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[Kat]

So, I feel the urge to just tell somebody. Anybody.. even anonymous people on the internet about my struggle. I have my boyfriend to help me too, but I think he doesn't really understand. It's hard to when you don't have it I guess. At least I do have him, my parents aren't understanding at all.

Anyway, I guess I'll start with what it actually is.

Spoiler

Here's a short wikipedia synopsis: "
Trichotillomania, which is classified as an impulse control disorder by DSM-IV, is the compulsive urge to pull out one's own hair leading to noticeable hair loss, distress, and social or functional impairment. It is often chronic and difficult to treat.

Trichotillomania may be present in infants, but the peak age of onset is 9 to 13. It may be triggered by depression or stress. Due to social implications the disorder is often unreported and it is difficult to accurately predict its prevalence; the lifetime prevalence is estimated to be between 0.6% (overall) and may be as high as 1.5% (in males) to 3.4% (in females)."

and here's the rest of it if you're so inclined: http://en.wikipedia....richotillomania




So, I pull just my eyelashes. They are all gone. I started around 11 years old and haven't stopped since. I think being stressed from school and home life started it, but I didn't have it bad at all. For me it's a nervous habit, and most of the time I don't realize I'm doing it. I'll be sitting at the computer or watching tv, and by the time I'm done picking, I didn't realize I was doing it. But when I know I'm doing it, it feels really good. It feels like steam or pressure is coming out as soon as the follicle pops out.. if that makes sense? Its a real stress reliever.. until after I realize all my lashes are gone again. Then I get really depressed.. I know it's just eyelashes, so what, right? But it feels like more.. I feel so bad and sorry for myself that I can't control such a simple action. I can't stand having eyelashes though. It feels like needles in my skin sometimes. I feel like I'm at a point where I just give in because I can't stand having them.. and when I have grown them out somewhat there are still bald spots where they will never grow back.

One day when I am financially stable I hope to attend therapy and get some treatment for this. And when I can move out, that will help too. But until then I just try to live with it.


I think I am luckier than those who have it and pull out their hair or eyebrows and such, but it doesn't make it suck any less. I put eyeliner on where most people can't tell.. but some do. It makes me really self-conscious even though I know most people can't tell. But I don't want to have to put on eyeliner every day just to go out. I don't want to look like a cancer patient with no makeup on. I want to wear mascara and actually look decent in fake eyelashes. (They don't look good without eyelashes.) I just want to be normal and not have some weird nervous habit that no one's ever heard of.


If anyone asks about them, I just tell them I don't have any, or that I burned them off or some shit. I hate lying about it, but I don't want to admit that I have this. It's embarrassing to have such a stupid nervous habit, and it feels even more stupid that I get so down about it.


My parents don't understand at all. We don't have the financial means for me to enter therapy, but I don't think they would want me to do that anyway. They don't voice their opinions very much.. but when they do it seems like they would rather me keep on having this than me go to therapy. Makes me seem "crazy" or something to other people I guess. Parents.. awesome, right?

Long story short, it sucks, and I wanted to talk about it. So there.


I think being more open to feedback (even anonymously) would help me a lot.

(and sorry if this doesn't belong in gen. chat)

Edited by Katrinas, 21 April 2011 - 06:38 PM.

[luvsmyncis]

What.
Well.

Hmmm.

I mean...
What.

Okay.
I'm a pretty anxious person, and have found the best way to stop doing these weird things is to have someone point out that you're doing it when you're doing it. One of my terrible habits is I used to bite my nails all the time, sometimes so short that they'd bleed. Just peeling away at them with my teeth, for years and years in my childhood. Even if I had nail polish on. One day my mom walked by and slapped my hand out of my mouth and it was like a rude awakening. I didn't just quit right away. It took some time.

Make yourself more aware of your habit. If you're sitting there, and your hand goes up to your eye, learn to tell yourself, "NO." It's hard at first, but one day you'll bat your eyes and think "I used to pull out all my lashes? How weird of me."

[Kat]

What.
Well.

Hmmm.

