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#26 Elle

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:05 PM

How is it immoral? Do you think adoption is immoral? What about couples who use a surrogate to carry their genetic child? I don't know how you could draw a line at sperm/egg donation and not include both of those things too.


Just to clarify, im pretty sure that when he referred to it as immoral, he meant the idea of blowing your load soley for some quick cash, without really understanding what is involved. If we're going to liken it to adoption and surrogacy; in the process of adopting your child out, would you ask for some quick cash? And how would you determine how much your child is worth? An extra thousand if they happen to come out with blonde hair?

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    #27 Maloo

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    Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:13 PM

    Just to clarify, im pretty sure that when he referred to it as immoral, he meant the idea of blowing your load soley for some quick cash, without really understanding what is involved. If we're going to liken it to adoption and surrogacy; in the process of adopting your child out, would you ask for some quick cash? And how would you determine how much your child is worth? An extra thousand if they happen to come out with blonde hair?



    I'll just make Narcissa's words mine:

    Also, they are NOT paying you for the egg or sperm. It's illegal to sell any bodily fluids or body parts to anyone. Even including plasma and blood. They're paying you for your time and effort which they very clearly state up from the moment you walk in.


    You are NOT selling your egg!

    #28 Elle

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    Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:27 PM

    I'll just make Narcissa's words mine:



    You are NOT selling your egg!


    TECHNICALLY you are not selling your egg/ sperm. That doesnt change the fact that people still view this as a quick way to make money.

    #29 MeWantCookies

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    Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:49 PM

    Just to clarify, im pretty sure that when he referred to it as immoral, he meant the idea of blowing your load soley for some quick cash, without really understanding what is involved. If we're going to liken it to adoption and surrogacy; in the process of adopting your child out, would you ask for some quick cash? And how would you determine how much your child is worth? An extra thousand if they happen to come out with blonde hair?


    Actually, if you look back at the post I was responding to, he said "I personally would never bother with it as i find it immoral (imo) and totally defeats the purpose of enjoying a family of your own." (emphasis added).

    He thinks it's immoral to not raise your own family, not to get cash in exchange for his donation. In that sense, it is absolutely similar to adoption and surrogacy. In both cases, you are birthing or raising a child that you did not genetically create.

    If his complaint was with the exchange of money for a body parts, that's a different story. Historically, all countries have made it illegal to sell any part of the body (including for sex), but those laws are slowly being replaced. Prostitution is permitted in several countries, the sale of blood is permitted almost everywhere in the U.S., and the sale of dead bodies and body parts is permitted as long as the use is medical in nature. Several years ago, Egypt was having serious problems with a black market for vital organs, and the lawmakers seriously started to consider legalizing the sale of those organs so that it could be standardized.

    Most of the laws on the books prohibiting the sale of body parts come from christianity, judaism and islam. As society moves away from religious values, so too will the restrictions on the sale of body parts.

    #30 Joanna

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    Posted 06 July 2011 - 05:15 PM

    Actually, if you look back at the post I was responding to, he said "I personally would never bother with it as i find it immoral (imo) and totally defeats the purpose of enjoying a family of your own." (emphasis added).

    He thinks it's immoral to not raise your own family, not to get cash in exchange for his donation. In that sense, it is absolutely similar to adoption and surrogacy. In both cases, you are birthing or raising a child that you did not genetically create.

    If his complaint was with the exchange of money for a body parts, that's a different story. Historically, all countries have made it illegal to sell any part of the body (including for sex), but those laws are slowly being replaced. Prostitution is permitted in several countries, the sale of blood is permitted almost everywhere in the U.S., and the sale of dead bodies and body parts is permitted as long as the use is medical in nature. Several years ago, Egypt was having serious problems with a black market for vital organs, and the lawmakers seriously started to consider legalizing the sale of those organs so that it could be standardized.

    Most of the laws on the books prohibiting the sale of body parts come from christianity, judaism and islam. As society moves away from religious values, so too will the restrictions on the sale of body parts.


    I really think that we should wait for him to answer the question. I asked him earlier, and when aussie time comes around we will find out. It is really unclear from his post.

    #31 Strategist

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    Posted 06 July 2011 - 11:38 PM

    Ok time for an explanation that i really shouldnt have to add but i will.

    If his complaint was with the exchange of money for a body parts, that's a different story.


    ^^ this is what i meant. Elle summed it up well in her reply too.

    I meant by immoral, it goes against my own morals. I dont care what anyone else does with their sperm/eggs as im not them. I would not for one second even think to do it for 'quick cash'. I have no problem with people doing it to help others in the long run but to do it solely for some 'quick cash' is to me, a bit selfish. I too believe, that, adoption and surrogacy are totally different from 'donating sperm/eggs for cash' as they both, like i said above, come into the category of being able to use this opportunity to raise a family of your own. Im all for this option but NOT for the sole purpose of getting paid.....

    So kindly quit attacking me before getting an explanation please, as i find it rather rude to come to assumptions based off what you misinterpreted earlier.

    #32 luvsmyncis

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    Posted 07 July 2011 - 07:29 AM

    You are such a bad man, Strat. People would pay top dollar for your sperm. By not spreading your handsome seed, you are doing an injustice to society. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    #33 LemonSundae

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    Posted 07 July 2011 - 11:25 PM

    Depends if you are going to accidentally date your children one day... just saying

    #34 Strategist

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    Posted 07 July 2011 - 11:49 PM

    You are such a bad man, Strat. People would pay top dollar for your sperm. By not spreading your handsome seed, you are doing an injustice to society. You should be ashamed of yourself.


    U jelly? XD

    but in all seriousness.... my wife is the only one who will ever receive my 'handsome seed', hence why we have such a charming and intelligent young son :) We hope to add another soon enough

    #35 zandra

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    Posted 07 July 2011 - 11:59 PM

    i have heard of many people donating their eggs and its a rather tiring procedure, it is similar to ivf if i am right

    #36 lonewolf

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 12:40 AM

    Theres no catch in donating sperm. It may just seem immoral to some people. I wholly believe in it and yes, you can call it easy cash

    #37 Narcissa

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 01:26 AM

    Depends if you are going to accidentally date your children one day... just saying


    If you're dumb enough to date people 18 years younger than yourself, you deserve that slap in the face of reality when you find out they're your genetic makeup. Just sayin.


    i have heard of many people donating their eggs and its a rather tiring procedure, it is similar to ivf if i am right


    It IS tiring. Lot of effort goes into it on the donors end. Similar to IVF in the fact that you're being given hormones, the donor to produce eggs like crazy, whereareas the carrier of the egg is receiving hormones to fool their body into thinking they can carry an egg; for most cases.

    Edited by Narcissa, 08 July 2011 - 08:28 PM.


    #38 MeWantCookies

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    Posted 08 July 2011 - 03:43 PM

    So kindly quit attacking me before getting an explanation please, as i find it rather rude to come to assumptions based off what you misinterpreted earlier.


    Was this directed at me? My goal was not to attack you. I'm sorry if you took it that way, but that isn't how it was intended. You said you thought egg/sperm donation was immoral because it defeated your ability to enjoy your own family. In my opinion, that can only be interpreted one way: it is immoral to create a child that you won't raise. You obviously meant something other than what you said: that it is immoral to involve yourself in reproducing in exchange for money.


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