Of course, I am the ever skeptic, so I look up the price on JellyNeo and the item database here to find that the "Cloud Charm" is actually worth ~25k. So really, this guy is just trying to scam me.
What are some of your scam stories?
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:50 PM
Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:57 PM
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:01 PM
Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:08 PM
Someone offering an item for yours which is worth less isn't a scam. It's only a scam if they say "Hey this item is worth 10 Mil! Accept now since this is a one item offer!" Then you check the SW and see it there for 50K.
Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:10 PM
Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:12 PM
Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:14 PM
I don't think you understand what is going on.
Item is worth 25k.
1 person or a group of people buy them all up and put it on the TP and price them as 2.5m.
They overbid on lots worth less and hope the person checks the price on the TP.
They check the price and see that all the Cloud Charms have a 2.5m asking price and thinks it's worth 2.5m.
Their greed overcomes them and they accept a worthless item.
*They are smart enough to use a worthless but r99 item so it rarely stocks.
Doing this is freezable, btw.
Also
http://www.neopets.c...topic=147937822
Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:19 PM
Someone offering an item for yours which is worth less isn't a scam. It's only a scam if they say "Hey this item is worth 10 Mil! Accept now since this is a one item offer!" Then you check the SW and see it there for 50K.
Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:23 PM
what if the prices doesn't comes down, or just a little.
still not a scam
if they own the entire supply of that item, it is now "worth" whatever price they set. this is how monopolies work.
I'm pretty sure that would fall more under False Inflation rather than scamming.
Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:37 PM
Monopolies work because they hold a key resource that is in high demand. This is neither.
Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:10 PM
The thing is that if someone has a monopoly on something that no one wants then, well, they have a worthless monopoly.demand or intrinsic value of the resource is irrelevant.
Posted 15 July 2011 - 12:29 AM
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:01 PM
still not a scam
if they own the entire supply of that item, it is now "worth" whatever price they set. this is how monopolies work.
Posted 16 July 2011 - 04:59 PM
Edited by moopie, 16 July 2011 - 05:02 PM.
Posted 16 July 2011 - 05:09 PM
Wow. Nice clarification! What TNT said is exactly how I feel about this situation. It may seem a little bit like inflation, but it really is just a scam.Hi TNT, I have a question about inflating. Let's say that someone (just one person) bought all of an item off the Wiz and put them on the TP for more than unbuyable. Would that be okay? I know it's not if it's multiple people, but what about a single person? Thanks. ~a1m
We have said before that anyone is free to buy any quantity of an item, as long as they in no way encourage (or "hint") to others that they should help to inflate the item. While this still holds true, please tread carefully when purposefully inflating items. Are you sick of hearing about "intention" yet? Too bad! ;D Before you buy up lots of items, consider your intention. Are you simply investing, or is your mind following a more sinister course? One thing that would throw you out of any grey area into downright scamming is this scenario: You buy up all of one item and begin to sell them via the Trading Post, getting offers for more than what you paid. You're still okay at this point because you are in no way misrepresenting the item, and demand will dictate the final sale price. While we hardly encourage it, it does fall within our rules. Now say you put several of them on the Trading Post for 500k (even though no one is buying at that price) and then offer one of them for trade on a paint brush that is worth 500k. The seller of that item sees your others on the post and assumes they really are worth 500k and accepts your offer... you have officially become a scammer. There is a line (fine as it may be) between inflation for investment and inflation for the purpose of scamming. Please don't cross it.
From editorial #306
So in short, it is a scam. You should report him. (:
Posted 16 July 2011 - 05:34 PM
Getting people to sell their items for worthless items seems like a scam to me. They may be able to set the price at 3m, but until someone buys at that price, 3m is not how much the item is worth.
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:26 PM
I put worth in quotation marks because it is a poor word choice as it implies some sort of intrinsic value. In a market "worth" never comes into play, price is all that matters.
When you have the power to set price in a market, if someone wants to buy they buy at your price, regardless of the "worth".
if TNT were to intervene by freezing that person, they would be effectively removing the supply of the item from the game, which causes more damage than allowing the monopoly
Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:56 PM
Posted 17 July 2011 - 03:21 AM
LOL @ a website full of cheaters that want people frozen because they are cleverly manipulating the system to their benefit
Not the sellers fault that people are dumb enough to accept
Posted 17 July 2011 - 12:33 PM
LOL @ a website full of cheaters that want people frozen because they are cleverly manipulating the system to their benefit
Not the sellers fault that people are dumb enough to accept
Posted 17 July 2011 - 12:39 PM
I put worth in quotation marks because it is a poor word choice as it implies some sort of intrinsic value. In a market "worth" never comes into play, price is all that matters.
When you have the power to set price in a market, if someone wants to buy they buy at your price, regardless of the "worth".
if TNT were to intervene by freezing that person, they would be effectively removing the supply of the item from the game, which causes more damage than allowing the monopoly
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