I mean...
What.

Okay.
I'm a pretty anxious person, and have found the best way to stop doing these weird things is to have someone point out that you're doing it when you're doing it. One of my terrible habits is I used to bite my nails all the time, sometimes so short that they'd bleed. Just peeling away at them with my teeth, for years and years in my childhood. Even if I had nail polish on. One day my mom walked by and slapped my hand out of my mouth and it was like a rude awakening. I didn't just quit right away. It took some time.

Make yourself more aware of your habit. If you're sitting there, and your hand goes up to your eye, learn to tell yourself, "NO." It's hard at first, but one day you'll bat your eyes and think "I used to pull out all my lashes? How weird of me."

Thank you very much for posting.
I've thought this as well, and I think it will be much easier once I move in with my boyfriend. We've already talked about it and if he sees me he'll slap my hand away or something.
But in any case, I've been trying. It's hard to, especially since I seriously zone out and don't even realize it. I think that practice doing that will make perfect.. Thanks for the advice.

[danielfromburn]

Actually, there is a better way that I've chanced upon since a long time ago.

Whenever you have a habit you want to get rid of, "CONFRONT" it. Force yourself to do it. For your case perhaps it'd be like, instead of waiting for the 'need' to come up,  And KEEP doing that. In time to come you would begin to resent it and eventually get rid of the habit. It was scientifically proven, you could check it up on the net or something.

<br>but i guess its pretty obvious why it wouldn't be such a feasible idea for your scenario... <br><br>Hope this helps.

Edited by danielfromburn, 21 April 2011 - 07:49 PM.

[Kat]

Actually, there is a better way that I've chanced upon since a long time ago.

Whenever you have a habit you want to get rid of, "CONFRONT" it. Force yourself to do it. For your case perhaps it'd be like, instead of waiting for the 'need' to come up,&nbsp; And KEEP doing that. In time to come you would begin to resent it and eventually get rid of the habit. It was scientifically proven, you could check it up on the net or something.

Hope this helps.

Kind of hard to do when I don't have any eyelashes currently and only pluck when they grow in, but I see what you're saying.
I'm just already at the point when I do it as soon as I can anyway. I already resent the habit so doing anything else wouldn't really help.
But thank you for reading the thread.

[Pilot]

Wear a mask.

[Junsu]

Color your fingers and nails black, so you'll notice that and it'll remind you to not pick em
And change colors every so often until its gone.

Try to fix your habit by channeling everything into something else instead of picking your eyelashes.
I drink lots of water when I'm anxious o___o

[luvsmyncis]

...I seriously zone out and don't even realize it.

Exactly. By the time you think about it, you've lost all your lashes. But having someone there to constantly judge you and reprehend you makes it easier to stop.

I had to laugh because of your Luna Lovegood icon fits so well with your odd Trichotillomanianess. I honestly have never heard of people pulling out their lashes before. Out of curiosity, I've just now pulled out an eyelash and decided I don't like the feeling. *eyes tear up* Good lawd.

I drink lots of water when I'm anxious o___o

And then you wet the bed.

[Kat]

FUCK I typed out a whole thing and lost it.
I just wanted to say that I'm not really looking on suggestions on how to quit doing it, I've tried everything. For me it's more about figuring out the psychological reasons behind it, I think that just quitting would not help the stress and anxiety behind it, and I'd probably just get another nervous habit. I do appreciate it though, suggestions are still welcome but keep in mind I've had this for about 8-9 years and have tried lots of things, lol. This is more for me to practice talking about this and then hopefully move on to be able to talk about easier with family and friends, and eventually therapy. It's so big of a thing to me that I can't talk about it openly without crying. And I hate crying a loott.. Anyway. Hope that made sense.

I had to laugh because of your Luna Lovegood icon fits so well with your odd Trichotillomanianess. I honestly have never heard of people pulling out their lashes before. Out of curiosity, I've just now pulled out an eyelash and decided I don't like the feeling. *eyes tear up* Good lawd.

