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#151 redlion

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 11:38 PM

Don't give me all this emotional blackmail bullshit. You can still appreicate genius or other forms of uniqueness in different forms. I look at Al-Queda's enthuisaism and dedication as something that is clearly interesting and almost awe-worthy. If you apply those techniques and emotions to different contexts, you'll find a new view on life.

+1 For that. I don't like Hitler, but I can admit he was intelligent. Emotion runs high over the Holocaust, but people forget that Israel has been doing the same thing for 60 years. And Iran has been doing the same for 40 years. Jews aren't even allowed in Saudi Arabia.

Injustice exists on many fronts. Genius works for many masters. Einstein was Jewish, German, and American by the end. His people were killed, killing, and killing the killers.

I think Hitler was just following the Hebrew philosophy. I've never read the Torah but if you look at the old testament of the bible the Hebrews were supposedly repeatedly punished by God for NOT completely exterminating the cultures around them.

The world is fucked up. Its not an Israel thing or a Muslim thing or a Nazi thing. Until the last 80 years war was war and people got fucked up bad. In world war one no one gave a damn if a bomb hit a church as opposed to a military installation. It was war, the goal was to kill the enemy and its people. If anything the scrutiny military operations are put under should give us some hope that humanity is at least trying to become more civilized-or maybe we are just more manipulative in terms of hiding what is going on. There is a southpark episode that sums that up pretty well. "If we let the people protest we can do whatever we want." is the main point.

To anyone on that takes this personally the fact is if I had grown up on any side of these cultures in places that were worn torn I would be trying to blow up everyone I could. I consider myself lucky to not have been born into those worlds.

If I was born in Nazi Germany I would probably have been a Nazi. If I was born in Palestine I would probably be attacking Israel. If I was born in Israel I would be setting up settlements.

In terms of genius I think Hitler was a smart, manipulative man that was in the right place at the right time. 15 years ago the tea party movement would have been a joke. The fact that people are so fed up with both sides of the U.S government has lent huge support to the movement. Germany was primed for a charismatic person to take power. It just happened to be a psychopath that was able to pull it off.

I think the bolded statement is a slight mis-attribution. God commanded the Hebrews to treat thy neighbor as thyself. The promised land was filled with other semitic cultures, many of which were more numerous and powerful than 'God's chosen people'. When the Hebrews were in Egypt, they did not fight the Egyptians, they escaped and found a land to the north, with highlands and fertile plains. Unfortunately the Canaanites already lived there.

You're right of course, war is war. No one complained in the 1940s when we used flamethrowers to clear out Japanese military fortifications. That is a horrible, horrible death. But they inflicted worse on the civilians of China and SE Asia, so they got karma'd.

Speculating about what you would've been like in 1940s Germany is only useful in that it shows something about your character. Not that I could tell you what that is, for that you'd have to explicate.

I think you're slightly misinformed about the Tea Partyers if you think they're not a joke. There is no one that actually believes that shit except the last few viewers Fox News can keep. They are just paleoconservatives trying to start a grassroots movement through their propaganda wing, AKA Glen Beck. The Constitution is a living document. We can't live in 1780 forever. GDamn.

Germany was primed primarily to industrialize. They needed a single leader to effectively organize the entire country. To right, he got his industry. He just geared it all towards war matériel to kill the perceived Jewish threat.

#152 bobsauce

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 04:46 PM

I think you're slightly misinformed about the Tea Partyers if you think they're not a joke. There is no one that actually believes that shit except the last few viewers Fox News can keep. They are just paleoconservatives trying to start a grassroots movement through their propaganda wing, AKA Glen Beck. The Constitution is a living document. We can't live in 1780 forever. GDamn.


While I personally find them to be a joke I work in D.C and D.C was busier with Tea Partyers seeing Glen Beck than it was for Obama's election. While I"m sure less price gouging and security had something to do with it I was still quite amazed to see so many excited out of their minds back woods folks. I ended up on an unpublished e-mail list because of some crazy jeweler I met at my job that was sending me discounted gems that he was having trouble using and litterally watched this movement develop out of "hey guys I got this idea for a tea party movement" into what it is now. I simply mean to say it seems to be right place right time and wouldn't have gotten off the ground 5-10 years ago.

#153 Roxi

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 09:41 PM

Hitler wasn't a genius, he was just crazy. Everyone knows the crazy people are the ones with the brilliant ideas. Any who, I found it highly entertaining to learn today that Hitler was from Jewish decent. Isn't that just f-ed up?


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