What do you guys think? Does anyone here even have the iPhone 4?
Would you buy it?
Keep in mind, not everyone is with shitty at&t. I'm Canadian, and I'm planning on sticking with rogers or bell.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:09 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:36 AM
Edited by WakaWaka, 30 August 2010 - 07:40 AM.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:40 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:20 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:33 AM
Edited by Faval, 30 August 2010 - 08:34 AM.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:51 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:11 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:31 AM
I have the iPhone 4 and I love it. And you get a free case that corrects the reception issue, and thats any free iphone 4 case not necessarily their tacky "bumpers", I got a full bodied speck case.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:40 AM
Well regarding the death grip issue, they gave a free case to address that. Regarding some flaws such as no flash, you can jailbreak the phone(but it voids the warranty) to get flash supported onto it. New iOS has multitasking, just not that many apps that have multitasking yet but again, jailbreakers have already had multitasking for quite a while now, I have it on my 2nd gen iTouch.
Nothing wrong with an iPhone 4 if you want one but there are other options, and a lot of iphone clones. I'd say if you like having lots of apps, the only thing that rivals the custom apps is droid and those come in many shapes and flavors...and OS versions. The only issue with the droid OS is that Oracle wants part of the pie with their lawsuit.
you wont need those if they actually shipped out and sold a functional product.
just tells you how bad they are milking you haha.
Case in point(weak pun i know), wait til they fix this reception issue with another release and buy it then.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:48 AM
but with pretty much everything a new model of something is bound to have problems
Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:50 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:55 AM
While what you said is true, the basic problem is the reception.
And the product they are trying to sell you is an iPHONE..
at least make sure the phone part is working properly without some case to "fix" the error.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:10 AM
True and i would pick the android over the iphone anyways:P my friend has that google phone(can remember the name ) and it was pretty kickass
Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:10 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:26 AM
Google phone..you mean the nexus one?
I think that's what it was called..It was just released early this year in canada.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:35 AM
Jailbreaking only voids the warranty if you are a dumbass and send it in Jailbroken
And I would suggest the 3gs like said before the iphone 4 is first of its model so its gonna have problems but the 3gs is the fixed (i want to say perfected but thats over the top) version of the iphone 3g
but with pretty much everything a new model of something is bound to have problems
I'm thinking about getting rid of my iphone and getting a crackberry.
Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:27 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:49 AM
Posted 30 August 2010 - 03:37 PM
Posted 31 August 2010 - 05:07 PM
I think thats the best non-bullshit review i've ever read on the iphone.alright... I got the Iphone 4 when it came out... and I'll give you my experiences with it and hopefully it will offer you some insight into your situation.
1) Firstly I'd like to address this "reception" issue. I personally have NEVER had a dropped call from the so called death grip. I have had reduced reception depending on where my hand is... but never lost it completely.. and if you are right handed, from what I hear, it doesn't really effect you. The TRUE flaw with the phone is the fucked up proximity sensor. I find myself CONSTANTLY accidentally muting myself, putting the speaker phone on, or using the keypaad... with my FACE... VERY annoying. However, using the headphones you get with it (they have a mic built into them) you can talk and browse the web/use apps simultaneously without any problems. I'd also like to add that IOS 4.0.2 is supposed to have fix that proximity sensor issue... so it's not a permanent problem.
Now that I've gone over all the flaws I have found in owning an iphone 4 for a couple of months... I absolutely love this phone. It is overall superior to every other phone I've used or seen... I didn't have access to a computer for the past month or two and it has acted as everything I needed. Truly, a computer lite to carry around in your pocket.
The processor is ridiculously fast and with 256MB RAM in a PHONE...it's impressive. I recently tested it vs. my brothers Iphone 3GS and and Iphone 3G, and it is MUCH faster than both. Not only do I have the ability to multitask but each app opens nearly instantly without any lag. The 5.5MP camera takes surprisingly high quality images (outdoors. indoors it takes really good pics for a phone... but compared to a real camera... the lighting seems off). I recently took it down to the coast with me about a month ago and every image is beautiful.