LOL, yeah I saw that too. Luna's my favorite.
Also, there's lots of youtube videos of people with this condition if anyone's curious about it. Interesting/Sad stuff.
And it does hurt but it's a good hurt.. I guess I have a little masochism in me as well, lol oh noes

[Brennon]

I tend to pull out my facial hair(no matter how little is there already. ) and not notice it. I also bite my nails.......a lot.

[Narcissa]

Have you ever considered looking into a psychiatrist that would do a sliding fee for you? Basically they'd charge you based on how severe your symptoms are and your finances, quite a few people do them nowadays. I'm presuming you have no health insurance what so ever? Most health insurance have some form of psychiatric care within their programs that should be included in even the most basic of plans, if you have one.

I really think that from what I've heard of Trochotillomania, it's extremely difficult to cure without some professional help as it is a very severe disorder that can greatly affect your life. If I recall correctly it's a form of OCD; which can be treated. I think because of your condition you're really likely to receive help from someone, somewhere and may enjoy having eyelashes in years to come. You've just got to be willing to put yourself out there for treatment instead of just sitting on the sidelines and wistfully waiting for a day to come that may very well not.

I've been biting my nails all my life down to the point of eating them to the quick and bleeding on a daily basis so I sort of understand where you're coming from. You should really seek help and I bet you could find some form of it within your financial means.

ETA: I just pulled out some of my own eyelashes and I really enjoyed the popping noise it made. Is that what you're talking about?

Edited by Khuce, 21 April 2011 - 10:58 PM.

[Trichomes]

I'm also a chronic nail biter. I've been biting my nails since before I can remember, and I'll do it pretty much whenever I'm nervous or bored. I've tried the special bitter nail polish and even wearing gloves, but I continued to bite anyway because, like you said, these "solutions" don't address the underlying psychological issues.

In addition to biting my nails, I have a pretty common skin condition called keratosis pilaris, more commonly referred to as chicken skin, which caused excess keratin to build up around my hair follicles. I only have it on my legs and a little on the backs of my arms, but it causes hard little bumps that I've always been self conscious about. A few years ago I began squeezing the bumps on my legs so that the little hairs would come to the surface. It doesn't necessarily feel good, but it gives me some sort of weird satisfaction. Not all of the bumps will "pop," though, so what I end up doing is giving myself big red welts in addition to the smaller bumps that I'm already concerned about. I do this whenever my legs are exposed, and won't stop until I start to feel queasy after realizing what I'm doing to myself or my boyfriend insists I stop.

Having my boyfriend around does also help with my nail biting somewhat, because he tells me to stop whenever he catches me with my fingers in my mouth, but he can't be with me 24/7, so I just do it anyway when he's not around.

My best advice for the time being is to try to be more aware of your actions and to start opening up to people. The more people know, the more they can help you. You don't have anything to be ashamed about. I understand that, financially, it may be difficult for you to seek therapy at the moment, but I strongly urge you to get some professional help sooner rather than later, or your condition may progress.

Edited by Trichomes, 22 April 2011 - 06:45 AM.

[Kat]

Have you ever considered looking into a psychiatrist that would do a sliding fee for you? Basically they'd charge you based on how severe your symptoms are and your finances, quite a few people do them nowadays. I'm presuming you have no health insurance what so ever? Most health insurance have some form of psychiatric care within their programs that should be included in even the most basic of plans, if you have one.

I really think that from what I've heard of Trochotillomania, it's extremely difficult to cure without some professional help as it is a very severe disorder that can greatly affect your life. If I recall correctly it's a form of OCD; which can be treated. I think because of your condition you're really likely to receive help from someone, somewhere and may enjoy having eyelashes in years to come. You've just got to be willing to put yourself out there for treatment instead of just sitting on the sidelines and wistfully waiting for a day to come that may very well not.

I've been biting my nails all my life down to the point of eating them to the quick and bleeding on a daily basis so I sort of understand where you're coming from. You should really seek help and I bet you could find some form of it within your financial means.

