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[8143FF763271]

Just want to point out that you are both pro-choice.
So really what is this debate even about? It is completely off topic at this point.

You share the same stance on it, maybe not for the same reasons but regardless, you're fighting a losing battle right now.

I'm just proving a point... and it's that there's nothing scientific or democratic behind the pro-abortion stance.

Y'all should embrace the sole reason why we OK abortion: Unborn babies are really ugly so we don't give a shit about them. Just like we don't give a shit about roaches but give a shit about puppies. That's just how the cookie crumbles. We don't feel sympathy for them so we think it's ok to kill them/not define them as human beings/not give them rights/etc. It sounds horrible, but that's how the world is. Shit dies, and a lot of time that benefits us. It might make a nice meal, it might save our careers. It's about accepting that we give value to life and to people as we see fit, often based on pretty arbitrary shit.

This is absolute hilarity.
It's turned into a pissing contest xD

Which I won be like a lightyear.

[Frizzle]

I'm just proving a point... and it's that there's nothing scientific or democratic behind the pro-abortion stance.

Y'all should embrace the sole reason why we OK abortion: Unborn babies are really ugly so we don't give a shit about them. Just like we don't give a shit about roaches but give a shit about puppies. That's just how the cookie crumbles. We don't feel sympathy for them so we think it's ok to kill them/not define them as human beings/not give them rights/etc. It sounds horrible, but that's how the world is. Shit dies, and a lot of time that benefits us. It might make a nice meal, it might save our careers. It's about accepting that we give value to life and to people as we see fit, often based on pretty arbitrary shit.

Do you cry every time you ejaculate? It's the same thing right? Sperm need civil rights as well.

[8143FF763271]

Nobody won.

I think that anyone vaguely familiar with logic knows I won.

I don't mean to brag but if we were to submit this to consistency and coherence tests I did win this... by far. I was arguing from a logically consistent framework while the other side of the argument committed fallacy after fallacy and ended up in a tangled mess of contradictions.

Now, this is not to brag. I am just saying... my arguments are empirically verifiable.

[8143FF763271]

Do you cry every time you ejaculate? It's the same thing right? Sperm need civil rights as well.

I don't... because I don't feel bad for sperm.

Didn't I note this in the post you're replying to?

[8143FF763271]

Can I ask why you have cleavage? This is a serious question. It's been bothering me all day.

I was born a girl.

[8143FF763271]

Why does that make you sad?
Boobs are fantastic

Thanks for answering.

just kidding
it's just my amazing vegeta line.

[8143FF763271]

That explains your whining.



Im inclined to disagree with your logic here.

I'm afraid disagreeing with logic is up there with saying that 2 and 2 does not equal 4. Formal logic is infallible, a system of prepositions and their imminent conclusions that cannot be broken (if it could, it would be illogical). Therefore, until you can prove that anything I've said is illogical, your disagreement is superfluous information.

Vegeta is a fictional character.

That just makes it all the more epic.

[Mishatu]

I'm afraid disagreeing with logic is up there with saying that 2 and 2 does not equal 4. Formal logic is infallible, a system of prepositions and their imminent conclusions that cannot be broken (if it could, it would be illogical). Therefore, until you can prove that anything I've said is illogical, your disagreement is superfluous information.

But 2 + 2 = fish and 7+7= triangle...

[8143FF763271]

I submit all of my convictions to formal validity, consistency, and reliability tests so I am, logically speaking, always right.

[Mishelle]

If the unborn aren't technically human beings, why did the Unborn Victims of Violence Act (2004) come about?

http://www.nrlc.org/Unborn_Victims/

And if you check google, there are several instances where killing a pregnant woman counts as a double homicide.

I don't agree with it but i'm not going to lobby in every state to get it overturned. I feel like these laws were enacted for purely emotional reasons and they only count in certain states. In others its only considered a double homicide if the child took a breath. Outside of the womb.

Just want to point out that you are both pro-choice.
So really what is this debate even about? It is completely off topic at this point.

You share the same stance on it, maybe not for the same reasons but regardless, you're fighting a losing battle right now.

All I was trying to say is abortion isn't murder they're the ones who brought up killing babies and Black people.

[8143FF763271]

Your logic is flawed and the only 'proof' you have to ground anything is by linking to a site that anyone can edit.

Actually told the person that I linked wikipedia to to verify its sources if they felt like it. I gave the wikipedia link because it summarized all available information on the argument and gave a more balanced overview than any particular article for it or against it.

[8143FF763271]

You can google anything nowadays and find what you need to 'validate' your opinions. Most people will share in your bias/opinion/flawed thought process, it doesn't automatically make you right.

If you paid attention to the wiki article I linked, you'd know that it is based on a statistical negative correlation between abortion rates and violent crime rates. This statistical correlation has been questioned by suggesting and eliminating possible variables along with retesting it across different data pools. So far, it has always yielded consistent results. These are statistical and empirically verifiable facts. Not opinions.

[8143FF763271]

I didn't pay any attention to your links, I have this thing called a job. I posted in my break time. Sorry to disappoint. Bahahah, who am I kidding. I don't give a fuck what you have to say.
Trololol~

I understand your disinterest and have nothing against it.

On a personal note, however, I'd like to recommend you not to post on other's opinions when you haven't been made privy to them. It will prevent you from being seen as a moron in the future, albeit little can be done about it in the present.

Edited by kami12, 14 August 2012 - 02:14 PM.

[8143FF763271]

So says the guy who argued with another person all afternoon about something they both agree on, just being finicky with the smaller terms

It's hardly me that looks like a moron here, but you can be certain you wont be around for long with the BS attitude you have with the community here. Just a heads up

60 posts and you've proven yourself to be on par with Coltom and Valentine

We had very different rationale behind our stances that were worthy of debate. You wouldn't know, as you obviously didn't read. It isn't preventing you, however, from commenting on it. Perhaps, people would be right as often as I am if they limited themselves to commenting on things they understand.

Am I being threatened by an "influential" member of the community for sincerely expressing that she looks bad when she bombards a serious debate with unfounded claims and "brony" pictures? I don't think I will lament a ban if that's the kind of blatantly infantile behaviour you have to turn a blind eye to around here.

[8143FF763271]

I love how you say 'infantile behavior' yet aren't you on a site that is dedicated to a children's game?

I am sorry that you feel that being in a neopets related site means we should all act like children. I'll keep it in mind next time and assume my role.

[Sweeney]

You both look stupid.

[Nymh]

I think kami is way too srs.

Yes, frankly, this IS the kind of "infantile" behavior that you will have to overlook here, and indeed on ANY forum, if you've ever been to one. This isn't even the worst of it, not even close. If you can't stand someone disagreeing with you then you won't last long here.

Calling each other morons doesn't really advance the debate much, just FYI.

Kiwi, don't even threaten to leave. I'd chase you down.