy]

Elindoril, on 10 March 2010 - 10:06 PM, said:

Hey yeah, we are second.

Awesome.

This is pleasing to me.

[MasterJunpei]

Warriors, on 10 March 2010 - 10:50 PM, said:

Yea I understand that they probably will never charge anyone with creating the program...my question was with regard to being frozen..Maybe if they were to get the program that from the script or commands it would be easy to disseminated that it is an AB program and freeze the account..

pretty sure it would be a violation of copyright rules to decompile any programs here. Not even sure that is possible actually. (the decompiling not the violation)