The front face camera is kind of a cool concept anyways. I don't use the facetime function, personally... so it's a nice concept... but that's about it. I have, however, used the front facing camera to use my phone as a "mirror" if you will. Check my hair/teeth, look behind me, etc. it also makes taking photos of yourself a lot easier and it takes good pictures indoors. (never tried using it outdoors)
Now the "retina display", this term is inherently misleading because the amount of pixels your eye can see is highly dependent upon how far away the screen is from you. Tests were done but I can't think of the precise figures... but essentially at the standard 6 inches, it is not higher resolution than the human eye. at something like 3 feet it was... but you don't use your phone 3 feet in front of you. Despite this misleading term, the display is MUCH better than the previous Iphones when you lay them next to each other... and I don't think I've personally come across a phone with a better resolution.
oh! While we are on this subject, the back camera is AMAZING when it comes to recording videos. Your phone will record in 720p definition. Using the back camera as a recorder indoors is still fucking stupidly clear video. It rivals my actual digital camcorder in that department.
I recently broke my iphone 4 (or essentially wiped it of it's firmware and couldn't get any computer to recognize it, therefore) and Apple sent me a new one by FedEx overnight. That kind of a warranty is very reassuring to have. ( I want to make it clear that I definitely fucked the phone up... it wasn't a flaw in the phone) But while my phone was MIA, I realized all the cool things I use my phone for that I didn't have available to me in my pocket at all times.Because the Iphone 4 has a flash for it's back camera, you can turn the flash on by itself and use it as a high-powered flashlight.This has come in very handy when I dropped something in the dark, behind something, and for finding the key slot on a door late at night.
- Phone
- Camera
- Camcorder
- Scanner
- Ipod
- Radio
- Weather
- News
Instant push notifications for:- Skype
- MSN Messenger
- Major news events
Also missed- Stocks
- Calculator
- Conversion calculator
- Calender with events
- a notepad
- Gaming
- Recipe Books
- Extended Periodic Table
- About 100 classic books
- Drink Mixing Guide
- Tracking updates on all my packages
- THE INTERNET
- a FLASHLIGHT
I'd like to also add I have ~60 apps and only paid for one of them (I Am T-Pain, for fun because I like to use auto-tune on shit/)
Now for some counter arguments to what has been said above. Yes, apple does not support flash. Apple continued to push it's release date attempting to get a flash that was prepared for mobile phones. The results were very buggy so apple decided to scrape it and use HTML5 which is, IMO, the future of these kind of things. HTML5 requires much lower process speed and is more universally accepted... so streaming videos etc stream flawlessly on an iphone instead of sputtering or being generally buggy. Good riddance to flash. Also, here's an interesting number from a recent study. Android users, on average, use 34% more data. Surely they don't simply use more media material on their phones... it comes down to the way the data is processed and the amount of it required to be broadcast over your cellular network.
Now for the infamous App store debate. I have found everything I need for free without jailbreaking my phone through the app store. Is the App store a pain in every developers ass? Yes. Everything has to meet "regulation" in order to be approved. The benefit of the App Store vs. open source apps is still greater, though. Why would you as a developer attempt to make an app for additional revenue for a droid phone when you know it's just going to be side-loaded? (pirated) Not to mention because of the vast success of iAds, many app developers for the iPhone are not charging for their software and instead adding an unobtrusive line ad (like google ads up top of this page, but smaller). I remember the first WEEK of the iPhone's release... the developer who came out with the flashlight app (though you don't need it, you can turn the flash on from your camera mode) brought in $1400 in ad revenue the first DAY of the apps release. In a society where revenue is key to cutting edge development, I project that android will be forced to close off this piracy scandal... as good apps will continue to simply disappear or charge ridiculous fees for similar applications.
The other real problem with the free pirated apps of droid... The code is not inspected. It wouldn't be hard at all for someone to put malicious code in your app... perhaps even collect information about you. Sell your contact info to ad companies to make up for the lost revenue that iAds is bringing other developers.
I think I about covered everything... though it got super long winded and I likely missed some stuff. I hope that has helped give you a better opinion of the iPhone 4 from someone who actually owns one and compared it side by side with the other iPhone models and have had quite a few phones myself. ultimately, if you are in the market looking for a smart phone and have the cash to spend... I'd highly recommend the iPhone. If you can't afford it, though... there are other alternatives.