ETA: I just pulled out some of my own eyelashes and I really enjoyed the popping noise it made. Is that what you're talking about?

Yes, no health insurance whatsoever. I've looked around on the internets for psychiatrists that specialize in trich, and have search around for some that offer free services and they even have some caps I could attend for free, but they are all either in Cali or there are some in New York, which both are too far for me at the moment. I was thinking about trying to save up some money to make a trip, but I'd rather get some insurance and attend one more frequently down here instead of just one trip. I agree with out about not just waiting around though, which is what I'm trying got accomplish now. I've joined online groups and have searched for groups in nearby cities, nearest one being in Houston which is 2 hours away.
I'm going to get treatment, it's just a little difficult with school and work going on. But I'm getting there.

And yeah, that popping noise. Please nobody try to pull their eyelashes after reading this thread.. That kills me to think about, honestly. Even if you don't think you'll keep doing it. Just don't.

[Narcissa]

Yes, no health insurance whatsoever. I've looked around on the internets for psychiatrists that specialize in trich, and have search around for some that offer free services and they even have some caps I could attend for free, but they are all either in Cali or there are some in New York, which both are too far for me at the moment. I was thinking about trying to save up some money to make a trip, but I'd rather get some insurance and attend one more frequently down here instead of just one trip. I agree with out about not just waiting around though, which is what I'm trying got accomplish now. I've joined online groups and have searched for groups in nearby cities, nearest one being in Houston which is 2 hours away.
I'm going to get treatment, it's just a little difficult with school and work going on. But I'm getting there.

And yeah, that popping noise. Please nobody try to pull their eyelashes after reading this thread.. That kills me to think about, honestly. Even if you don't think you'll keep doing it. Just don't.

Well, I asked my gf about this last night as she'd have a better view on it as a psych major; she said the only way it will get better is if you see someone about the underlying psychosis that is causing it and reprogramming your behavior to help you stop. She suggested seeing a behavioral psychiatrist (not psychologists as they don't have a medical background and can't help get you drugs and etc should you need them.). ALWAYS make sure you ask what type of theories your psychiatrist follows (freudian, etc) as this will have big effect on how they'll treat you, and look into what type of psychological treatment you'd prefer. It's a big issue that if you don't believe the information they're telling you is legit as no amount of their help will actually help if you're resistant to treatment. She also said that if money is an issue, try and go to a counselor at school, through work, etc so that they can point you in a much better direction of someone who'd be willing to work with you for free or low costs as counslers have access to that kind of information. Also see if there is a free or low cost program within your local universities psych department; as many graduate students need to work with patients before getting their doctorates and it could be a really good option for you.

It's interesting that you posted this as I didn't even really realize that my nail biting is considered an obsessive behavioral behavior and seeing that nothing has worked for me about it I might go and see a behavioral psychatrist myself to maybe get some help as well so; thank you.

[Kat]

Well, I asked my gf about this last night as she'd have a better view on it as a psych major; she said the only way it will get better is if you see someone about the underlying psychosis that is causing it and reprogramming your behavior to help you stop. She suggested seeing a behavioral psychiatrist (not psychologists as they don't have a medical background and can't help get you drugs and etc should you need them.). ALWAYS make sure you ask what type of theories your psychiatrist follows (freudian, etc) as this will have big effect on how they'll treat you, and look into what type of psychological treatment you'd prefer. It's a big issue that if you don't believe the information they're telling you is legit as no amount of their help will actually help if you're resistant to treatment. She also said that if money is an issue, try and go to a counselor at school, through work, etc so that they can point you in a much better direction of someone who'd be willing to work with you for free or low costs as counslers have access to that kind of information. Also see if there is a free or low cost program within your local universities psych department; as many graduate students need to work with patients before getting their doctorates and it could be a really good option for you.

It's interesting that you posted this as I didn't even really realize that my nail biting is considered an obsessive behavioral behavior and seeing that nothing has worked for me about it I might go and see a behavioral psychatrist myself to maybe get some help as well so; thank you.

