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#26 Noitidart

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:21 PM

I thought the 6 icon species abilities is not level dependent but like random. Is it really level dependent? That would be awesome if a higher level did consistently 6 icons!

#27 Acheron

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:25 PM

Yup, I have seen from a few sources that it is level dependent. My pet is lvl 40~50 now and it does only 4icons.

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:26 PM

I thought the 6 icon species abilities is not level dependent but like random. Is it really level dependent? That would be awesome if a higher level did consistently 6 icons!


Yeah it starts out at 4 icons, once you pass the level requirement for each pet it does more. Most species attack(that are able to do 6 icons) hit 6 icons after level 25 or so.

Example:
Lupe Breath, Available at level 20

Attack: Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image ++ Posted Image +++ Posted Image




4 icons at 20, 5 icons at 22, 6 icons at 25




Yup, I have seen from a few sources that it is level dependent. My pet is lvl 40~50 now and it does only 4icons.


Not all species attack can do 6 max.

#29 Acheron

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:28 PM

Yeah it starts out at 4 icons, once you pass the level requirement for each pet it does more. Most species attack(that are able to do 6 icons) hit 6 icons after level 25 or so.

Example:
Lupe Breath, Available at level 20

Attack: Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image ++ Posted Image +++ Posted Image




4 icons at 20, 5 icons at 22, 6 icons at 25






Not all species attack can do 6 max.


Okay, that is weird. Mine is a cybunny and idb listed a six icon attack.

Edit: Yup, just tested it. It deals 5 icons.

Edited by Olion, 17 December 2010 - 11:33 PM.


#30 Noitidart

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:46 PM

Oh NO WAY!! That is SOO useful! No guide out there explains that. Thanks scot and olion for bringing that up. That is just so helpful!

What level is your cybunny olion?

#31 Acheron

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:49 PM

Um, not sure if it's safe to post here, I'll pm you the level.

I think six icons should be the level pets get berserk.

#32 Noitidart

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:57 PM

Oh i see. If that's true then you get berserk at level 50 right?

It would be nice if you could also add the best attack's of those species.
That's because some species can look great, but you end up loosing advantage with their species abilities.

Ziz man this is another very informative post. I'll try to get a guide on here for species attacks.

#33 Acheron

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:58 PM

Yup, maybe someone with a pet at exactly level 50 would like to test that out.

I refer to this page: http://idb.finalhit.org/species

Species abilities is useful in the sense that you won't have to take the 'recoil' damage of let's say, selecting berserk.

#34 Noitidart

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:59 PM

Species abilities is just like using cautious attack right? So 1x multipler plus the icons.

#35 Acheron

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:02 AM

Yup, just extra icons of damage.

I'm free to list all the pets that have a 6 icons attack.

I'm only worried that the level requirement may be different for all pets since Scot cited the lupe as doing 6 icons at lvl 25.

#36 Noitidart

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:04 AM

That would be awesome olion i was hoping to actually do a list like mine in the topic above but list each ability rather just the 6 icon attack.If you can that would be awesome otherwise I'll get around to it sometime.

#37 Acheron

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:34 AM

Um, most of the other abilities does nothing or deal lesser icons. (usually range from 2-4)

Anyway, I have already collected the pets that can do six icons in a ms word file. I can't upload it to this forum though due to some restriction I think.

Maybe I can email you the file at your address stated in your profile page.

An interesting fact that idb has,

Elephante Bump
, Available at level 1 Attack: Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image + Posted Image ++ Posted Image +++ + Posted Image

Comments: Level 1-39: 3-4 icons<BR>
Level 40-49: 4-5 icons<BR>
Level 50+: 4-6 icons



#38 Noitidart

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:36 AM

Can you copy paste from word?
It needs to be in bbcode format to work on the forum.
That looks so great! How did you figure out the levels?

#39 Acheron

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:42 AM

I can copy and paste from word but the icons are images and I will have to upload every single image I think.

The levels are from idb. Link: http://idb.finalhit.org/species/10

I tested with my pet and a pet from a friend account. We are both in the level range and deal a consistent five icons. So the range might only be applicable at the start of the next boost. E.g. Lvl 40-43 does 4-5 but 43> does 5.


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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:48 AM

Ohh i see where you got the levels from. So this elephante ability doesnt always do 6 at higher levels but has chance to do 4-6. But where it is not noted then it does the max icons at the higher levels?

#41 Acheron

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:57 AM

Yup, I have yet to deal four icons with my pet yet. I'll update this thread if I do.

I will also just send the file to you. I have no idea how to efficiently upload 40 plus pets x 6 icons.

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 01:00 AM

Have you tried a different pet? I wish I can help but all I can tell you is that once I hit 6 icons, I always got 6 after that, nothing less.

#43 Acheron

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 01:48 AM

Yup, I have tried with a similar level shoyru and it did five icons also.

I think we can assume

Lvl 1-39 : 4 icons
Lvl 40-49 5 icons
Lvl 50 and above: 6 icons

Until someone prove it wrong.

#44 Chobo

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 11:40 PM

Yup, I have tried with a similar level shoyru and it did five icons also.

I think we can assume

Lvl 1-39 : 4 icons
Lvl 40-49 5 icons
Lvl 50 and above: 6 icons

Until someone prove it wrong.


This isn't the case for all pets. I battle frequently for a pteri and i sitll random 4, 5 or 6 icons and I'm level 290+ . Some pets' species attacks do have level ranges, but we really cant assume your rule for all of them.
I saw a similar thing on resistances/weaknesses on idb a long time ago, someone put together a chart and also listed the most commonly used weapons in 2p to see how they stack up.
Top choices for resistances you see in the 2p league arena are: pteris (40% air against pcc/suap/gsword, etc) scorchios (air vs suap/pcc/gsword, earth vs gow/peas/fss/gbomb/istaff, fire vs gbomb/gow/pkiln), maybe some of the water defense like nimmos as we see a rise in kbt,
kaus arent that great because the resistance is spread over too much so you cant focus your defensive weapons on a few icons

#45 Noitidart

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 11:52 PM

Ok thanks for that information. Acheron wrong he was just hypothesizing and we see there is an exception to that rule. This is great work all of you!

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:20 PM

*delete this post please -.-*


Edited by Ziz, 13 January 2011 - 10:21 PM.


#47 Noitidart

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:13 PM

Its ok Ziz don't worry, what was your post about, I'm very curious about any posts in this topic. :p

#48 Ziz

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:24 PM

Its ok Ziz don't worry, what was your post about, I'm very curious about any posts in this topic. :p


I was replying to acheron (the last post of the first page), but after I realised I pasted late.


I hope this could add something useful to the topic ^^
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#49 Ziz

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 10:26 AM

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#50 Ziz

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:18 PM

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