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Posted by ortin on 14 August 2017 - 09:45 PM
The fact that it's legal for them to do this is just gross.
Throwing up a 'heil hitler' in Europe will get you fined a lot of times if not more depending on circumstances.
Assembling to protest and freedom of speech is a constitutionally protected right. These hallowed American principals are worthless if they are thrown out any time we disagree with the said protesters.
Murdering and lynching people on the other hand is indeed illegal.
Posted by ortin on 03 August 2017 - 07:12 PM
Just curious, what was the total cost of the rig? Looks fantastic!
Posted by ortin on 26 June 2017 - 01:10 PM
The actual answer: There is a checkbox for buying unknown items. Turn it off.
Posted by ortin on 15 May 2017 - 02:34 PM
Seed autobuyer is very outdated (not sure if it works anymore at this point), and various versions of it does include a key logger that steals your account information, which has been confirmed by the author of the program. Don't use it.
Posted by ortin on 20 April 2017 - 07:03 AM
Posted by ortin on 02 April 2017 - 07:43 PM
Nooooo no mac support
Posted by ortin on 08 March 2017 - 03:25 PM
Gotta celebrate it like Deadpool
Posted by ortin on 20 February 2017 - 10:01 PM
Guys can't we all just be friends?
Posted by ortin on 19 February 2017 - 05:04 PM
I have a few points to make in response to this.
Firstly, the video I'm referring to that stitched a false narrative is this: http://www.wsj.com/v...8F1E1ABEA9.html
Notice how, unlike the rest of the article which you had to subscribe for, this video was free. It was also VERY sensationalized and dramatic. Not exactly unbiased reporting. ALSO, you're right. The REST of the article from the WSJ is less one sided. Slightly, at the least. But that just feeds my point even more: The WSJ posted a VERY sensationalized video (which is what most people have seen. Most of what goes viral is videos, not articles). Also the title is sensationalized. It's only once the WSJ has your money, you're subscribed to them, then they let you off the hook and they're like "So here's exactly what happened, it's not that bad but it's still kinda bad." Which is fair. It was kinda bad. But not NEARLY as bad as the video and title make him sound.
In response to the thing about neo-nazis supporting pewd, that's just ridiculous. They're doing that to screw around and make a social commentary. That racist group later said that they supported the writers of the article that defamed Felix. They're messing around. Even the neo-nazi group realized Felix was just joking and that he was getting screwed by the media, so they added fuel to it.
I had not watched the video. After watching it, wow I agree with you. The video never once explained that the anti-semitic jokes were JOKES, and heavily inferred that Pewdiepie was serious about it. This is some borderline intellectual dishonesty
I don't agree with your argument that the title was sensationalized, however. Disney did in fact cut ties with Pewdiepie, so what's wrong with calling the article/video "Disney Cuts Ties to YouTube Superstar PewDiePie"? An actual clickbait title would be a sensational title with an article that has little to do with it.
Posted by ortin on 19 February 2017 - 04:41 PM
Then there's the matter of context. The short version of this ranting paragraph is: media takes shit out of context to conform to their goal in the article. There's quite a few examples you can pick up on with just a couple of clicks, but I'm gonna touch on only one: Pewdiepie made a video ranting about the media, how they take things out of context. He then deliberately made an offensive joke, and then a news outlet (I believe the WSJ again but I may be wrong on this) took that video, cut everything out except for the offensive joke and then went on to write an article about how he's a racist mysoginist anti-semitic whatever buzzword. WHAT.
The original reporter of the story is the WSJ. Again, the WSJ has never said that Pewdiepie is a "racist mysoginist anti-semitic whatever buzzword", only that he has used offensive jokes in his videos. Other new organizations may have made that ludicrous claim, but as far as I can see the WSJ handled it incredibly professionally.