No, thank you, for letting me know that. I didn't even think about that even though a few of my friends are psyc majors. I'll ask them about that. (:

[AyoForYayo]

Oy. Well, not that I know /that/ much about trichotillomania but I've heard about it multiple times before.

I can't really offer any advice or anything other than to tell you that everyone has their shit, even if you don't notice or know about it.
I don't pull out eyelashes but I pick at my nails and the skin around them constantly and while I'm sleeping, I've been doing it for as long as I can remember and it's just a nervous habit and I can't stop.

You're not "crazy" at all, people just have weird habits and such.
Although, as someone who knows this from first-hand experiences, everything can be overcome as long as you actually...really fucking try.
I stopped picking at my nails for a few months a couple of years ago. It took a LOT of self control and I eventually caved in. If I wasn't such a pussy I would have been able to grow them out longgg and lovely. However, I had a fucking terrible time being addicted to cocaine, but after multiple fails I eventually kicked the habit. I learned to seriously control my drug-intake since then. It just takes self control and motivation and a lot, LOT of time being uncomfortable.

[Ladida]

I've been pulling out hair, mainly from my head , since I was about 13. I lose the most hair when I'm nervous about schoolwork, exams, or just bored and not even thinking about it. I never thought much about it until I ended up with a bald patch on my head.. Never thought that it's something that needed curing I've pulled hair from my eyebrows, but not my lashes.. I used to bite my nails until I got braces, and I was terrified of my teeth falling out. I really don't think anything is causing it, I mean, it's just like breathing, I just do it.. I don't even realise I'm doing it until my mom yells at me. It only began to bother me when it became obvious, but it's not bothering me enough to stop.

[Kat]

Oy. Well, not that I know /that/ much about trichotillomania but I've heard about it multiple times before.

I can't really offer any advice or anything other than to tell you that everyone has their shit, even if you don't notice or know about it.
I don't pull out eyelashes but I pick at my nails and the skin around them constantly and while I'm sleeping, I've been doing it for as long as I can remember and it's just a nervous habit and I can't stop.

You're not "crazy" at all, people just have weird habits and such.
Although, as someone who knows this from first-hand experiences, everything can be overcome as long as you actually...really fucking try.
I stopped picking at my nails for a few months a couple of years ago. It took a LOT of self control and I eventually caved in. If I wasn't such a pussy I would have been able to grow them out longgg and lovely. However, I had a fucking terrible time being addicted to cocaine, but after multiple fails I eventually kicked the habit. I learned to seriously control my drug-intake since then. It just takes self control and motivation and a lot, LOT of time being uncomfortable.

I guess so. I think like I've said before, that I had kind of gave up fighting it because it was impossible. Working on it now like I've said, but it's not one of those things I can just stop. Really fucking trying to stop isn't going to solve the problems behind it and the problems I've experienced because of it. I really hoped people wouldn't be like "just stop?" because that's not how it works.

I've been pulling out hair, mainly from my head , since I was about 13. I lose the most hair when I'm nervous about schoolwork, exams, or just bored and not even thinking about it. I never thought much about it until I ended up with a bald patch on my head.. Never thought that it's something that needed curing I've pulled hair from my eyebrows, but not my lashes.. I used to bite my nails until I got braces, and I was terrified of my teeth falling out. I really don't think anything is causing it, I mean, it's just like breathing, I just do it.. I don't even realise I'm doing it until my mom yells at me. It only began to bother me when it became obvious, but it's not bothering me enough to stop.

If you don't think that pulling out your hair enough to get bald spots is a problem then.. I don't know what to tell you. It's a nervous habit that can potentially get worse and its better to stop a problem like that before hand..

Edit: Also it's not a disease so no it doesn't needing "curing" but it is a disorder that needs attention called to it rather than ignoring it, which was my main problem.

For everyone else.. Onychophagia is the nail biting and Dermatillomania is skin picking. It can be just as detrimental as trich..
so if you think it's a problem, confront it like me. or see a behavioral therapist? It's kind of crazy to just ignore it and hope it goes away (like I did for nine years and it caused more psychological problems than just the fact that I don't have eyelashes)

Edited by Katrinas, 22 April 2011 - 01:30 PM.

