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Sweeney

Member Since 24 Aug 2005
Offline Last Active Jul 27 2018 06:17 PM

#2026160 Sleeping with a married person

Posted by Sweeney on 15 July 2018 - 07:24 AM

i honwstly believe its the married persons job to not cheat, not everyone elses job to watch out for them.


Por que no los dos?


#2026078 Sleeping with a married person

Posted by Sweeney on 12 July 2018 - 10:09 AM

We’re talking sex right? Not fussy relationships/affairs. And that should answer your question.


You're spectacularly naive if you think sex is so easily separated from "fussy relationships".
But that's irrelevant. If one partner in a relationship thinks they're monogamous and the other is seeking extramarital sex, then there's an issue. Knowingly putting yourself into that situation as a third party is not cool.

So, no, you didn't answer my question.


#2026070 Sleeping with a married person

Posted by Sweeney on 12 July 2018 - 09:20 AM

The married person has an obligation to not willingly hurt someone, if they wanted to cheat they will and the only thing I can change is whether if they cheat with me or with someone else. If it's my best friend's partner I'd have a friendship to preserve so no I wouldn't sleep with their partner.


Kevin is going to kill someone whether I sell him this gun or not, so I may as well make a buck.
Barry is going to steal that candy whether I help him or not, so I may as well get some Laffy Taffy out of it.
Jeremy is going to sell that weed to highschoolers whether or not I drive him to the playground, so I may as well get a nug out of it.
Tony is going to cheat on his wife wether or not it's with me, so I may as well get a good lay out of it.

I don't see a difference between these situations other than degree. The "may as well" character still has culpability for the negative effects of their actions, no matter how hard they want to rationalise them away.

Also, why do you feel the need to preserve that relationship by not sleeping with their partner? According to you, you'd have done nothing wrong and this hypothetical cheater would shoulder all the blame.
Unless, of course, it doesn't really work that way when you have to face the consequences of your actions.


#2026068 Sleeping with a married person

Posted by Sweeney on 12 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

My personal morals said it wasn’t my responsibility. I didn’t cheat on anyone. Everyone is different though.


Sure, you didn't breach someone's trust that you knew, or someone that you personally made an agreement with. But you did knowingly help someone else break a promise. Is it OK just because you don't know the guy's wife?


#2026061 Sleeping with a married person

Posted by Sweeney on 12 July 2018 - 08:16 AM

Yeah I was too vague, you're right!
 
I also agree that it's all about your moral set. I don't think it's right when someone seduces a married person, even worse if they are friends with their partner, but I don't see any problem when someone married comes to you. Of course, if you have all those moral values and is a "honorable" person you might find it wrong, but that's your opinion and nothing more. By either denying or accepting the invite you're not changing the final result of the whole thing.
I've been cheated in the past and the only person responsible for it was my ex, that simple.
 
also lol you can't compare a relationship with a crime


lol you absolutely can when we're talking about a violation of trust.
If you asked me not to eat any of the cookies you baked for your Mom, then eating them would be a dick move. If I offered them to my wife without telling her they were not meant to be eaten, she's not responsible because she didn't know. But if I offer them to my wife and tell her they're not meant to be eaten she becomes a conspirator and is responsible also.

It sounds to me like you don't believe the less aggressive person in a relationship holds any responsibility for their actions - like if someone seduced you, you'd lose all capacity to think for yourself. No doubt that your ex is responsible for cheating on you, but if the person they cheated on you with was aware that it was an adulterous relationship then they are responsible too.


#2026057 Sleeping with a married person

Posted by Sweeney on 12 July 2018 - 06:48 AM

Been there, done that. If it's not with you, it will be with someone else, they are the ones who should be faithful and not you.


That's not a super clear moral stance, there. If you agree that cheating is unfaithful, and therefore implicitly immoral, do you not also bear part of the responsibility even though you were not the cheater?

There's a reason people can be charged as accessories to crimes when assisting someone they know is going to break the law.


#2025828 How privileged are you?!

Posted by Sweeney on 06 July 2018 - 09:23 AM

I don't understand this or what it means.

 

It's a Buzzfeed quiz, it doesn't mean anything.




#2025602 How privileged are you?!

Posted by Sweeney on 27 June 2018 - 08:50 PM

It could be argued that it is harder to change your wealth than it is to change your gender now. I don't know if I would argue that, but it certainly could be argued.

 

If you can afford gender reassignment surgery, you're probably not too impoverished in the first place :p




#2025577 How privileged are you?!

Posted by Sweeney on 27 June 2018 - 05:41 PM

What's intellectual privilege feel like?


Sadness and despair.


#2025570 How privileged are you?!

Posted by Sweeney on 27 June 2018 - 05:17 PM

59/100. Meh. It's buzzfeed so taking it with a grain of salt.

 

It's also a "privilege quiz", so it should already be pretty salty in here :p




#2025543 How privileged are you?!

Posted by Sweeney on 27 June 2018 - 04:05 PM

Do you feel like you're privileged by being able to think of it as a different kind of privilege?
(That's not a loaded question btw)

 

I mean, sure, so far as I'm sufficiently privileged to be able to use the internet and have conversations about concepts that no longer affect me personally.

 

Do you feel that my privilege invalidates my perspective?




#2025519 How privileged are you?!

Posted by Sweeney on 27 June 2018 - 01:42 PM

I mean, this could mostly have been compressed (for Americans) into:

 

1) Are you white?

2) Are you straight?

3) Are you Christian?

4) Are you male?

 

Done and dusted.




#2025007 Trump meets with Kim-Jong who agrees to complete denuclearization

Posted by Sweeney on 13 June 2018 - 09:24 AM

My understanding is that the extent of denuclearisation that was promised in this deal is the same as was already promised in the existing agreement with South Korea signed a short while ago. From what I've seen, no one knows if Trump actually negotiated anything new.




#2025004 Cooper Pooper's 2018 Spring Scavenger Hunt Extravaganza

Posted by Sweeney on 13 June 2018 - 09:16 AM

Yeah you can, you're right. Are you so lonely and insecure that you feel the need to pretend to be some pseudointellectual sociopath? Because that's fine, but don't come shitting on MY work when you aren't even participating. It doesn't make you cool or liked. It just makes you an asshole

 

Yeah! I'm the only real pseudointellectual sociopath around these parts.

 

(And yes, I totally found this be searching my own username.)




#2025003 So what've you all been up to?

Posted by Sweeney on 13 June 2018 - 09:10 AM

I've been pretty busy. Same job, but bought a house and a new (to me) car. I think I bought the house before I was last here though, so I might have mentioned that already.

 

Still married, still playing WoW.

 

Same, mostly.

 

I hear Laser is gone, according to these Codies. What's up with that?