The irritating thing about it is the unwillingness of readers to read past the headline and actually delve into an article. "I don't feel like reading this entire article so I'm just gonna go ahead and read this blatantly misleading headline and spread the word about it"
I completely agree, but also in the opposite way of what you mean. I think you are overreacting to the "bias and sensationalism" in media, specifically this piece. If people actually read the WSJ article, they would see that the reporters weren't trying to be sensational by linking ludicrous claims with badly chosen evidence. The Wall Street Journal just laid out the evidence, gave examples of what other people thought, and left it at that. That being said, there has been plenty of people who clearly overreacted the other way, being outraged that Pewdiepie is RACIST MYSOGINIST AND ANTI-SEMITIC without actually reading the article.
Posted by ortin on 19 February 2017 - 04:04 PM
Wow, turns out I'm the minority opinion in this? I thought it was pretty unanimously obvious that the media is defaming him and people are just eating up the opportunity to call him a Nazi because they dislike him. Confirmation bias type thing, "Ugh Pewdiepie is so annoying... Oh and he's a Nazi? Yeah, screw him!"
He's not a Nazi. The whole reason that Fiverr video was funny was BECAUSE it was shocking. It was like "Holy crap I can't believe these people actually did this". It's low brow, shock value, stupid humor, sure. But he's not a Nazi lol. Also, to the people saying that Felix was abusing the Fiverr people and this is somehow his fault... I disagree entirely. What he said in his response video is entirely true. Those dudes "dancing in the jungle" as they themselves put it, were just following through with their business on their own free will. Their entire purpose is people to laugh at them. They're caricatures. That's like someone hiring a clown and laughing when they get hit in the face with a pie, and then people get offended on behalf of the clown. If the people in the video cared that their customers were laughing about it, they wouldn't be doing the stupid crap for people's entertainment. People are getting offended on behalf of people that are voluntarily acting goofy for money.
Also, I'd like to point out, why is all the backlash against Pewdiepie anyway? Why is no one upset at Fiverr? Or how come no one is upset at the people who followed through with the order? They're people too, why is it only Pewdiepie that's held accountable for his actions? Why is Pewd an anti-semite for ordering that request, as a joke, and not expecting it, but the people in the video who voluntarily followed through with it not even questioned?
I understand that freedom of speech is a two way street, people are allowed to have whatever opinions they want on the video. But NEWS OUTLETS aren't people. News outlets are gigantic corporations with the legal duty to not slander (libel) an individual. They took a bunch of clips out of context and stitched them together to form a story. Why does anyone even trust the media anymore? It's just filled to the brim with bias and sensationalism. It's disgusting.
I'd like to clarify that I don't like or care about Pewdiepie either, by the way. The only thing I'm against is labeling people Nazi over a joke that he didn't even think would happen, and news outlets getting away with flat out defamation and fabricating a story. Context matters.
Edit: inb4 i regret posting my opinion and i'm labelled racist
Here is the full WSJ article, in case if you didn't read it (since it's subscription only and all that):
Millions of people have watched a Jan. 11 video by YouTube’s biggest star that included two men laughing as they held a banner that read, “Death to all Jews.”
The man behind the video is Felix Kjellberg, a 27-year-old Swede known as “PewDiePie,” who has amassed 53 million subscribers. His success has brought him multimillion-dollar deals from YouTube and Walt Disney Co., which owns a firm that runs Mr. Kjellberg’s business.
Since August, PewDiePie has posted nine videos that include anti-Semitic jokes or Nazi imagery, according to a review of his channel by The Wall Street Journal.
On Monday after the Journal contacted Disney about the videos, the entertainment giant said it was severing ties with Mr. Kjellberg, who as PewDiePie rose to prominence via clips of himself playing videogames or performing skits and making crude jokes.
Under the terms of their arrangement, Mr. Kjellberg had editorial independence.
“Although Felix has created a following by being provocative and irreverent, he clearly went too far in this case and the resulting videos are inappropriate,” said a spokeswoman for Maker Studios, the Disney division that was business partners with PewDiePie.
PewDiePie’s account also took down three videos with a total of about 23 million views—the Jan. 11 video, and ones from Jan. 17 and Jan. 22—after the Journal’s inquiries. In the Jan. 22 video, Mr. Kjellberg showed a man dressed as Jesus Christ saying, “Hitler did absolutely nothing wrong.”