[AyoForYayo]

I guess so. I think like I've said before, that I had kind of gave up fighting it because it was impossible. Working on it now like I've said, but it's not one of those things I can just stop. Really fucking trying to stop isn't going to solve the problems behind it and the problems I've experienced because of it. I really hoped people wouldn't be like "just stop?" because that's not how it works.

Actually, it is.
I didn't mean as basic as "just stopping" but if stopping is the only way to fix it. If you didn't then it wouldn't be fixed, right?

[Kat]

I guess so. I think like I've said before, that I had kind of gave up fighting it because it was impossible. Working on it now like I've said, but it's not one of those things I can just stop. Really fucking trying to stop isn't going to solve the problems behind it and the problems I've experienced because of it. I really hoped people wouldn't be like "just stop?" because that's not how it works.

Actually, it is.
I didn't mean as basic as "just stopping" but if stopping is the only way to fix it. If you didn't then it wouldn't be fixed, right?

I'm saying that that wouldn't solve the psychological problems behind it even if I did, and no it's not as easy as saying "just stop." I know what you mean by that, and I don't agree.
I've stopped doing drugs and smoking and I can tell you that it's not the same, and it's not comparable.

[Ladida]

If you don't think that pulling out your hair enough to get bald spots is a problem then.. I don't know what to tell you. It's a nervous habit that can potentially get worse and its better to stop a problem like that before hand..

I guess it is a problem, but since I can comb my hair over, it doesn't really smack me in the face. I also don't see myself in the mirror except in the morning and night, so it's probably not as obvious to me as it is to someone else. Maybe I'll stop when I graduate. Well, I'd better stop, before I look like this -> I'm not sure if a behavioral therapist would be able to help. When I was little, I used to bite my lips a lot, til my mom put something nasty tasting on them. I think it was oil. I probably need her to tape big oven mitts to prevent me from doing this, until I don't do it anymore

[AyoForYayo]

I'm saying that that wouldn't solve the psychological problems behind it even if I did, and no it's not as easy as saying "just stop." I know what you mean by that, and I don't agree.
I've stopped doing drugs and smoking and I can tell you that it's not the same, and it's not comparable.

Yeah? what drugs? Weed?

There are lots of "psychological problems" behind the reason people do drugs, it's not just the drug it's the person. Don't say shit isn't comparable.

Cognitive behavioral therapy would help you by the way, if you don't know what that is.
It helps treat OCD and its very effective.

[Kat]

I guess it is a problem, but since I can comb my hair over, it doesn't really smack me in the face. I also don't see myself in the mirror except in the morning and night, so it's probably not as obvious to me as it is to someone else. Maybe I'll stop when I graduate. Well, I'd better stop, before I look like this -> I'm not sure if a behavioral therapist would be able to help. When I was little, I used to bite my lips a lot, til my mom put something nasty tasting on them. I think it was oil. I probably need her to tape big oven mitts to prevent me from doing this, until I don't do it anymore

I think the only reason I don't pull out my hair anymore (I did for a few months in high school) is that someone seriously confronted me about it.. I was in math, and just running my hands through my hair (not actually tugging at the root and pulling it out) and some would fall on the floor. My the end of the period there would be a small pile of hair next to my desk. One day my teacher after class pulled me aside and asked me about it. I told her I just liked to run my fingers through my hair and it's really thick so hairs falling out aren't a big deal. She told me to stop or she would either send me to the school counselor or I would have to pick the pile up in front of everyone and throw it away. I was shocked, but I never did it again after. I'm still grateful to her even though I thought she was a huge bitch at first lol but it really made me stop and think.
Wish somebody would have confronted me about my eyelashes early on like that, maybe I would have stopped early. I mean people asked me about it, but it was never like "stop or I'll embarrass you badly about it" or something.
A girl I know that has it kind of like you, not bad enough to pick out all of her hair just spots here and there, she puts up here hair a lot, especially when she knows she's going to be stressed or absentminded in class or something similar. She also wears cute headpieces so she doesn't touch her hair and mess it up (like a headband, bow, etc)

But if you don't think it's a problem then who cares what anyone else thinks.. Like I had super thick hair, so it would take a lot more than the picking that I did to get a bald spot. But idk. I'd just hate for anyone's problem to get as bad as mine is.

