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How does TNT actually know you are ABing?


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#1 Schroeder

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 02:56 PM

Yes, people get reported all the time because other jealous players cannot imagine how they restock a Morphing Potion at all, but without proof, TNT just shrugs these reports off.

So, when someone actually does report someone who is for sure cheating, TNT just shrugs that off as well.

Therefore, how do accounts get frozen? Is Ambrosia really "undetectable"?

I don't know if all this makes sense, I just want to be sure about some things before I start doing "things" if you know what I mean ;)

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    #2 Kyle

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 02:59 PM

    Yes, people get reported all the time because other jealous players cannot imagine how they restock a Morphing Potion at all, but without proof, TNT just shrugs these reports off.

    So, when someone actually does report someone who is for sure cheating, TNT just shrugs that off as well.

    Therefore, how do accounts get frozen? Is Ambrosia really "undetectable"?

    I don't know if all this makes sense, I just want to be sure about some things before I start doing "things" if you know what I mean ;)

    Whats Ambrosia?

    #3 Boggart

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 02:59 PM

    Yes, people get reported all the time because other jealous players cannot imagine how they restock a Morphing Potion at all, but without proof, TNT just shrugs these reports off.

    So, when someone actually does report someone who is for sure cheating, TNT just shrugs that off as well.

    Therefore, how do accounts get frozen? Is Ambrosia really "undetectable"?

    I don't know if all this makes sense, I just want to be sure about some things before I start doing "things" if you know what I mean ;)


    1) It's ABrosia, not Ambrosia
    2) Who said it's undetectable...?
    3) It's very obvious who's cheating if you're not smart about it. You just have to learn from experience. And people report people all the time and yes they do get frozen all the time. I have no idea where your'e getting any of this info from.

    #4 Schroeder

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:01 PM

    Whats Ambrosia?
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    I'm not sure if you are trolling or not sinceI don't know the individual people here yet, but I thought it was the Auto Buyer program thing you guys use?

    1) It's ABrosia, not Ambrosia
    2) Who said it's undetectable...?
    3) It's very obvious who's cheating if you're not smart about it. You just have to learn from experience. And people report people all the time and yes they do get frozen all the time. I have no idea where your'e getting any of this info from.



    Oh sorry my bad =P

    When I was a good little boy I reported people I knew without a doubt in my mind were cheating, but nothing ever happened to them, no matter how obvious their cheating was.



    #5 rizler

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:02 PM

    i suggest you do your research before posting :) your a new member maybe read the ABrosia thread :)

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:03 PM

    Whats Ambrosia?
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    I'm not sure if you are trolling or not sinceI don't know the individual people here yet, but I thought it was the Auto Buyer program thing you guys use?




    Oh sorry my bad =P

    When I was a good little boy I reported people I knew without a doubt in my mind were cheating, but nothing ever happened to them, no matter how obvious their cheating was.



    When enough people report you, they'll get it checked out. IF only one random person does, they probably won't.

    You just need to be smart with your autobuying/botting. Simple as that. If you buy 2 draik morphing potions in a day, youll get iced for sure. even if you buy one, you'll get iced if you don't have good buy times.

    #7 MisterDerp

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:04 PM

    Ambrosia is the nectar of the gods.

    Abrosia is a shitty autobuying program.

    I hope that clarifies things for you!


    Ambrosia is also a ghastly fruit salad. D: That term has to be sarcastic since ambrosia is pretty foul.

    #8 Scot

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:05 PM

    Come on guys it's just a typo, no need to beat it half to death

    #9 Schroeder

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:06 PM

    Come on guys it's just a typo, no need to beat it half to death


    Actually I meant Ambrosia... lol that's what skimming the forums really fast does =P

    #10 rizler

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:09 PM

    Actually I meant Ambrosia... lol that's what skimming the forums really fast does =P


    if you mean Ambrosia i think your on the wrong site alltogether :)

    #11 jaredennisclark

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:11 PM

    Yes, people get reported all the time because other jealous players cannot imagine how they restock a Morphing Potion at all, but without proof, TNT just shrugs these reports off.

    So, when someone actually does report someone who is for sure cheating, TNT just shrugs that off as well.


    No, they don't just shrug the reports off.

    Edited by jaredennisclark, 26 February 2011 - 03:12 PM.


    #12 BEEEEWRRYY

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:13 PM

    I thought it was ambrosia for the longest time. But yeah long ass RS times and getting crazy sweet items

    #13 Formaldehyde

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:14 PM

    If you gnab an item in a time interval that is humanly impossible, then TNT will know you're cheating. That's why you're not supposed to set Abrosia to intervals that are too short. Of course, the time it takes for someone to get an item is different for everyone, so TNT uses their best judgement to determine if you are using programs to buy.

