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bobsauce

Member Since 18 Aug 2010
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#1338022 Couple questions

Posted by bobsauce on 09 September 2010 - 05:07 PM

Technically it can be as short as an hour and as long as 48 hours. Mine are typically 12 hours for short restocking times and 18 hours if I get to spend more than 4 hours restocking.&nbsp; P.s The 18 hours is just a general observation about my account, not a rule of thumb.<br>


#1336699 Check out this vid!

Posted by bobsauce on 06 September 2010 - 05:03 PM

pretty cool, hope he wins :)


#1336487 i do drugs

Posted by bobsauce on 05 September 2010 - 10:53 PM

:o




#1336014 [Guide]Multi Account - Anonymity beyond proxy -hide info a proxy does not.

Posted by bobsauce on 04 September 2010 - 01:01 PM

If you're paranoid or love your main account, even using a proxy, its a good idea to know some of the information websites gather when you visit and exploit that to your advantage. This information is submitted correctly through my elite vpn proxy (a vpn is not technically a proxy, but its purpose is the same and I will refer to it as one from time to time). For the most part this stuff isn't necessary but if you ever wonder how they chain iced your side accounts while using a proxy it is a mix of personal information, trends, and the following.

When someone visits my website, in addition to their ip and service provider I get (with a basic free stat gatherer-I could get a lot more info if I wanted to spend a few bucks a month):

WinVista (1024x819x32) -operating system, screen resolution, color depth.
MSIE 8.0 (JavaScript: 1.3, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes) -browser, java, etc

WinXP (1600x900x24)
Firefox 3.6 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

Neopets can tell that you are using different computer and you can trick them into thinking you are.

Changing your screen resolution and color depth is the easiest, but least necessary. Using a user agent changer can make you appear to be on a different browser and operating system.

Also, through an elite proxy they can see your browsers plug-ins. Not a big deal and you wont get iced for it, but when deciding which of the 10 accounts they are thinking are yours having very generic plug-ins will help.

If you really, really, want to protect your account you can uninstall the latest java update leaving an older version and then reinstall. I'm still working on a way to spoof the java version if there is one and will update if I find a way to do it.
I wouldn't go through any of this trouble for shells, but to make sure my main isn't linked with anything, I'll do anything.

The below has been rendered useless and added to a spoiler because of finding a good user agent switcher but I will leave it here because its an extremely interesting to boot a computer and access your hard drive from a different operating system.
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The above is the premise of this post. Below you will find tools and information on how to actually do some of these things.
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Testing your proxy:

First and foremost when using a proxy use this page to check that your ip is actually different: Whats my ip. They have an excellent array of tools to test if your proxy is sending accurate information about you.

The first link they have is More Info About You. This is where you will find the majority of information that you are sending a website. It may disturb you to see how accurate some of it is through your proxy which is what prompted me to do more research on this subject.

Another helpful link, which helped me find the weakness in my first proxy is: Proxy Test.

The first spoiler is the information shown without a proxy. The second is with a proxy to compare what information is hopefully changed, and what information will be sent correctly anyway. After, some testing, the second proxy could get me in trouble, and I have moved onto a third proxy. The second spoiler will show the weakness of my first proxy. The third spoiler shows the strength of my new proxy.
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This is the second spoiler. I was using a vpn which I thought was secure but in looking at More Info About You I found a serious weakness. It was even more obviously on Proxy Test. I've excluded browser information and plug-ins since they are the same as the previous spoiler. Thus far, I have not been iced for multi using this vpn but down the road if I get flagged this could be bad, bad, bad.
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Now for the information sent by my super awesome new proxy that makes me warm and fuzzy inside.
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User Agent Switching.
(Your browser and operating system information)

First Install Chrispederik's User Agent Switcher for firefox. This allows you to tell websites that you are using a different browser and operating system. Some websites will actually display their page differently to you based on the browser you are using and you will notice a difference immediately when you switch user agents. This is due to code in their css/html that says "If browser is lower than I.E 7.0 use this code."

Then download: User Agent List. You can either go to the link and click File -> Save Page As or right click the link and Save Link As. This will save the page as a .XML file. Save it somewhere easy to access.