Mr. Kjellberg said in a video a few days later that the Jan. 11 clip was a joke that went too far. Alphabet Inc.’s Google, which owns YouTube, pulled ads that run on its videos from the Jan. 11 video within days of its posting, before it was taken down this past weekend. YouTube hasn’t pulled any of the nine videos in question, though PewDiePie’s account took down three of them. Google hasn’t removed ads from any of Mr. Kjellberg’s other videos.
Mr. Kjellberg didn’t respond to requests for comment for this article. On Sunday, he wrote on Tumblr that he wanted to “clear some things up,” specifically that he doesn’t support “any kind of hateful attitudes.” Mr. Kjellberg wrote that he creates content for entertainment, not as political commentary, and understands “these jokes were ultimately offensive.”
The videos illustrate the risk for companies such as YouTube and Disney that, eager to reach young audiences, make deals with talent who may push boundaries on what is acceptable within the company’s standards or basic social norms. By distributing the content to a wide audience, companies are vulnerable to criticism when a user’s words are deemed offensive. In Mr. Kjellberg’s case, a major neo-Nazi website has embraced his statements.
Social media companies also are wrestling with how to address darker forms of speech, whether it is jihadist propaganda or rhetoric from an emerging white-nationalist movement. The dilemma is especially troublesome when it involves prominent figures like Mr. Kjellberg. Twitter Inc., for instance, has stepped up efforts to suspend accounts violating its hate speech and harassment rules. It recently banned Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos for violating its abusive content policy, for example. YouTube said it prohibits videos that violate its rules, which include a ban on content that “promotes or condones violence against individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin [or] religion.”
In reviewing videos, the company said it considers intent as well as the context. “If content is intended to be provocative or satirical, it may remain online. If the uploader’s intent is to incite violence or hatred it will be removed.” YouTube declined to comment specifically on PewDiePie’s videos. Mr. Kjellberg’s videos in recent weeks have drawn the praise of neo-Nazi websites like Daily Stormer, which the Southern Poverty Law Center on Thursday dubbed the “top hate site in America.”
On Jan. 23, the site changed its motto to “The world’s #1 PewDiePie fansite,” according to the Internet Archive, celebrating Mr. Kjellberg for “making the masses comfortable with our ideas.”
Mr. Kjellberg is a top earner on YouTube, making roughly $14.5 million last year, according to estimates from social media data firm NeoReach. That amount includes splitting ad revenue with YouTube, as well as sponsorships and appearance fees.
His videos collectively have been watched 14.7 billion times, more than anyone else on YouTube. He has nearly double as many subscriptions as the next top YouTube star and roughly 78% of his viewers are under 20 years old, NeoReach said. His star power helped him secure a multimillion-dollar bonus from YouTube around late 2015 to keep his videos on its site exclusively, according to people familiar with the deal.
A show starring him now anchors YouTube’s subscription service, YouTube Red.
Mr. Kjellberg was since 2012 a part of an online video network run by Maker Studios, which Disney bought in 2014 for $675 million. Last year, after he threatened to leave, Maker formed its first ever joint venture making it and Mr. Kjellberg co-owners of a company that produces videos, mobile apps and merchandise, according to a person with knowledge of the agreement. Now that Disney has ended the joint venture, Mr. Kjellberg’s options are to produce videos independently or find a new partner.
Mr. Kjellberg, who in late December was working out of an old Disney office outside London, has said the media takes his jokes out of context.
“What I just think—and I believe strongly in—is that it is 2017 now,” he said in the Jan. 22 video that was taken down. “We’re going to have to start separating what is a joke, and what is actually problematic.
“Is a joke actually pure racism?” he said. “Is something that would be considered a joke purely homophobic, or anti-Semitic and all these things? Context f—ing matters.”
Mr. Kjellberg’s use of Nazi material dates back to at least Aug. 7, when he began a video with a swastika and other Nazi imagery. Wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat from President Donald Trump’s campaign, Mr. Kjellberg used a photo of Hitler as a segue between clips.