OH YEAH! Battery life! That's what I neglected. Okay, my last phone was just a temporary nokia I bought for 20 bucks at walmart. I talked all the time and literally charged it once every 3 days... a week if I didn't use it heavily. So, the iPhone 4 was a bit of adjustment for me... because my old phone didn't even have a camera much less more than the space to hold more than 500 texts at a time. () it used very little battery. The iPhone, because of it's large screen and fast processor, uses battery. However, the iPhone 4 actually has a 44% increase in battery life compared to the 3GS and prior models. You can also limit the amount of battery you use by using auto-brightness and limiting the amount of GPS time you use (that's a real battery killer) or even setting it to go to black after not touching it for a minute or two. (you still go right back to where you were) I use my phone HEAVILY... and I charge it once a day. When I used it for internet/a computer too... I sometimes would have to charge it around 9PM... but I was on the internet constantly. But I don't think my phone has EVER died because it ran out of battery before I made it home at the end of the day.
Anyways, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
P.S. I think that was the longest post I've ever made.
Posted 31 August 2010 - 05:19 PM
Posted 31 August 2010 - 10:10 PM
Posted 31 August 2010 - 10:35 PM
wow! that like a pro reviewalright... I got the Iphone 4 when it came out... and I'll give you my experiences with it and hopefully it will offer you some insight into your situation.
1) Firstly I'd like to address this "reception" issue. I personally have NEVER had a dropped call from the so called death grip. I have had reduced reception depending on where my hand is... but never lost it completely.. and if you are right handed, from what I hear, it doesn't really effect you. The TRUE flaw with the phone is the fucked up proximity sensor. I find myself CONSTANTLY accidentally muting myself, putting the speaker phone on, or using the keypaad... with my FACE... VERY annoying. However, using the headphones you get with it (they have a mic built into them) you can talk and browse the web/use apps simultaneously without any problems. I'd also like to add that IOS 4.0.2 is supposed to have fix that proximity sensor issue... so it's not a permanent problem.
Now that I've gone over all the flaws I have found in owning an iphone 4 for a couple of months... I absolutely love this phone. It is overall superior to every other phone I've used or seen... I didn't have access to a computer for the past month or two and it has acted as everything I needed. Truly, a computer lite to carry around in your pocket.
The processor is ridiculously fast and with 256MB RAM in a PHONE...it's impressive. I recently tested it vs. my brothers Iphone 3GS and and Iphone 3G, and it is MUCH faster than both. Not only do I have the ability to multitask but each app opens nearly instantly without any lag. The 5.5MP camera takes surprisingly high quality images (outdoors. indoors it takes really good pics for a phone... but compared to a real camera... the lighting seems off). I recently took it down to the coast with me about a month ago and every image is beautiful.
The front face camera is kind of a cool concept anyways. I don't use the facetime function, personally... so it's a nice concept... but that's about it. I have, however, used the front facing camera to use my phone as a "mirror" if you will. Check my hair/teeth, look behind me, etc. it also makes taking photos of yourself a lot easier and it takes good pictures indoors. (never tried using it outdoors)
Now the "retina display", this term is inherently misleading because the amount of pixels your eye can see is highly dependent upon how far away the screen is from you. Tests were done but I can't think of the precise figures... but essentially at the standard 6 inches, it is not higher resolution than the human eye. at something like 3 feet it was... but you don't use your phone 3 feet in front of you. Despite this misleading term, the display is MUCH better than the previous Iphones when you lay them next to each other... and I don't think I've personally come across a phone with a better resolution.
oh! While we are on this subject, the back camera is AMAZING when it comes to recording videos. Your phone will record in 720p definition. Using the back camera as a recorder indoors is still fucking stupidly clear video. It rivals my actual digital camcorder in that department.