Next, Click Tools -> Default User Agent -> Scroll down until you see: Edit User Agents... Once you click that you will see a screen that looks like:
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Click Import and select the file you previously saved. Now you have a ton of user agents to pick from.
In the spoiler is a screen shot of the huge list of User Agents you now can chose from.
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Below are examples of how powerful user agent switching is. These are examples all from the same computer:

Mac OS X (1280x768x24)
Safari 1.0 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

Win95 (1280x768x24)
Netscape 4.05 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

Win2k3 (1280x768x24)
Opera 7.6 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

Linux (1280x768x24)
Netscape 5.0 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

Win7 (1280x768x24)
MSIE 7.0 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

WinXP (1280x768x24)
Firefox 2.0 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

Win3x (1280x768x24) -gasp ancient computer. Windows 3.1
AOL Browser 3.0 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)

If I use any bot user agent (yahoo, google, etc) and forget to turn it off neocodex tells me "Your posting privileges have been removed my an administrator." and I cannot log in.

Notice on all of the above examples my JavaScript versions and screen resolution are the same. I can change this by uninstalling the latest update of java and changing my resolution. While I don't think this is necessary to use multi accounts at all if you want your main account to look completely and utterly separate of you then added changes to your information can only help you in the long run.


*Near future tests*
Shortly I will be testing flash based stat gatherers and hopefully find a way to alert when a flash cookie is made and information on how to clear them. If neopets is smart they will have flash cookies here and there. I've been iced in other games due to not clearing flash cookies.

Java stat gatherer as java can send your correct ip rather than your proxy.

Hopefully a way to spoof the version of java installed rather and install and uninstall.


#1334322 [G U I D E] Proxys and How to use them!

Posted by bobsauce on 31 August 2010 - 08:37 PM

If you're paranoid, even using a proxy, its a good idea to know some of the information websites gather when you visit and exploit that to your advantage. This information is submitted correctly through my elite vpn proxy. For the most part this stuff isn't necessary but if you ever wonder how they chain iced your side accounts while using a proxy it is a mix of personal information, trends, and the following.

When someone visits my website, in addition to their ip and service provider I get (with a basic free stat gatherer-I could get a lot more info if I wanted to spend a few bucks a month):

WinVista (1024x819x32) -operating system and screen resolution
MSIE 8.0 (JavaScript: 1.3, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes) -browser, java, etc

WinXP (1600x900x24)
Firefox 3.6 (JavaScript: 1.8, Cookie: Yes, Java: Yes)
Neopets can tell that you are using different computer and you can trick them into thinking you are.

Changing your screen resolution and color depth is the easiest. Even installing and using different versions of the same browser can make them second guess suspicion. Also, through an elite proxy they can see your browsers addons which was mentioned earlier. Not a big deal and you wont get iced for it, but when deciding which of the 10 accounts they are thinking are yours having a different version of firefox with different addons installed and only used on a specific account will help

If you really, really, want to protect your account you can uninstall the latest java update leaving an older version and then reinstall.

I wouldn't go through any of this trouble for shells, but to make sure my main isn't linked with anything, I'll do anything. If you really wanted to get complicated you could run duel operating systems on different partitions and use one only for your main account (say you use windows 7-install xp on a separate partition and only log into your main account from xp.)

If anyone finds this interesting/useful pm me and I can explain how to do some of this stuff if you aren't computer savy.

p.s If you are savy and want to run a bunch of very, very legit looking accounts get a couple flash drives. Install live versions of different operating systems (one per flash drive) and set your bios to boot from usb. Tweak everything to run bare bones because flash drives are way slower than ram and tada as far as neopets is concerned you ARE on different computers.


#1327280 Super/System

Posted by bobsauce on 18 August 2010 - 04:24 PM

I was wondering why there seems to be a lot of traffic on items I've been rsing for months with little competition. Looks like I found out why :). As much as I hate missing items there is a lot of quality information here.

I restock mainly by hand and have never used ambrosia but the buying strategies discussed are solid. I didn't see noted anywhere but I did only scan a lot of posts:

New items, quite obviously, are amazing to chase around. I spend a great deal of time chasing new items in shops, and sometimes resell items that undercut me. Their prices diminish quickly but the profit is amazing while it lasts.

For example: The rocky ocean background that came out on 08/09. Its uncommon, restocks sometimes in 3s and 9 days later the price is still fluctuating between 200-500k. The fluctuation is huge. I sold one for 200k thinking the price was going down as the tp was flooded and a few hours later sold two more for 450k. In 6 days, just from that item, I've made over 5mil. That doesn't include other new items, other items i got from shop 108, etc.

The major downside being lots of people chase new items and sometimes they go faster than ubs but I've never had a day that i didn't make significant profit chasing them.