Mr. Kjellberg says the material is portrayed in jest. He showed a clip from a Hitler speech in a Sept. 24 video criticizing a YouTube policy, posted swastikas drawn by his fans on Oct. 15 and watched a Hitler video in a brown military uniform to conclude a Dec. 8 video. He also played the Nazi Party anthem before bowing to a swastika in a mock resurrection ritual on Jan. 14, and included a very brief Nazi salute with a Hitler voice-over saying “Sieg Heil” and the text “Nazi Confirmed” near the beginning of a Feb. 5 video.
In the Jan. 11 video, in which the two men are unfurling the “Death to All Jews” sign, Mr. Kjellberg paid people to do bizarre things via the website Fiverr, which helps freelancers secure part-time work. After he shows himself hiring the men to make the sign, he watches them unfurling the sign while they laugh and dance. Mr. Kjellberg appears to express shock and apologizes, saying “I didn’t think they would actually do it.” He doesn’t explain why he still included the clip in the video, which wasn’t broadcast live. The Indian men, apologized in a video saying “we really don’t know what the message meant when making the video.”
Mr. Kjellberg defended himself from criticism in a Jan. 17 video, saying “I think there’s a difference between a joke and actual like... death to all Jews. If I made a video saying”—Mr. Kjellberg then quickly cuts to a close-up of his face illuminated brightly—“Hey guys, PewDiePie here. Death to all Jews, I want you to say after me: Death to all Jews. And, you know, Hitler was right. I really opened my eyes to white power. And I think it is time we did something about this.” The video then zooms back out and he adds: “That is how they’re essentially reporting this, as if that’s what I was saying.”
Jonathan Vick, an associate director of the Anti-Defamation League, criticized Mr. Kjellberg’s apologies. “Just putting it out there brings it more and more into the mainstream,” he said.
Fiverr suspended the accounts of Mr. Kjellberg, the two men in the video and the Jesus actor whom Mr. Kjellberg paid to say, “Hitler did nothing wrong,” according to a person familiar with the matter. Of the actor’s suspension, Mr. Kjellberg said in a later video, “Isn’t it ironic that Jews found another way to f— Jesus over?” Fiverr is based in Tel Aviv.
You argue that news media have a responsibility to not slander against an individual, which is true. However, what I see is a professionally written news article on the Wall Street Journal, simply telling the facts. Pewdiepie DID post videos using anti-Semitic rhetoric as jokes! Notice how the WSJ had enough nuance to never call Pewdiepie an outright racist (stitching out of context videos into a story?), just that he used racist jokes. Furthermore, while it is fairly self evident that these were jokes, this quote from the article is concerning: "In Mr. Kjellberg’s case, a major neo-Nazi website has embraced his statements." If you get to the point where a neo-Nazi website embrace your statements, it might be a sign that you took it too far.
Posted by ortin on 19 February 2017 - 03:17 PM
Disney is a private corporation, sponsoring Pewdiepie on a privately run online show. If Disney thinks that Pewdiepie's jokes were distasteful to the point that they didn't want to be associated with that, it's Disney's right to sever ties with Pewdiepie. Free speech still means speech has consequences, unless if you're the President of the United States
Posted by ortin on 25 November 2016 - 03:36 PM
- Are you more likely to reserve your negative opinions, or share them without much regard to those who it may affect?
- Do you ever overreact to things for attention?
- Are you open to change?
- If someone handed you a million dollars, how long do you think you would have it before it was all gone?
- Is there a road rule that you think is just plain dumb?
1. I usually share my opinions on the internet with less of a filter. In real life, I tend to be more discerning. It's just so hard to tell who would get offended or hurt when I'm not in front of them.
2. Not intentionally
3. Yes, only if I see how it makes logical sense. I have changed quite a bit of my long held beliefs because of that!
4. I would invest it in some index funds and maybe take it out when I retire, so I'd imagine it would last quite a long while. I'm the type of person who wouldn't make impulse purchases if I suddenly came to a lot of money.
5. No, road rules are important in staying safe. You're rushing around in a 2,000 pound vehicle that costs thousands of dollars!