I recently broke my iphone 4 (or essentially wiped it of it's firmware and couldn't get any computer to recognize it, therefore) and Apple sent me a new one by FedEx overnight. That kind of a warranty is very reassuring to have. ( I want to make it clear that I definitely fucked the phone up... it wasn't a flaw in the phone) But while my phone was MIA, I realized all the cool things I use my phone for that I didn't have available to me in my pocket at all times.Because the Iphone 4 has a flash for it's back camera, you can turn the flash on by itself and use it as a high-powered flashlight.This has come in very handy when I dropped something in the dark, behind something, and for finding the key slot on a door late at night.
- Phone
- Camera
- Camcorder
- Scanner
- Ipod
- Radio
- Weather
- News
Instant push notifications for:- Skype
- MSN Messenger
- Major news events
Also missed- Stocks
- Calculator
- Conversion calculator
- Calender with events
- a notepad
- Gaming
- Recipe Books
- Extended Periodic Table
- About 100 classic books
- Drink Mixing Guide
- Tracking updates on all my packages
- THE INTERNET
- a FLASHLIGHT
I'd like to also add I have ~60 apps and only paid for one of them (I Am T-Pain, for fun because I like to use auto-tune on shit/)
Now for some counter arguments to what has been said above. Yes, apple does not support flash. Apple continued to push it's release date attempting to get a flash that was prepared for mobile phones. The results were very buggy so apple decided to scrape it and use HTML5 which is, IMO, the future of these kind of things. HTML5 requires much lower process speed and is more universally accepted... so streaming videos etc stream flawlessly on an iphone instead of sputtering or being generally buggy. Good riddance to flash. Also, here's an interesting number from a recent study. Android users, on average, use 34% more data. Surely they don't simply use more media material on their phones... it comes down to the way the data is processed and the amount of it required to be broadcast over your cellular network.
Now for the infamous App store debate. I have found everything I need for free without jailbreaking my phone through the app store. Is the App store a pain in every developers ass? Yes. Everything has to meet "regulation" in order to be approved. The benefit of the App Store vs. open source apps is still greater, though. Why would you as a developer attempt to make an app for additional revenue for a droid phone when you know it's just going to be side-loaded? (pirated) Not to mention because of the vast success of iAds, many app developers for the iPhone are not charging for their software and instead adding an unobtrusive line ad (like google ads up top of this page, but smaller). I remember the first WEEK of the iPhone's release... the developer who came out with the flashlight app (though you don't need it, you can turn the flash on from your camera mode) brought in $1400 in ad revenue the first DAY of the apps release. In a society where revenue is key to cutting edge development, I project that android will be forced to close off this piracy scandal... as good apps will continue to simply disappear or charge ridiculous fees for similar applications.
The other real problem with the free pirated apps of droid... The code is not inspected. It wouldn't be hard at all for someone to put malicious code in your app... perhaps even collect information about you. Sell your contact info to ad companies to make up for the lost revenue that iAds is bringing other developers.
I think I about covered everything... though it got super long winded and I likely missed some stuff. I hope that has helped give you a better opinion of the iPhone 4 from someone who actually owns one and compared it side by side with the other iPhone models and have had quite a few phones myself. ultimately, if you are in the market looking for a smart phone and have the cash to spend... I'd highly recommend the iPhone. If you can't afford it, though... there are other alternatives.
OH YEAH! Battery life! That's what I neglected. Okay, my last phone was just a temporary nokia I bought for 20 bucks at walmart. I talked all the time and literally charged it once every 3 days... a week if I didn't use it heavily. So, the iPhone 4 was a bit of adjustment for me... because my old phone didn't even have a camera much less more than the space to hold more than 500 texts at a time. () it used very little battery. The iPhone, because of it's large screen and fast processor, uses battery. However, the iPhone 4 actually has a 44% increase in battery life compared to the 3GS and prior models. You can also limit the amount of battery you use by using auto-brightness and limiting the amount of GPS time you use (that's a real battery killer) or even setting it to go to black after not touching it for a minute or two. (you still go right back to where you were) I use my phone HEAVILY... and I charge it once a day. When I used it for internet/a computer too... I sometimes would have to charge it around 9PM... but I was on the internet constantly. But I don't think my phone has EVER died because it ran out of battery before I made it home at the end of the day.
Anyways, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
P.S. I think that was the longest post I've ever made.
Posted 31 August 2010 - 11:13 PM
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