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#1 Vegas

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:23 PM

Can't seem to get gaming computer to boot new drive in Sata. Dunno if just me not configuring it right or a mobo problem.

Drive -WD Black 640gb
http://www.newegg.co...aviar black 640
Mobo-Gigabyte GA-MA78LM-S2H
http://www.newegg.co...k=GA-MA78LM-S2H

Bios was set to boot drives as Natural IDE and os installed on the drive while it was in IDE interface. Installed programs, used computer, ran games etc etc without a problem. Realized it, ran BIOS and changed Sata drives to AHCI. Couldn't boot os, naturally. No problem for me to fresh install, still a new comp.

Booted os cd and tried to install os, but it couldn't detect any drives. Maybe cuz the drive was previously in IDE mode. Confused on what to do next. So I made BIOS run sata in natural IDE and deleted partion through os cd boot. Didn't install os though. Thought, problem solved, OEM drives come unpartioned anyways right? So changed Sata to AHCI again and tried to run os install. Once again, could not detect drives and blue screened. Confused again.

Took drive unpartioned drive, made it a slave in old dell computer, ran BIOS to make it run in SATA. After booting and everest diagnostics, saw that my dell hdd was SATA while the new drive was still in IDE. Went start->my computer->manage and ran disk management. Formatted, deleted partion, created partion etc etc. HDD was recognized by os and working but still, in IDE mode.

How to make this drive run in SATA interface?? I want to make it my primary drive for my new rig but I can't seem to fresh install an os on it while SATA is in AHCI in bios. Have ran chkdsk and hdd diagnostics programs and it is 100% fine and working. It worked too, when I was running my os with sata set to natural ide. Can something possibly be wrong with the mobo Sata controllers or something? The mobo is sata compatible and I had personally plugged in the hdd to sata ports.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 05:50 AM

Windows cannot run setup in AHCI mode. I have no ideal why they have never fixed it, but that has existed for over a decade now. Run it in IDE, after install is complete, switch to AHCI and then it should work. If it fails to boot, boot into safe mode first so it can install the drivers.

Even if the OS reports IDE mode, if the bios says AHCI, it is AHCI.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 04:11 PM

Windows cannot run setup in AHCI mode. I have no ideal why they have never fixed it, but that has existed for over a decade now. Run it in IDE, after install is complete, switch to AHCI and then it should work. If it fails to boot, boot into safe mode first so it can install the drivers.

Even if the OS reports IDE mode, if the bios says AHCI, it is AHCI.


thanks, was becoming a real head scratcher.

even windows 7? i got an install copy but it is cracked but has worked before.

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Ughhh maybe a little more help? Can't boot into safe boot when AHCI is enabled. Booted with native ide, been recommended to find reg key msahci. No luck, seems to be missing.

Figured there was no sata driver. Went to the mobo site. http://www.gigabyte....373&dl=1#driver

Browsing the windows xp drivers, only Sata drivers are for SATA RAID, not sure if its the one I want. I see the windows 7 has drivers called AMD SATA AHCI Driver. Was gonna install win7 but on boot, crack cd wasn't being read.

I have a legit xp key and 2 types of installers. The manual installer and the faster, self configuring SP3 cracked one. Os currently installed is the cracked one for time management purposes. Could this be the reason I can't seem to find the driver? Does a legit windows install usually install SATA drivers?

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 09:50 PM

thanks, was becoming a real head scratcher.

even windows 7? i got an install copy but it is cracked but has worked before.

UPDATE
Ughhh maybe a little more help? Can't boot into safe boot when AHCI is enabled. Booted with native ide, been recommended to find reg key msahci. No luck, seems to be missing.

Figured there was no sata driver. Went to the mobo site. http://www.gigabyte....373&dl=1#driver

Browsing the windows xp drivers, only Sata drivers are for SATA RAID, not sure if its the one I want. I see the windows 7 has drivers called AMD SATA AHCI Driver. Was gonna install win7 but on boot, crack cd wasn't being read.