Yeah? what drugs? Weed?

There are lots of "psychological problems" behind the reason people do drugs, it's not just the drug it's the person. Don't say shit isn't comparable.

Cognitive behavioral therapy would help you by the way, if you don't know what that is.
It helps treat OCD and its very effective.

Weed and some other things, I just don't want to talk about them openly like some do.. all the time..

I'm saying for me it's not comparable, for me it's different.. I don't know about other people. I said that I've done those things and it wasn't the same quitting as it is trying to quit this.
My personal opinion and stand..
This is exactly why this shit is done with, because it makes it seem like I'm just a weak and sub par individual when that's not the case. I've overcome everything else except for this.

And yeah, I know what that is.. If you read the thread, you'd know that I've been looking into therapy and will do it once I can.

[AyoForYayo]

I think the only reason I don't pull out my hair anymore (I did for a few months in high school) is that someone seriously confronted me about it.. I was in math, and just running my hands through my hair (not actually tugging at the root and pulling it out) and some would fall on the floor. My the end of the period there would be a small pile of hair next to my desk. One day my teacher after class pulled me aside and asked me about it. I told her I just liked to run my fingers through my hair and it's really thick so hairs falling out aren't a big deal. She told me to stop or she would either send me to the school counselor or I would have to pick the pile up in front of everyone and throw it away. I was shocked, but I never did it again after. I'm still grateful to her even though I thought she was a huge bitch at first lol but it really made me stop and think.
Wish somebody would have confronted me about my eyelashes early on like that, maybe I would have stopped early. I mean people asked me about it, but it was never like "stop or I'll embarrass you badly about it" or something.
A girl I know that has it kind of like you, not bad enough to pick out all of her hair just spots here and there, she puts up here hair a lot, especially when she knows she's going to be stressed or absentminded in class or something similar. She also wears cute headpieces so she doesn't touch her hair and mess it up (like a headband, bow, etc)

But if you don't think it's a problem then who cares what anyone else thinks.. Like I had super thick hair, so it would take a lot more than the picking that I did to get a bald spot. But idk. I'd just hate for anyone's problem to get as bad as mine is.



Weed and some other things, I just don't want to talk about them openly like some do.. all the time..

I'm saying for me it's not comparable, for me it's different.. I don't know about other people. I said that I've done those things and it wasn't the same quitting as it is trying to quit this.
My personal opinion and stand..
This is exactly why this shit is done with, because it makes it seem like I'm just a weak and sub par individual when that's not the case. I've overcome everything else except for this.

And yeah, I know what that is.. If you read the thread, you'd know that I've been looking into therapy and will do it once I can.

/ I did read the thread

I read you were looking into therapy.
That just happens to be a SPECIFIC. type. That would be very helpful to you.
Your welcome.

Hey wow. I talk about them all the time no.
This shit affects your life and shit 24/7 no?

Wow
I wonder

Edited by AyoForYayo, 22 April 2011 - 02:05 PM.

[Kat]

/ I did read the thread

I read you were looking into therapy.
That just happens to be a SPECIFIC. type. That would be very helpful to you.
Your welcome.

Hey wow. I talk about them all the time no.
This shit affects your life and shit 24/7 no?

Wow
I wonder

I meant to post this earlier, but I think you misinterpreted me when I said they are "not comparable." I did not mean that is in "oh gosh this is so much more hardcore than drugs, my plight and suffering is just not comparable" but no, I meant that as in, having been down both roads, My separate paths of quitting have been very different, thus I do not compare the two, and I think that's where the hostility came from. By no means was I undermining a struggle to quit drugs. And I apologize for misunderstanding your last post