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:15 PM

    Gnab? Really?

    #15 rizler

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:19 PM

    Gnab? Really?


    i think because the person is a pokemon fan they use that term "Gnab"

    anyway i think if you happened to get a Draik egg and your RS time was roughly 2000ms you should be fine i would imagine

    seeing as alot of my RSes are are approx that and i know people who have bought expensive items with lower times :)

    #16 jaredennisclark

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:19 PM

    If you gnab an item in a time interval that is humanly impossible, then TNT will know you're cheating. That's why you're not supposed to set Abrosia to intervals that are too short. Of course, the time it takes for someone to get an item is different for everyone, so TNT uses their best judgement to determine if you are using programs to buy.


    If they're prompted to actually look at your buy logs.

    I've been consistently buying items at 800-1500ms for months now, and have never had any problems. I believe it depends more on what items you choose to go for.

    Edited by jaredennisclark, 26 February 2011 - 03:20 PM.


    #17 Boggart

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:25 PM

    If they're prompted to actually look at your buy logs.

    I've been consistently buying items at 800-1500ms for months now, and have never had any problems. I believe it depends more on what items you choose to go for.


    It's partly that, yes, but it's also a larger thing. The more legit you look, the more your buy times are given leeway. Like if you do dailies, chat, play games etc, you WILL look less suspicious. I know on my shells if I have low buy times I'll get iced within the day. On my main, I can get much lower because I have a "reputation" of playing "legit" :p

    #18 Formaldehyde

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:28 PM

    If they're prompted to actually look at your buy logs.

    I've been consistently buying items at 800-1500ms for months now, and have never had any problems. I believe it depends more on what items you choose to go for.


    That's true. If you're not making that much money then TNT doesn't really have any reason to be suspicious.

    ps. I was reading about gnomes so I guess that's why I wrote gnab? xD

    #19 Roxi

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:30 PM

    Seriously, just don't have crazy fast buy times and don't get a tone of 5mil+ items in a day and you should be fine. People who use Abrosia conservatively have a much better chance of not getting iced.

    #20 Schroeder

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:45 PM

    Seriously, just don't have crazy fast buy times and don't get a tone of 5mil+ items in a day and you should be fine. People who use Abrosia conservatively have a much better chance of not getting iced.


    So does that mean that the more popular shops will more likely get you iced than the less popular ones?

    Like, if I restock Coins instead of the Bakery, would TNT look at me more suspiciously?

    #21 jaredennisclark

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:47 PM

    It's partly that, yes, but it's also a larger thing. The more legit you look, the more your buy times are given leeway. Like if you do dailies, chat, play games etc, you WILL look less suspicious. I know on my shells if I have low buy times I'll get iced within the day. On my main, I can get much lower because I have a "reputation" of playing "legit" :p


    I'm not sure that factors in all that much. 4-5 of my shells has no shop, no gallery, and zero avatars.

    #22 CuriousOyster

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:49 PM

    So does that mean that the more popular shops will more likely get you iced than the less popular ones?

    Like, if I restock Coins instead of the Bakery, would TNT look at me more suspiciously?

    Most definitely, especially if you grab a highly rare coin that hasn't been released for a month or so under 2000 ms.
    Ice you on the spot.



    #23 Boggart

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:51 PM

    I'm not sure that factors in all that much. 4-5 of my shells has no shop, no gallery, and zero avatars.


    oh most of my shells don't either :p liek 2 avatars, no gallery etc. but the ones that do almost always last longer when they all have the same settings with those that don't.

    Edited by Boggart, 26 February 2011 - 03:58 PM.


    #24 Schroeder

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:56 PM

    Most definitely, especially if you grab a highly rare coin that hasn't been released for a month or so under 2000 ms.
    Ice you on the spot.



    Oh okay that makes sense thanks =)

    So the riskier shops are the ones that turn the most profit such as Magic and Stamps, right?

    Would, say, Booktastic Books and the Toy Shop be risky?

    #25 Boggart

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    Posted 26 February 2011 - 03:59 PM

    Oh okay that makes sense thanks =)

    So the riskier shops are the ones that turn the most profit such as Magic and Stamps, right?

    Would, say, Booktastic Books and the Toy Shop be risky?


    booktastic and toy shop are not risky, but they're not safe

    safe shops like food and pharmacy and book are fine to have buy times of about 1500

    Those shops you should stick to maybe 1800 to be perfectly safe, because it's not high profile, but some really expensive items restock there, so I would play it on a the safer side


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