I have a legit xp key and 2 types of installers. The manual installer and the faster, self configuring SP3 cracked one. Os currently installed is the cracked one for time management purposes. Could this be the reason I can't seem to find the driver? Does a legit windows install usually install SATA drivers?



Did you try Safe Mode like I instructed?

Also. Run the attached registry file, and turn off your computer, enable ahci in bios and turn it back on. should work.
Attached File  ahci.zip   513bytes   1 downloads

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 03:41 AM

Did you try Safe Mode like I instructed?

Also. Run the attached registry file, and turn off your computer, enable ahci in bios and turn it back on. should work.
Attached File  ahci.zip   513bytes   1 downloads


yeah

ughh i thought that would do it but on boot i get a black screen saying system32\DRIVERS\msahci.sys is either missing or corrupt.

ditched the cracked xp and tried the legit xp setup with legit key and same thing. none of the mobo driver packages seemed to install it either. am just gonna try to reburn a cracked windows 7 since gigabyte apparently has a sata driver for win 7 and not xp:S

unless uploading the file might work. dunno if it needs other files to work properly though.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 04:13 AM

Is your hard drive bigger then 2tb?

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 05:00 AM

Is your hard drive bigger then 2tb?


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is it normally supposed to be this difficult? or is there possibly something wrong with the install cds/hardware?

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 06:04 PM

No. I installed Windows 7 and then switched to AHCI without and troubles. :(. There must be something wrong with your computer.

If your Hard Drive is not larger then 2gb, leave it at Native IDE. AHCI will not get you any performance boosts.


Still never got an answer on if you used Safe mode.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 06:52 PM

No. I installed Windows 7 and then switched to AHCI without and troubles. :(. There must be something wrong with your computer.

If your Hard Drive is not larger then 2gb, leave it at Native IDE. AHCI will not get you any performance boosts.


Still never got an answer on if you used Safe mode.


yeah tried safe mode but didn't boot either.

do you think the interface being ide could cause problems such as installing? the main reason I wanted to change it is because out of all the programs ive installed, starcraft 2 doesn't seem to want to install lol. the disc nor the online download both don't work. i had not a single problem installing it on the old dell but it can't run it so i just had to transfer all the installed files from comp to comp. the recent patch gave similar errors and without it I can't play it so i've concluded I should figure out what is going wrong with the install.

the errors say its either a corrupt hdd, damaged disc or messed up opticals. same results from disc and online install eliminate the last two. ive ran multiple diagnostics on two drives-an older spare 160gb and the newer 640gb which come all good. i can play it perfectly fine, just something prevents me from installing. clean os installs so I have all privileges. haven't received a response from blizz and i've googled people with similar errors but with no straight up fix.

the install doesn't even progress to the 1% screen. after clicking where to install, i immediately get the errors.

any drivers I might've missed installing
-audio
-chipset
-video display
-ethernet
-opticals

could it be related to the mobo by any chance? everything is fine with the mobo except with audio. it doesn't seem to automatically initiate when I boot. after booting, I have to unplug/replug the jack and then it works.

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 10:36 PM

Do you get an error message when trying to install?

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 12:20 PM

Do you get an error message when trying to install?


Pretty much. Different file names but all relate to not being able to read them. I gave up on the whole sata interface thing and just ran sc2 installer on old comp, installed the files to 2nd drive, then moved 2nd drive to game computer.

If I get problems patching again, will just move drive back, patch with old computer then move drive again.

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:35 PM

Have you ran a memory test?

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:27 PM

Have you ran a memory test?


Yeah lol. Only hardware issues I get is with the sound thing on the mobo. Everything else seems to be good.

Why, could a memory problem prevent proper installs? I got 4 GB. Also just installed BFBC2 and NFS Carbon so I unno why I only have a problem with sc2.


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